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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 02:54 PM Original message |
So, how does a new president pragmatically deal with the high crimes of the prior regime? |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 02:58 PM Response to Original message |
1. Good ideas, but my concerns would be about the cost |
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DCKit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 04:10 PM Response to Reply #1 |
14. The Republics thought nothing of spending $500 million persecuting Clinton... |
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northernlights (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-16-09 02:23 PM Response to Reply #1 |
25. what's the cost of *not* doing it? |
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90-percent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 03:02 PM Response to Original message |
2. Costs? |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 03:09 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. About 1% of what you'd save by ending or even just scaling back the "drug war" |
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glitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 03:22 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. About $14 Trillion some have projected. May be low ball. nt |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 03:47 PM Response to Reply #5 |
10. Not a bad guess for the ballpark or scale of it... |
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glitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 06:42 PM Response to Reply #10 |
19. I like it, from Stiglitz as Treasury Sec to keep the focus simple for prosecutions. Initially. nt |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 06:45 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. Well, Geithner may actually go down... |
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Old and In the Way (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 03:02 PM Response to Original message |
3. Agreed. |
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Hydra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 03:32 PM Response to Original message |
6. Obama is the one steering the ship |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 03:34 PM Response to Original message |
7. K&R |
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Vincardog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 03:41 PM Response to Original message |
8. I am with you till you get to #10. Their lies and treachery are already in the historical record |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 03:57 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. Do you really know that? |
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suston96 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 03:44 PM Response to Original message |
9. Fuggedabout it. The term for this is "utilitarianism"....... |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 03:54 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Sorry, the term for that is "insanity" |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 04:00 PM Response to Original message |
13. Appoint competent people that follow the law (letter and spirit) and get out of the way |
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DCKit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 04:15 PM Response to Original message |
15. Cheney's claim of Executive Privilege while claiming to be apart from the Executive... |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 04:49 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. Yeah, there ought to be a Court of Logic with no-appeals sentencing power. |
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kenny blankenship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 04:53 PM Response to Original message |
17. It depends on whether you want these crimes to recur in the future |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 06:02 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. Yes, there's always the possibility... |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 07:32 PM Response to Original message |
21. Simple way to deal with it |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-16-09 08:57 AM Response to Reply #21 |
23. "No one is above the rule of law" - the Republican line... |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-16-09 02:15 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. I actually believe in it |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-16-09 05:08 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. Yes, of course, you have to believe in it... |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 11:36 PM Response to Original message |
22. kick |
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Malikshah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-16-09 02:29 PM Response to Original message |
26. The cost of not pursuing the investigation and prosectution far outweighs any |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-16-09 05:09 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. I agree, and therefore it's important to take away the |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-17-09 02:49 PM Response to Original message |
29. The "Bush is a good guy" kick (Obama already ditching Step 9 above) |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-18-09 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
30. The Bush preparing to pardon the whole cabal, maybe, kick. |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-19-09 12:24 PM Response to Original message |
31. I forgot the most obvious step, of course... |
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Still Sensible (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-19-09 12:54 PM Response to Original message |
32. I generally agree with the OP and have three concerns |
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