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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 01:42 PM Original message |
What's important about "Piyush/Bobby" thing is it reveals he is the *opposite* of *Barack* Obama |
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Kahuna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 01:43 PM Response to Original message |
1. I live in NJ. Indians in NJ use their ethnic names whether you can |
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YOY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 01:44 PM Response to Original message |
2. "To thine own self be true." |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 01:44 PM Response to Original message |
3. Expect this subtlety to be lost on most. |
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atreides1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 01:48 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. That's the Truth |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 01:49 PM Response to Original message |
5. Yes, what a devious little four year-old he was |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 01:49 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Exactly the point -- Barry went back to "Barack..." |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 01:50 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. So up until then, he was a noxious little coward, willingly choosing a slave name? |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 01:51 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. um, words-in-people's mouths much? |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 01:54 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Let's use yours directly: Barack was "afraid of who he really was, and where he really came from." |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 02:00 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. "Do you hear yourself?" Indeed. |
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Raineyb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 04:14 PM Response to Reply #5 |
97. Four year olds are certainly able to discern that they are different from |
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Skinner ADMIN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 01:50 PM Response to Original message |
7. I'm pretty sure Barack Hussein Obama didn't go into politics with his whole name. |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 01:53 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. I wasn't speaking about intent, only what embracing a name reveals |
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Kahuna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 01:57 PM Response to Reply #7 |
15. Again..Barack "Hussein" is a lot different from Piyush. Barack was |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 02:01 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. I'm not sure what your point is. It doesn't seem to be speaking to mine. |
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Kahuna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 02:02 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. I didn't respond to you. Look again. nt |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 02:08 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. Oh. Well then, a tip of the hat and never mind... |
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Kahuna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 03:25 PM Response to Reply #22 |
67. Likewise, |
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Skinner ADMIN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 02:08 PM Response to Reply #15 |
23. Do you honestly believe *anyone* on DU was using Jindal's real name... |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 02:11 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. That's a point -- but not the one I was making... |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 02:18 PM Response to Reply #23 |
29. Thank you for seeing it Skinner |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 02:23 PM Response to Reply #23 |
36. thanks |
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Kahuna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 03:26 PM Response to Reply #23 |
69. I don't think it is self evident. Sometimes people just do things...just because... |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 03:41 PM Response to Reply #69 |
78. A point, to be sure. But the name change seemed to fit other GOP behavior |
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Kahuna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 03:52 PM Response to Reply #78 |
82. My thing is this. It's racist to believe that there is something wrong with |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 03:57 PM Response to Reply #82 |
87. No -- who here is saying there's anything bad about his given name? |
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Kahuna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 03:59 PM Response to Reply #87 |
90. I didn't mean you. Clearly not you. But those who are saying it's racist.. |
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Kahuna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 05:33 PM Response to Reply #87 |
105. Jeez Villager. Catch a clue. I'm pretty much agreeing with you. |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 07:29 PM Response to Reply #105 |
109. I eventually caught that clue! ;-) But this thread has sparked a weirdly hysterical response |
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marybourg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 10:12 PM Response to Reply #23 |
110. When I say "Piyush" |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 02:55 PM Response to Reply #7 |
53. Finally--a soupçon of sanity! |
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sofa king (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 01:52 PM Response to Original message |
10. I don't like this stuff. |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 01:55 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. No racial slurs here -- and I have no problem calling him "Bobby" |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 02:11 PM Response to Reply #13 |
24. It bears repeating: he was four years old! How was he capable of some calculated "flight?" |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 02:13 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. What also bears repeating is that it is revelatory that Barack went back to his name |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 02:19 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. I wish DU would cease "psychological insights" speculation based on superficial trifles |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 02:20 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. so you disagree that Republicans use projection, or are usually in hiding |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 02:21 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. I bet they say the same thing about the Democrats. |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 02:24 PM Response to Reply #33 |
38. they might. But that'd be projection. |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 02:27 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. Oh well then ! |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 02:21 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. Nope. But your evidence that Jindal did this at -four years old- would be...? |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 02:26 PM Response to Reply #34 |
39. A circle is a fun shape -- and we seem to be emulating it |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 02:58 PM Response to Reply #26 |
55. Bobby is a COMMON Indian nickname. That's where you don't "get it"--the racial overtones aside. |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 03:13 PM Response to Reply #55 |
61. the racial overtones were yours. I was contrasting with Obama |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 03:31 PM Response to Reply #61 |
73. Bobby is a perfectly "authentic" nickname--in India. And America. |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 02:16 PM Response to Reply #13 |
28. He was a CHILD when he took a more american sounding name |
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Coexist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 01:55 PM Response to Original message |
14. I love that 'skinny kid with a funny name' |
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Fresh_Start (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 01:58 PM Response to Original message |
16. nah |
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truebrit71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 02:04 PM Response to Original message |
20. EXACTLY!!!! |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 02:06 PM Response to Original message |
21. Possible but not necessarily. Sometimes, changing your name like that |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 02:15 PM Response to Original message |
27. You know what? I have 1st generation friend who uses the name Andy. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 02:19 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. There are two problems with villager's thesis. |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 02:22 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. Interesting points to chew over -- especially for the OP. But I was specifically noting the contrast |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 02:27 PM Response to Reply #35 |
41. I do understand what you're getting at and completely agree |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 02:34 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. Well, I agree! And that's well put: Republicans build themselves from "outside in" |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 02:23 PM Response to Reply #27 |
37. Hmm. Does Gov. Jindal strike you as a man who knows himself deeply? |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 02:34 PM Response to Reply #37 |
42. A speech and a couple interviews doesn't qualify me to answer that. |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 02:35 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. Aw, c'mon! Let's play Dowd, or Krauthammer, or Matthews, or... |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 02:36 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. Heh- noooooooooooooo |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 02:35 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. Fair enough... |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 02:35 PM Response to Original message |
46. yeah, cos obama was just telling every reporter in sight that his middle name was hussein. nt |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 02:47 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. I don't recall him ever denying it, or pretending otherwise, however... |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 02:53 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. the people who used hussein were only doing to scare the american people |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 02:54 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. Well, I don't know. Has Bobby Jindal ever used "Piyush" in public, the way Obama |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 03:03 PM Response to Reply #52 |
56. exactly no one remembers obama using it till he won the presidency. |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 03:10 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. well, presumably he was sworn in as governor? |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 03:12 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. telling of what? that his ambitions are over? the guy started going by bobby at 4 |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 03:27 PM Response to Reply #59 |
70. How on earth did you get to "Xenophobic?" |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 03:39 PM Response to Reply #70 |
76. the use of the word piyush, when trying to denigrate a political opponent is xenophobic |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 03:42 PM Response to Reply #76 |
79. Yes, well -- I wasn't using Piyush to denigrate him, and never have |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 04:00 PM Response to Reply #79 |
91. and again, Obama did not use hussein till he was elected president |
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Kahuna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 04:11 PM Response to Reply #91 |
94. "Elected" president??? I'm pretty sure that he was using it the entire time.. |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 04:20 PM Response to Reply #94 |
99. no, he didnt use hussein. jon stewart recently alluded to this too |
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Kahuna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 03:43 PM Response to Reply #76 |
80. Only if one is trying to "denigrate" and how would you be in the position |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 03:58 PM Response to Reply #80 |
88. so you saw np problems with the use of hussein obama by freepers in oct 2008? |
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Kahuna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 04:02 PM Response to Reply #88 |
92. No, I didn't. Sure, I knew their intent. They're freepers. Since when do |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 04:15 PM Response to Reply #92 |
98. So, you need Obama himself to personally instruct you to recognize ethinic slurs? |
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starroute (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 07:02 PM Response to Reply #58 |
107. He took the governor's oath as "Bobby" |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 02:47 PM Response to Original message |
48. That is just SO false. You can dislike him for his ideology, but his name is common in |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 02:53 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. It's not "false," since I was contrasting the embracing of an ethnic name with Barack Obama |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 03:08 PM Response to Reply #51 |
57. You said "he" was the opposite and that he was uncomfortable in his own skin. |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 03:16 PM Response to Reply #57 |
63. I'm without any shame!? Jesus Christ, and to think I was about to respond to this.. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 03:21 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. There isn't anything to discuss. You are going after this guy with |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 03:23 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. Well, clearly there isn't anything to discuss, since you have your heart set on attack mode... |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 03:26 PM Response to Reply #65 |
68. Gee, now it's "attack mode" if you have a problem with bigotry. Please. NT |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 03:31 PM Response to Reply #68 |
72. Enough of your gratuitous insults. Off to the ignore list.. . |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 03:32 PM Response to Reply #72 |
74. Gee, now it's a gratuitious insult if you have a problem with bigotry! |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 02:57 PM Response to Original message |
54. For god sakes he did that at four |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 03:13 PM Response to Original message |
60. How about Jesse Francis "Jeff" Bingaman? |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 03:15 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. Obama seems to've arrived at a point where he embraced his "story" |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 03:40 PM Response to Reply #62 |
77. my point does make sense, |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 03:44 PM Response to Reply #77 |
81. Fair enough, as well. Given your point about Louisiana |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 03:55 PM Response to Reply #81 |
84. Any name that is not your legal name can be used on the ballot in Louisiana |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 03:24 PM Response to Reply #60 |
66. Well, golly, both Jesse and Jeff are both 'Murkan names, you see! |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 03:27 PM Response to Reply #66 |
71. Huh? You're getting so splenetic you're not even making sense anymore... |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 03:33 PM Response to Reply #71 |
75. Gee, I thought you put me on ignore! nt |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 03:53 PM Response to Original message |
83. Obama did not embrace Barack Hussein Obama until after he was elected. |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 03:55 PM Response to Reply #83 |
85. But he didn't have a nickname to deflect from the "Hussein" (or the Barack) |
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Kahuna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 03:56 PM Response to Reply #85 |
86. He could have called himself, Barry, but he didn't. nt |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 03:59 PM Response to Reply #85 |
89. We attacked right-wingers for bringing up "Hussein," didn't we? |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 04:08 PM Response to Reply #89 |
93. And I think all we're saying is that may reveal a difference between him and BHO |
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kirby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 04:13 PM Response to Original message |
95. Shows similarity between DUers and Freepers... |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 04:28 PM Response to Reply #95 |
100. So you can state with certainty about the "mean spirit" behind various posts? |
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kirby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 04:41 PM Response to Reply #100 |
101. I am shades of gray, not black/white type of person... |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 04:44 PM Response to Reply #101 |
102. Yet you freely attribute black/white motives to everyone else? |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-09 08:52 AM Response to Reply #102 |
111. The assumption that he has "run" from it is the offensive part |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-09 02:08 PM Response to Reply #111 |
112. Why do you assume he hasn't run from it? |
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Seeking Serenity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 04:14 PM Response to Original message |
96. And it may be reflective of none of that. |
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newtothegame (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 05:20 PM Response to Original message |
103. Orrr....political correctness has run it's course for DU'ers cause it's no longer useful to them... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 07:21 PM Response to Reply #103 |
108. I don't think that's true of DU at all. |
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newtothegame (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 05:20 PM Response to Original message |
104. Orrr....political correctness has run its course for DU'ers cause it's no longer useful to them... |
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Numba6 (355 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-25-09 05:42 PM Response to Original message |
106. he ain't a bobby, he's the same old dick |
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