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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 09:03 PM
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Poll question: POLL: Who Benefits From the Mumbai Attacks?
Who do YOU think the beneficiary, if any, is? And, why?
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 09:05 PM
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1. Good question.
I have been following it with real interest, but still do not think that I know enough to venture an opinion.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 09:08 PM
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3. Same here.
As of yet, the water is so muddy, I don't see any group with an upside. But, the closest I can get to making sense is that whoever did it, wants India and Pakistan to be at war. I can't quite understand who would want that.

Maybe a group who thinks they can use an Indian/Pakistan war as an opportunity to advance their agenda. But.....?
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 09:08 PM
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2. Certainly not Pakistan..
Edited on Thu Dec-04-08 09:12 PM by stillcool47
and they've been taking a lot of heat long before this latest bang-up. I wonder why we are hearing so much about this, yet we heard nothing about this....

South Asia
Nov 22, 2008
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/JK22Df03.html
Faith in India's army shaken by blasts
By Sudha Ramachandran

BANGALORE
- Investigations into recent bomb blasts in India have led to the arrest of several Hindus and for the first time ever, a serving officer of the Indian army.

The arrests have triggered heated debate on whether the arrests indicate the existence of "Hindu terrorism". More worryingly, the probes point to the possibility of the hitherto secular and apolitical Indian army being infected by the communal virus.


Six people were killed and over 80 injured in blasts on September 29 in the Muslim-dominated town of Malegaon, about 260 kilometers from Mumbai. A few hours later, a bomb went off near a mosque in Modasa town in Gujarat, where Muslims were offering special Ramadan prayers, killing two people.

Investigations have led to the arrest of about 10 people, including Ajay Rahirkar, Sameer Kulkarni, Rakesh Dhawade (all members of the Hindu extremist organization, the Abhinav Bharat), Dayanand Pandey (a self-styled Hindu "guru") Sadhvi Pragya Singh Thakur (an "ascetic" who is a member of the Durga Vahini - the women's wing of the Vishva Hindu Parishad - and the Akhil Bharatiya Vidyarthi Parishad - the students' wing of the Bharatiya Janata Party - BJP).
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But even as Indians are heatedly debating whether "Hindu terrorism" exists, another worrying issue has been thrown up by the investigations. Three men arrested in connection with the Malegaon blasts are from the armed forces. They include one serving officer, Lieutenant Colonel Prasad Shrikant Purohit, and two retired officers, Major Ramesh Upadhyay and Colonel Shailesh Raikar.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 09:10 PM
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4. As far as I can reason, Pakistan would be the last to want this.
It is nothing but bad for them, especially with their new and fragile government.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 09:16 PM
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5. If no one benefits, is it terrorism, or just a horrendous mass murder?
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 09:18 PM
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6. If Pakistan and India were to normalize relations for a bit then the pakistani soldiers
could move from the Eastern border with india to the tribal region where al Qaeda is hiding.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 09:20 PM
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7. That seems to be getting farther away, unfortunately.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 09:31 PM
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Yes and that is how Al Qaeda benefits from these attacks on India.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 09:23 PM
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8. al Quaeda; Pakistani Islamic radicals; Islamic radicals of all stripes;
al Qaeda's sponsors, the CIA and the rabid RW US "national security" apparatus; and all the cast and crew of the "war" on "terror."
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 09:26 PM
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9. shit.
You may be right.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 09:31 PM
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10. Arms Dealers and those that profit from chaos
Which can include parties on either sides of the conflict.
I think Defense contractors will benefit also
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 09:31 PM
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11. Ibraham does.....an X-CIA cooperative (inhouse backstabbing)
Vengence for something.
He certainly has the goods on Bush's blackmarket terror plans.
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rainbow4321 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-04-08 10:22 PM
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12. Because of all the crap that the chimp regime has pulled in 8 yrs
Edited on Thu Dec-04-08 10:23 PM by rainbow4321
The tinfoil hat part of me thinks they SOMEHOW the chimp regime will find a way to benefit from all of this..Jan 20th cannot get here soon enough. I can't see the current Indian government wanting this to happen cuz there is a general election in 4 months (per their news) and the current office holders are throwing everyone they can out of office in hopes of decreasing Indians' anger before they hit the poll booths. All those "resignations" we've been reading about have come only after TONS of angry media coverage...THEIR media people don't pull any punches during their reports, they have been all over the pre-attack security missteps and post-attack stupid politican comments/actions (one of the pols resigned after calling the Mumbai attack a "small incident"!). Pretty damn refreshing to watch THIER news after having our US lapdog M$M for the last 8 years!


http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Dawood_confident_Pak_establishment_wont_touch_him/articleshow/3789890.cms

Security agency sources told TOI on Wednesday that it's business as usual for the underworld kingpin. A few days ago, a couple of his relatives, including Salim Ansari, flew to Pakistan (using their valid Indian passports) to meet him. Sources said the don was so confident that he would not be touched by the Pakistani establishment that he had made no changes in his daily routine.

He continues to phone his contacts in Mumbai. Recently, a contact who fronts for him in the real estate business reportedly sent Rs 120 crore via hawala, sources in the government stated. The hawala channel between Mumbai and Karachi remains busy.
(snip)
Indian security agencies are keeping close tabs on Dawood's movements, as are their counterparts in the US intelligence establishment. It's on the basis of detailed inputs from them that India maintains that Dawood Ibrahim is in Pakistan. But central agencies question why the Maharashtra government has not taken any action against the D-company here

(snip)

Meanwhile, security agencies are hoping the US will move on Lashkar-e-Taiba leaders, including Abu Hamza and Hafeez Syed. An email sent to a TV channel was traced to an LeT hideout near Muridke in Pakistan's Punjab province. The phone intercepts of the LeT terrorists who executed the Mumbai massacre also reveal their links to Pakistan and Bangladesh.


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http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/US_sets_stage_for_strikes_if_Pak_does_not_act/articleshow/3789520.cms

US sets stage for strikes if Pak does not act

The United States has set the stage for punitive internationally-backed strikes by India against terrorist camps in Pakistan, if
Islamabad does not act first to dismantle them, by rejecting President Zardari’s alibi that non-state actors were responsible for the last week’s carnage in Mumbai.


Although US officials have not outright approved immediate punitive Indian strikes against terrorist targets in Pakistan, it is clear Rice has bought time for Islamabad to prove its bonafides and promise of cooperation. Pakistan has a ''special responsibility'' and needs to act ''urgently'' she said, even as India has indicated it will wait for a Pakistani response to its demands before any punitive action.

In Washington, experts pressed the administration to expand the scope of punitive strikes to an international level to avoid making it an India-Pakistan issue, particularly since the death toll included citizens of 10 countries.
(snip)
Rice will proceed to Islamabad on Thursday to read the riot act while U.S Joint Chiefs of Staff Mike Mullen is expected to arrive in New Delhi as part of U.S playbook to keep a stream of visitors in the region in order to prevent outbreak of immediate hostilities.




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