Is it still ok to call "Wolf" Blitzer Leslie? How about calling Chris Mathews

[B o d i]

Poll question: Is it still ok to call "Wolf" Blitzer Leslie? How about calling Chris Mathews

Tweety?

Just checking.

[ZombieHorde]

1. What is this about?

[leftstreet]

2. Wait, what?

[B o d i]

3. The software ate everything after my quotation marks. I fixed it.

[leftstreet]

7. Er, mebbe you should try again

I don't get it.

Their 'nicknames' aren't about race or ethnicity.

:shrug:

[EFerrari]

4. How are either of those examples ethnic slurs? Thanks. nt

[B o d i]

10. Did I say they were?

Leslie is the name Blitzer's parents gave him, while Tweety is a disparaging nickname used by others in regards to Matthews.

[EFerrari]

13. Then I think you may be missing a big piece of this discussion. n/t

[Waiting For Everyman]

16. No, YOU'RE missing it.

A person's name is not an ethnic slur. Period. That is utter bullshit. To say that it IS an ethnic slur is highly offensive. You are the one who doesn't get it.

[EFerrari]

21. A person's name can be used as an ethnic slur and has been use as one here.

I get it just fine. :hi:

[Waiting For Everyman]

34. That's the most racist thing you could say. Enjoy it.

[EFerrari]

39. Well, no. And as someone who has a non Western name

I trust me, not someone who has been defending turning someone's name into an ethnic slur as "free speech". (Psssst: that's what they ALL say.)

Enjoy the rest of your free speech day!

[Waiting For Everyman]

43. Shame on his parents then, for naming him an "ethnic slur".

You are so logic-challenged. And having an ethic name doesn't give you some special say-so about it. I have a foreign mis-pronounced name too. Checkmate.

[EFerrari]

44. His parents have nothing to do with how you contextualize his name.

But nice try trying to shove off your behavior on them and on me. And, completely unsurprising. :)

[Waiting For Everyman]

45. You're the one who insists his name is an ethnic slur, not me.

That's your judgement, not mine. I see nothing wrong with his name. I'll bet his parents don't either. YOU'RE the one who has some massive problem with it.

Well you can keep that. I don't like getting to know dingbats anyway. Buh bye, now, have fun critiquing people. :hi:

[EFerrari]

47. No, I said the way his name was being used here was an ethnic slur.

And after all these hours, I'm sure this is just another WHOOOOOOOOOOOOSH in your day. :)

[Bill McBlueState]

28. "Leslie is the name Blitzer's parents gave him"

Oh, how I love the internet! :rofl:

[B o d i]

33. Ok, maybe I'm wrong on that. It comes up with thousands of hits on Google though.

:shrug:

[Nickster]

53. I was going to say that too! U-Boat Commander Leslie Wolf Blitzer!

[Occam Bandage]

36. If they aren't, then there's no analogy, and this poll is simply absurdism.

[Waiting For Everyman]

46. Yes, we know. Insults are only allowable against a white majority person.

Well you can forget that. A jerk is a jerk, regardless of color.

[PretzelWarrior]

5. WTF?

[Occam Bandage]

6. How do either call undue attention to their ethnicity?

[Waiting For Everyman]

8. Good idea to take a poll.

We wouldn't want to be "out of line", now, would we? I was wondering myself, just what's "allowable" according to the thought police lately. Of course, they might be too tired to respond, after all the mental gymnastics and pretzel logic they've been through today.

Can't wait to see it on this one. It'll probably be ok to go on insulting anybody any way we want - as long as it's not an "ethnic" person, or person of color. So far, that's the bottom line to it that I've seen.

I call that discriminatory. But then, I'm one of those xenophobic racist people. (But that name calling doesn't count.)

[EFerrari]

12. So being asked not to engage in racial or ethnic slurs weighs on you does it?

That must be terrible for you.

[Waiting For Everyman]

14. That was sarcasm.

You locksteppers don't trouble me at all. :)

[EFerrari]

19. Locksteppers? Despite your brave face, it does seem that you feel oppressed

by being asked to extend simple respect to people who are different from you. But, I'm sure you will continue to fight against this terrible infringement of your civil rights. :)

[Waiting For Everyman]

26. Oh, you're going to tell me how I feel now. How perfect!

Well no, actually I don't give a flying rat's ass what you think. Sorry to disappoint you.

Your supposed standards are not something I agree with at all. So deviating from them is no problem whatsoever for me. I know that's hard for you to grasp, but it really doesn't matter if you do or not.

[EFerrari]

29. Link:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=5134685&mesg_id=5134804

[Waiting For Everyman]

42. Lol! You link to two posts up. Geez.

:crazy:

[cottonseed]

48. I think you'll see that much of the younger generation will refrain from the Piyush garbage.

They're not "thought police" and they're not practicing "mental gymnastics", they just see it is wrong. I think aging white boomers may be the only one's left trying to defend this crap.

[Waiting For Everyman]

54. We're not trying to defend anything, we simply don't buy the other side's view.

We don't revere political correctness as younger people do, we see it for what it is.

And if younger people don't use the name Piyush, that's up to them; but to attempt to make a taboo out of it to us, that's out of bounds. Have your preference, but other people who see it differently are entitled to theirs just as much as you are to yours. It's called "a difference of opinion".

[valerief]

9. Just don't call them late for supper. nt

[Uzybone]

11. No, its racist and childish

We must call people only by the names they want to be called.

[leftstreet]

15. You get to name your dog or your cat - not your neighbor

Why is this so hard to understand?

[Uzybone]

17. Right, so Calling Mr Matthews "tweety" is out of bounds

[leftstreet]

23. (Is he the chubby blonde guy on M$NBC?)

:rofl:

As a media talking head, he probably LOVES the attention he gets on the innerTubes when people call him 'Tweety.'

I don't know.

[Uzybone]

24. LOL. yeah, thats him

the one who mainlines caffeine and sprays his guests will spit as he talks.

Oooh you called him chubby...thats offensive to his weight.

[Fire1]

52. It should be. Calling him out of his name is inappropriate and

'debasement.' You can't have it both ways. If it's not ok for one, it's not ok for the other.:shrug:

[Waiting For Everyman]

18. We 'must'.

That made me lol.

[EFerrari]

25. Treat others as you want to be treated. If more of us could do this we would solve most of our probl

Have aliens hijacked your profile?!

[Uzybone]

31. Yeah, I guess I shouldnt disagree with the GOP

after all I wouldn't want anyone to disagree with me.

:eyes:



What the hell is happening to this place. Is it now taboo to make fun of anyone? All the Bush jokes and Obama jokes and Hillary jokes and Rush jokes etc etc are now out of bounds?

[EFerrari]

35. Why don't you ask the Indian-American DUers on this board.

Maybe they can help you out.

[Uzybone]

37. I haven't made fun of anyone for being Indian American

so maybe you are referring to someone else.

[EFerrari]

41. Yeah. That's the ticket. n/t

[tangent90]

20. Wolf is an idiot but it's his real name.

Never was Leslie. I don't know where the mistake originated...
edit to say I didn't mean to imply you didn't know it :-)\

[KamaAina]

22. "Leslie" Blitzer is an urban legend

originated by, would you believe, Sen.-elect Al Franken (DFL-Still Getting Screwed Over By Whiny-Ass Loser Coleman)!

His true and actual name is indeed "Wolf".

[mitchum]

27. Did his parents want him to grow up and become a Fokker pilot or something?

[KamaAina]

30. No, just a Fokker

:P

[TahitiNut]

32. Submarine captain.

:shrug:

[Quantess]

38. What a bizarre thread.

[TexasObserver]

40. "Asshat" is also acceptable for Tweety and Leslie

[hfojvt]

49. Is it okay to call Les Nessman

Richard Sanders?

I am torn by this dilemma. Can I still call Mr. Carlson 'The Big Guy'?

Plus, turkeys really can fly.

[Nye Bevan]

50. Yes to both. And calling Bush "Chimp" is also fine

Calling McCain "John Sidney McCain", "McInsane", "McSame" is also fine. We do not necessarily need to refer to these people the way they would like us to. But we also don't need to stoop to the oh-so-clever-wide-eyed-innocent racism.

Calling Bush a chimp is fine. Calling Alan Keyes or Michael Steele a chimp would obviously not be fine.

Calling Chris Matthews Tweety is fine. Calling Ann Coulter "Man Coulter" is not fine.

Calling Jindal an overhyped, incoherent, not-ready-for-prime-time little jerk is fine, but gratuitously harping on his ethnicity is not.

[cbc5g]

51. No it's racist

WTFzOMGWTF !!

[B o d i]

55. zomg indeed

totaqlly zomg

[Baikonour]

56. Let me ask this, and I'm being completely serious.

I've read a few articles these past few days that call him 'Piyush "Bobby" Jindal.' Is this okay? If it is, would it not be okay if they left the Bobby in parentheses out? Why?

Thanks.