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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 05:13 PM
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How the Stimulus Bill Affects You. Think $13. Also think this:
How come all those tax cuts over *'s 8 years didn't incite this sort of media response?

http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Investing/Extra/how-the-stimulus-bill-could-affect-you.aspx
(contains the $13 reference, which many of us rather fathomed every time * put in another cut. For working class people, it's the cost of a couple of obesity-inducing happy meals.)



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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 05:16 PM
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1. $52 a month pays the phone bill n/t
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 05:19 PM
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5. We dumped the phone company
We use Vonage for $24.99/month. Comes to < $30 after taxes.
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GentryDixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 05:18 PM
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2. It buys milk and bread.
And maybe some staples like rice and beans.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 05:29 PM
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7. $26 per month. I bet many people during those 8 years were thinking this:
"Oooh, tax cut for us! We make $50,000/yr. They currently take out 33%, which is almost $17000. If they take out 28%, then we'd get $3000 back. Divvied up each month, that's $250 per month!"

$250 seems more than $26.

$26 doesn't hurt, but methinks people, when hearing "tax cuts", think that their net contributions go from 33% to 28% or whatever. Seems more like from 33 to 32%.

With the cost of gas and electricity rising, $26 goes bye-bye soon enough too.


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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 05:18 PM
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3. Ask a republican how a tax cut is going to help when all the bu$h
tax cuts did nothing to keep this from happening.
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 05:18 PM
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4. They overlook huge chunks of the other portions in the bill, of course.
That $400/$800 tax cut is a small piece of the whole.

:banghead:
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BlueJac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 05:27 PM
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6. If you are unemployed you get nothing more per week.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 05:51 PM
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14. false
the stimulus bill gives an additional $25 per week, extends unemployment benefits and gives more to food stamps and towards insurance (Cobra, MA). Plus the bill may put many unemployed back to work repairing our crumbling infrastructure.
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 05:56 PM
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15. Yep.
:kick:
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ProgrezivIndie Donating Member (165 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 05:29 PM
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8. people need to rethink HOW they obtain their food supply
Edited on Tue Feb-17-09 05:39 PM by ProgrezivIndie
Please... tell those "in need" (and who among us doesn't know someone in that category)? Pass it around via your mailing lists... check it out for yourselves!

Angel Food Ministries (AFM) (http://angelfoodministries.com) provides restaurant-quality food boxes, enough to feed a family of four for a week, for $30. This not-for-profit organization operates through local churches; you can locate your nearest AFM participating church on their web site. There is NO MEANS TEST, you do not have to be living in poverty to avail yourselves of this resource!

hth
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 05:32 PM
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10. Oooh, excellent response - thank you. That should be an OP, if you do not mind me saying so.
I've read other places that do similar things.

Please make an OP - and ask it be K&R'ed.

And that's an awesome price; $26/mo is just about one week's worth of food. THAT makes a REAL difference. And proof that entities of faith aren't always evil either.
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ProgrezivIndie Donating Member (165 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 05:38 PM
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11. OP - K&R - NT ... pardon this DU newbie, but

I'm not familiar with these abbreviations <insert embarrassed expression> LOL!

Is there a list of 'em somewhere? TIA

I've checked into AFM, and have passed it along to many others. LARGE FAMILY? WANT a month's worth (instead of a week's worth)? no problem... generally speaking there is NO LIMIT to the number of "boxes" that one can order.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 05:42 PM
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12. Original Poster... kick & recommend... No Text
Welcome to DU :hi:

TIA...refers to an oldie DU poster (now left us for other websites) Truth Is All.. they were cutting edge on election issues
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ProgrezivIndie Donating Member (165 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 06:11 PM
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18. thanks for the help and the welcome

TIA, as I used it, meant "thanks in advance" (don't want to be confused with another respected DU poster, ya know?)

Based on Deja Q's advice, I'll revise this info and post it as an original.

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ljm2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 06:09 PM
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17. Welcome to DU!
OP == Original Post, so the replier was requesting you to make it an original post (not sure you can though, there is a minimum number of posts you have to have before you can do that)

K&R == Kick & Recommend, the replier is suggesting that when you make your original post, you ask people to kick & recommend it. Lots of recommendations means it will get on the Greatest list which is maintained on the front page of the site, and kicking it (which any reply to it automatically does) keeps it alive in the listings, so it shows up on the first page of posts here on GD (General Discussion) rather than dropping off so people don't see it anymore.
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ProgrezivIndie Donating Member (165 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 06:29 PM
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22. thanks for that additional explanation,

i've taken Deja Q's suggestion, and have since posted this info as an OP
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 05:57 PM
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16. Thanks for the reminder and the info.
And many towns have food co-ops that provide a discount for volunteer support of the co-op.

:thumbsup:
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 06:16 PM
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20. I have signed up for this - get my first box next week.
Edited on Tue Feb-17-09 06:16 PM by Avalux
A wonderful person posted the link on DU a week or so ago; I have just lost my job so it will help immensely. :hi:
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 05:31 PM
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9. Why didn't they rail on the Bush 2000 tax cut
I figured out I got the equivalent of a friggin' 4 Happy Meals a month w/o the Coke in 2000 from the Bush tax cut. If I get $13 a week from Obama that's the equivalent of 2 steak dinners a month(not that its what I'll spend it on). I'll be curious to see what it does to my net pay when it goes in to effect.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 05:50 PM
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13. Obama promised the tax cuts--but the stimulus affects all of us in many other ways too
if you are unemployed you get more $ per week, extended benefits, and more food stamps. Then there are the infrastructure projects with work on roads, bridges, etc which will help put people back to work and better our infrastructure. Then there is additional $ to states to help pay for other priorities. It's a good bill. Could be better, but a good bill. More to come, too.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 06:14 PM
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19. I'm going to get almost 100 bucks more in unemployment every month -
and can collect up to a year now(instead of 5 months). 100 bucks and more time is a godsend to me at this difficult time in my life.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 06:25 PM
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21. My son in Seattle just got laid off last week..He'll be happy to hear this too
Edited on Tue Feb-17-09 06:26 PM by SoCalDem
He's a crane operater at a specialty steel Co.. Their "business" dropped from 300,000 pounds a month to about 30,000 pounds last month.. They ran 3 shifts, and are now down to 2..
His unemployment checks will be enough to get by on, and he's pretty sure he'll get called back, but it's upsetting to him.. this is his first "really-good" job..
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 06:29 PM
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23. I'm sorry to hear that; tell him to hang in there.
I lost mine two weeks ago - didn't even see it coming. I thought medical research would be insulated; our CEO told us our jobs were safe, then BAM. They cut 20% of employees just like that.

I will be able to get by for awhile too; having a hard time mentally more than anything - have been working for the past 20 years. :hi:
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