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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 04:26 PM
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Pew Poll: Younger Americans Are More and More Secular than Their Elders
According to Brian Flemming:

http://www.slumdance.com/blogs/brian_flemming/archives/002556.html


Imagine no religion

That's where the trend lines are headed, according to the Pew Research Center:



It doesn't appear that younger people tend to acquire superstition as they age, either. Gen Y is the most religion-free generation in the survey, but the trend has gone from 8% secular to 12% secular overall, as greater numbers of reasonable young people show up and retain their reason as they age.

And that Gen Y 19% represents those who were willing to say that they have no religion. Imagine how many others who were polled do not really believe in a Sky Daddy, but out of the fear that is the hallmark of monotheism, they shrugged and wagered on the brighter side of that theoretical .0000000000000000001% chance, and said to the pollster something like, Well, I guess I'm a Lutheran, because my parents were. And then proceeded to go on with their lives as if there is no god (not praying, not going to church, not even thinking about a god of any kind), because they don't really possess a strong conviction that there is one.

As atheists get more vocal and visible, we're going to win over a lot more of those Pascal-intimidated fence sitters, who will choose to take that tiny risk of an eternal Hell in the next life in exchange for not suffering the embarrassment of being thought superstitious in this one.

The survey PDF.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 04:28 PM
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1. Secularism has nothing to do with whether or not one is religious.
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 05:16 PM
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15. No it doesn't
And it becomes problematic when people, particularly the RR, use "secular" and "atheist" or "non-religious" interchangeably. They are completely different.
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 04:35 PM
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2. Do YOU blame them?
Religion is largely the root cause of a lot of evil.

http://www.religioustolerance.org/curr_war.htm
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 04:37 PM
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4. I take it as a good sign.
A thaw seems to be underway.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 04:35 PM
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3. YAY!
:applause:
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 04:38 PM
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5. that's TODAY
The later *converts* (can you say George W. Bush) are the ones that really do the damage. And I'll bet a lot of them considered themselves *secular* at that age.

Let's see the same people checked in a decade.
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LondonReign2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 04:42 PM
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6. That was my initial thought too
But notice that the prior generations didn't become more regilious as they aged.
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 04:47 PM
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9. I honestly believe these people who *find* religion
ESPECIALLY the wealthy ones - are scared to death of what will happen to them after they die. I don't think it has anything to *do* with finding God. It's all about saving their asses.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 04:48 PM
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10. Bush's clique is, fortunately, a very tiny clique.
About 1% of the population. Unfortunately, they're also inordinately powerful.
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 04:51 PM
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11. Dunno -- I've got alot of those *born-agains* around here
Big Cars, Bigger Houses, etc.

They seem to spend more time trying to outdo and out-shop each other than anyone else. I don't think it's just that upper 1%.

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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 04:53 PM
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12. Those may be the same people who are borrowing at the subprime rate.
Could be, anyway. :shrug:
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 04:56 PM
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13. yeah, it could be -- OR
They took their ill-gotten gains and sunk the money into that McMansion everyone *must* have.
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 04:42 PM
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7. I lost my religion in my late twenties
So I doubt I'd be counted as "young". Technically I fall on the outer edge of Generation X.
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gaspee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 04:45 PM
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8. It's about time
The cognitive disconnect it actually takes to be a true believer fundy does not fit in the modern world. Spirituality, sure, no problem... fundamentalism? Mental illness.
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MedleyMisty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 05:11 PM
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14. By this table, I'm Gen Y
Born in December of 1980.

I grew up in Mount Airy, the town that Mayberry was based on.

The conclusions seem about right to me. In school, the really religious people were always sort of misfits. I mean, yeah, a few people went to church with their parents and were even in the youth group, but not that many people really believed in it. I can honestly remember maybe one person at the most who could be called a fundie, and because he was a reject I felt sorry for him and talked to him and helped him with his algebra homework. I think he was mentally disabled in some way.
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