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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 09:49 PM
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Do you want to get rid of Lieberman? Here is how.
Democratic Senators are going to caucus next Tuesday. Lieberman will be the major topic. Obama's suggestion on keeping Lieberman in the caucus notwithstanding, it doesn't follow that Lieberman keep his chair of the Homeland Security Committee.

Our task is to contact our Democratic Senators and ask them that, regardless of their vote on Lieberman remaining in the caucus, it is imperative that he be stripped of the chair of Homeland Security Committee.

Two reasons:

Lieberman Lends His Name To Fear-Mongering Documentary On American Muslims And Terrorism
By Justin Elliott - November 10, 2008, 4:56PM


Joe Lieberman, who is locked in a fight to hold onto his Senate Homeland Security Committee chairmanship, is lending his name to a lurid sequel of the documentary Obsession: Radical Islam's War Against The West. That film, which was distributed through newspaper inserts and mass mailings to 28 million swing-state households during the campaign, was denounced by religious leaders for painting all Muslims with the same broad brush and for its cartoonish portrayal of Islamic terrorism.

The new documentary, called The Third Jihad: Radical Islam's Vision For America, focuses on the "hidden war against the freedom and values we all take for granted" being waged by radical Islamists trying to take down America from within. Among other things, the film warns of the "subtle dangers of non-violent cultural jihad and its influence in America's universities."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x7843936

And this:

Remove Lieberman from all Domestic Security and National Security Roles

Steve Clemons


Joe Lieberman wants to keep his status and committees and caucus with the Democrats. He has been a fear-monger and someone who has promoted a dangerous, reckless false choice between American relations with Israel and other parts of the Middle East. He is a devout neoconservative who has been a key enabler of many of the most nefarious groups that promoted the Iraq War and who want a series of new wars in the region.

But more than that, he strongly supported someone a heartbeat away from the presidency who knew virtually nothing about America's place in the world, who knew nothing of American history and its leaders and conventions and founders.

Lieberman is dangerous on so many levels -- and he has not apologized for any of his positions or offered any explanation that should make Americans feel comfortable with this Senator in the next four years as Chairman of the Committee on Homeland Security.

If Dems would like to keep Joe Lieberman in the caucus, give him responsibility for education policy, telecom policy, health care -- but the price for the Dems keeping this fearmonger is that he be removed from any position with key responsibility for national security or domestic security matters.

It is useful to refresh the memory of what Joe Lieberman said about Sarah Palin, on stage with her, and what he remained on stage listening to as Sarah Palin talked about "Barack Obama's terrorist friends. . ."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/steve-clemons/remove-lieberman-from-all_b_142447.html
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 09:51 PM
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1. I am writing to Schumer and Clinto immediately. I know that Schumer is not supportive of LIEberman.
Not so sure about Clinton, since her husband is pleading his case...
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 09:53 PM
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3. I am writing to Evan Bayh who is supporting Lieberman
That's why I am saying that keeping the chairmanship and staying in the caucus are two separate issues.
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mediaman007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 09:52 PM
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2. Make him the ambassador to Israel. Open seat: Ned Lamont
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DeepBlueC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 09:55 PM
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6. CT has a Republican governor
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crikkett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 10:01 PM
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7. Check and Mate.
Edited on Mon Nov-10-08 10:01 PM by crikkett
Very smart!

On edit: except for the Republican Governor part. Bummer.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 10:06 PM
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9. And have him sabotage the hope for a peace deal?
I trust Lieberman as much as I trust Hamas.
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Duppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 10:18 PM
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10. my thoughts too. nt
.
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tomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 01:12 AM
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19. my thoughts, too.
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tomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 01:13 AM
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20. he's going to vote how the fuck he wants, anyway.
get him out of power, he is the enemy.
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moodforaday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 08:40 AM
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24. Well, at least Hamas
are not traitors to their own people.
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 08:24 PM
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30. Anywhere but Israel.
Hell no, don't make him Ambassador to Israel. Hell no. That, IMO, would be a damned nightmare for this country, and the world.
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Truth2Tell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 09:54 PM
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4. Recommended for the two best reasons I've heard.
And I will forward these exact reasons to Murray and Cantwell. Particularly the video. I really can't f'n believe that one.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 09:55 PM
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5. Joe the Lieberman is not one of ours anymore!
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 10:04 PM
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8. Here is the text of message I just sent to Evan Bayh
You and the other Democratic Senators are going to caucus next Tuesday. Lieberman will be the major topic. Obama's suggestion on keeping Lieberman in the caucus notwithstanding, it doesn't follow that Lieberman keep his chair of the Homeland Security Committee.

I don't care whether you vote to keep Lieberman in the Democratic Caucus or not. I do care about Lieberman retaining his Chair of the Homeland Security Committee.

Two reasons:

Lieberman Lends His Name To Fear-Mongering Documentary On American Muslims And Terrorism
By Justin Elliott - November 10, 2008, 4:56PM

Joe Lieberman, who is locked in a fight to hold onto his Senate Homeland Security Committee chairmanship, is lending his name to a lurid sequel of the documentary Obsession: Radical Islam's War Against The West. That film, which was distributed through newspaper inserts and mass mailings to 28 million swing-state households during the campaign, was denounced by religious leaders for painting all Muslims with the same broad brush and for its cartoonish portrayal of Islamic terrorism.

The new documentary, called The Third Jihad: Radical Islam's Vision For America, focuses on the "hidden war against the freedom and values we all take for granted" being waged by radical Islamists trying to take down America from within. Among other things, the film warns of the "subtle dangers of non-violent cultural jihad and its influence in America's universities."

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/11/lieberman.php

And this one:

Remove Lieberman from all Domestic Security and National Security Roles

Steve Clemons

Joe Lieberman wants to keep his status and committees and caucus with the Democrats. He has been a fear-monger and someone who has promoted a dangerous, reckless false choice between American relations with Israel and other parts of the Middle East. He is a devout neoconservative who has been a key enabler of many of the most nefarious groups that promoted the Iraq War and who want a series of new wars in the region.

But more than that, he strongly supported someone a heartbeat away from the presidency who knew virtually nothing about America's place in the world, who knew nothing of American history and its leaders and conventions and founders.

Lieberman is dangerous on so many levels -- and he has not apologized for any of his positions or offered any explanation that should make Americans feel comfortable with this Senator in the next four years as Chairman of the Committee on Homeland Security.

If Dems would like to keep Joe Lieberman in the caucus, give him responsibility for education policy, telecom policy, health care -- but the price for the Dems keeping this fearmonger is that he be removed from any position with key responsibility for national security or domestic security matters.

It is useful to refresh the memory of what Joe Lieberman said about Sarah Palin, on stage with her, and what he remained on stage listening to as Sarah Palin talked about "Barack Obama's terrorist friends. . ."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/steve-clemons/remove-lieberman-from-all_b_142447.html

I beg of you Senator Bayh, that you join Senator Schumer and strip Lieberman of his chairmanship of Homeland Security. Lieberman is a threat to our civil liberties and a potential threat to the incoming Obama Administration.

Thank you for your consideration.

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Duppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 10:19 PM
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11. ....
:thumbsup:

'Ya done good.' Thanks.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 10:20 PM
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12. Excellent.
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 10:47 PM
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13. The Republics became Lieberman's party when he campaigned for McSame.
Lieberman's party of choice is no longer in power, so why does this fair-weather "independent" think that he merits any chairmanships?

Lieberman didn't agree with Obama -- or the Democratic Party -- on their policies, so how could Obama or the Democratic Party expect this disloyal critic of the Democratic Party to be an effective, credible Democratic leader of any important committee?

As a wise Senator said after the 2006 election, elections have consequences. No more shirking responsibility; Lieberman gets no chairmanships because he didn't earn that right.
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 11:51 PM
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14. that makes a nice letter to send
mind if i (or others) borrow it?

dp
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 12:05 AM
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16. By all means, feel free to do so.
:toast:
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cornelio Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 11:52 PM
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15. Judas must go
Let's pay him millions to go. Go anywhere. to China, Aruba. Anywhere but in the Democratic Party. Traitor.
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kaygore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 12:14 AM
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17. Write Obama
Clinton, too.

We worked hard for Obama's election. Lieberman must go.
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 12:23 AM
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18. "obama want's Lieberman to remain in Democratic Caucus"
looks like Obama already made up his mind according to Huffington Post.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/10/obama-wants-lieberman-to_n_142731.html
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 01:32 AM
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22. The caucus and the chair of Homeland Security are two separate issues
I say that because Bill Clinton is making phone calls on behalf of Lieberman (can't this guy just take a long vacation?), and my senator Evan Bayh is reported to oppose kicking Lieberman out of the caucus.
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kaygore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 01:41 AM
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23. He just said he would listen to us but guess he meant LISTEN,
not act on what he heard from those who elected him.

I was kind of hoping that finally people would be held accountable.
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Morning Dew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 01:19 AM
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21. I just emailed Amy Klobuchar
Joe must be taken out of the Homeland Security chairmanship.


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Chemical Bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 09:20 AM
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25. Thanks for the heads up.
My senators got an earful from me.

Bill
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rudy23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 10:21 AM
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26. Have we all forgotten that Joe scuttled Katrina investigations after promising them if elected?
I haven't seen this discussed anywhere.
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 10:27 AM
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27. K&R n/t
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 12:01 PM
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28. Another kick because TPM is reporting that Lieberman will keep his chair
Contact your Democratic senators at once! Lieberman will sabotage Obama's efforts for peace in the Middle East!
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 06:24 PM
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29. Democratic senators---oh, if only I had any! I hoped to get rid of Mitch, but didn't.
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guruoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 10:51 PM
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31. The man can't be trusted, period. End of story. n/t.
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