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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 06:00 AM
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Want a fix to this nation's economic problems?
1. Create more, stable or fluid, middle class paying jobs in the US. This will ensure people don't need government services and as such:

2. Reduce the amount of money government spends on various needless services from across the board.

Corporations wouldn't have to pay more in taxes.

It would compensate for any tax cut given to middle class Americans, because more of us would be working meaning and cut would be made up and more by the quantity of people working.

Government stops spending asinine amounts of money.

Debt gets paid back.

World unequivocally loves us again because we can provide for our own AND do proper globalization too.

And pay good workers with good wages, which only helps our economy more. It's an incentive - certainly used to be. Constant cost cutting only leads to deflation, which will eventually spiral and shatter the whole global economy. Or even a step further, given people already buy and wear t-shirts to advertise some TV show's logo or product offering: Nobody can pay to work; people go to work to get paid.

It's going to take time, and corporations are as much America as Sara Lee's pie and Major League Baseball these days.

Or maybe I'm missing the obvious; I tend to do that too. :(
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 06:02 AM
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1. We're still the worlds largest exporter of BUSHit!
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Waiting For Everyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 06:29 AM
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2. One problem: Jobs and globalization don't exactly go together.
We will have to choose one or the other.
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Ghost Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 06:30 AM
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3. Wel, "unequivocally" is maybe stretching it a bit, 'cause there are other issues,
but if at least you can, and are willing to, pay your own way without raping the rest of us, that will be a help.

Good analysis. But the 'bosses' disapprove of a healthy middle class for the same reason they'll do anything to avoid dealing with an organised working class: because it's dangerous (to their greedy selfish interests).
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 07:29 AM
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5. And yet people in other countries have no problem building their middle classes
I'm still missing something; I'm not seeing any H1Bs with proverbial guns pointed at their heads.
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Ghost Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 01:45 PM
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7. Hey, since the "rebellion", USA used to be the most exemplary
"middle class" builder.

(I used "quotes" because we all know, really, we're talking about, albeit very productive as was, working class (nothing to be ashamed of, 'long as the work is of good quality).
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 06:47 AM
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4. Get more accurate numbers regarding the DOD budget and
then take appropriate action. Entire article is worth it.



http://www.cdi.org/program/issue/document.cfm?DocumentID=4199&IssueID=214&StartRow=1&ListRows=10&appendURL=&Orderby=DateLastUpdated&ProgramID=37&issueID=214&gclid=CMG729a6vZcCFRgqHgodZSplTA

"The Chaos in America’s Vast Security Budget"

Winslow T. Wheeler

>>The $518.3 billion is incomplete; it does not include $70 billion requested to pay for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. But that number too is inaccurate. It does not include enough money to fight the wars for more than a few months in 2009. If the violence in Iraq stays at its recently reduced levels – or even declines – that $70 billion should be about doubled to get through the entire year. If things fall apart in Iraq and continue to deteriorate in Afghanistan, as is very likely, that $70 billion should be about tripled. In either case, the amount requested in the budget for the wars is off by $70 billion to $140 billion.

This barely scratches the surface of the numbers in the Pentagon’s budget that are cooked by the military services, civilian managers, and budget personnel. But, to add to the confusion and obfuscation, there are other national security costs, and uncertainties, in other agency budget requests.<<
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notesdev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 11:48 AM
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6. Train Americans instead of importing H1-Bs
In my industry (IT) if you have a job opening, 19 out of 20 applicants will be H1-Bs, the other 5% will be Americans and green card holders. Good solid middle-class jobs, and let me tell you, you don't need to be a brain surgeon to do the vast majority of them. In this industry alone there are enough jobs, that if the H1-B program were cut entirely, it would have a significant impact on US employment. And I know my industry is not alone... in the medical field the situation is not much different, we import nurses in particular by the truckload.

On the lower end of the income scale, there's the problem of illegal immigration pushing down the wages in several industries from levels that would be decent to subsistence, simply because there are so many of them.

Isn't it time our government started making laws that help Americans instead of foreigners?
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