Anyone else feel this way: That Washington Dems don't really care about a Franken win...

[HardWorkingDem]

From the coverage and actions of Washington Democratic politicians, I sort of get a feeling that they don't really take a "Senator Franken" seriously. It seems like they see his race as a sort of frige or odd ball type thing and don't even really care if he wins or loses.

Anyone else feel this way?

[hlthe2b]

1. I worry about it.... he's an outsider and the club does not support

outsiders gladly. Hopefully their own self-benefit from a Franken win will move them to help.

[senseandsensibility]

2. I don't know. I haven't heard any Washington Dems talk about

it since I watch very little televsion. Matthews and Olbermann seem to take it seriously. Who exactly are you talking about?

[HardWorkingDem]

4. All of the establishment dems...

I'm mainly referring to what would be his fellow politicians. The lack of comment from them seems loud and clear. It's almost like they feel jealous or something that the media would focus on him and steal their limelight or something.

[TexasObserver]

14. That's a ridiculous suggestion. And it's not true.

Project much? You're seeing ghosts that aren't there. You're afraid of an apparition that exists only in your head. There's no story beyond the story that has been faithfully carried: it's a close race with some bantering going on, but all know it's going to be a while before a recount is done and decides the race. Al Franken has said so.

The real question is: Why in the world would you attack "Washington Democrats" for not satisfying your need for more response on their part? It is your expectation that is askew.

[HardWorkingDem]

22. God, have you even been paying attention to the Obama campaign?

Wow. First you hurl insults and second you seem to be completely oblivious to what Obama ran his entire campaign against - Washington politics. There is such an animal.

And if you don't think some Washington politicians treat other colleagues differently, I suggest you contact actor Mike Myers and borrow his Austin Powers wayback machine so you can go back in time to help you remember how the other Democratic politicians treated Dennis Kucinich during the presidential campaign.

Washington Dems are treating Al Franken similarly to how they did Kucinich. Hell, these people are even treating Joe Lieberman better.

[HardWorkingDem]

23. TO, here's another thread about the type of beast you claim does not exist....

give this a try...since you think I'm so full of shit...



http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x7882350

[cherokeeprogressive]

17. Maybe they shouldn't embroil themselves in a race they have no say in.

Probably a good thing to have them stay neutral, since the rethugs are gonna scream about some kind of fraud should they lose. Come to think of it, I bet we do too.

[GrantDem]

3. Not sure...

I seen an email from Hillary asking for donations for Franken. Feingold as well.

[John Q. Citizen]

5. Nope. I did like Franken's primary opponent better, but we neeed another Dem seat for sure,

and Franken ought to be very good on some issues.

[azurnoir]

6. There is really little they can do

the recount is in the hands of the state and perhaps at this point the less said by other Dems the better, the repukes are in hysteria mode and making wild charges of fraud by MN election officials. In MN the SoS is elected and MN has a truly puke governor and a Dem SoS.

[mduffy31]

9. Yes but the SOS of Minnesota is a Democrat

that replaced a Katherine Harris type Republican in 2006

[azurnoir]

19. I pointed that out

BTW Mark Ritchie replaced Nancy Kiffmeyer of "how to spot a terrorist" poster and there was "never ever separation of church and state" fame

[opihimoimoi]

7. Didn't HILL go up there to help?? I believe Hillary went up there a week b 4 the vote

[rucky]

8. Because Norm Coleman's such a gem.

:eyes:

[RC]

15. Isn't that spelled 'germ'? Or am I thinking of something different?

[TexasObserver]

10. Good Lord! That's ridiculous. WTF is a "Washington Dem" supposed to be?!

Those "Washington Dems" you refer to are all from places like Minnesota, places NOT Washington, DC. Calling them "Washington Dems," as if they are some group of alien Democrats, is something the GOP does.

Everyone in Washington wants every seat in both Houses of congress, and they certainly want Franken to win. But we all know that it will be weeks before a recount is over. There's no reason to get excited. It's going to take a while. Al has said as much, himself.

Why are you filled with vicarious outrage about something that isn't true and isn't something one would expect to hear from a Democrat?

[HardWorkingDem]

21. Washington Dem - Sen, Reps and any Washington insider...

To better understand my point, contrast the amount of media coverage and politician attention that is being focused on the Sen races in Alaska and Georgia.

To me, it almost seems as if the "mainstream" Dems sort of see Franken as not a real politician or something


And where did I show any outrage? It's just an observation. There seems to be a lack of attention by his possible colleagues. And if you don't think Washington politicians don't look down their noses at others not like them, then you are pretty naive.

[NashVegas]

11. My Perception of Franken

Great partisan. Passionate about politics and country.

But I'm not 100% positive he's into actual governing.

[Seda]

12. I love Al to take the seat

and shake up the system! I don't think he'd have any qualms telling Senators like Lieberman where to go and who to take with him.

[Ian David]

13. Obviously, he's no Fred Thompson, Sonny Bono or Gopher from The Love Boat. n/t

[shifting_sands]

16. There isn't a race

There is a recount underway, not a run-off. The Dems have sent money and attorneys to watch the recount and make sure all is in place. In the Chambless/Martin situation there is an actual voting run-off situation. The Dems are doing for Minnesota what they are doing for Alaska, sending money and attorneys for the recount. More ads, more speeches aren't going to help Alaska or Minnesota one way or the other and the state of Minnesota is the best in the country on voting laws and making sure all votes are fairly counted.

[Catherine Vincent]

18. I sort of feel that way.

If he wins and I see him on the tv, I'd want him to perform and make me laugh.

[wellstone dem]

20. Hillary was here at least twice, Bill was here within a week before

the election.

The Secretary of State is an amazing man, absolutely committed to election integrity. He won't bend the rules for Franken, but he sure as hell won't get run over or pushed by Coleman.

Franken had more than 400 people at his training to be recount observers. He also has a team of lawyers.

I don't know what else people, Washington Dems, or others can do to support him other than give $$$

www.alfranken.com