I prefer Queen Latifah to Rihanna as a Cover Girl role model

[Sarah Ibarruri]

If you agree with me, K&R this.

One is a strong woman that doesn't put up with garbage. The other one is the role model of spousal abuse victimization. Why does Cover Girl continue to use Rihanna's ad? I don't get it.

Anyhow, I wrote Cover Girl letting them know that.

Here's their e-mail.

http://www.covergirl.com/askcg.jsp

When you click on this page, make sure to go to the tab that reads, "e-mail" and fill out, then after filling it all out, continue on to the end (even tho it seems that you've finished there's one last "submit" button).

Thanks.

[Vanje]

1. I got hit once

It was awful.

I'm really glad that I didnt get fired because an asshole hit me.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

3. :( I know someone who got hit many times and still stayed with the guy

And now she's in a relationship with another abuser. I asked her why, and she said he's not really an abuser.

:crazy:

[Horse with no Name]

2. I love Queen Latifah

She is smart, beautiful, savvy and makes me want to wear makeup, but since I will never look as good as she does, I guess I'll pass.
However, Rihanna is young, naive, and in love. I am not going to hold that against her.
I only hope that she gets through this part of her young life intact and that she wises up.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

5. Rihanna is definitely young, definitely in love but definitely a horrible role model nt

[Horse with no Name]

9. With all due respect, she is selling makeup.

I fail to see how someone that sells makeup is a role model?:shrug:

[Sarah Ibarruri]

38. To young women, as a horrific role model nt

[Occam Bandage]

92. Models of all sorts are terrible role models.

By definition they exist as nothing but ornamentation, prized only for their nigh-unobtainable physical attributes, which are then manipulated and enhanced beyond human limits through expert application of makeup, of lighting, of camera angles, of designer clothing, and of post-photograph Photoshop work. In no way are they positive role models for young girls.

[DailyGrind51]

93. Yet, sadly, teens follow their example.

[Quantess]

4. She can cover her bruises with cover girl foundation.

I guess that's the take home message for cosumers.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

6. I GUESS! I hadn't even thought of that. What an ugly coincidence nt

[Luciferous]

13. I was thinking the same thing when I saw that commercial :D

I felt bad for her until she went back to the guy... now I'm sick of hearing about both of them.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

45. I know. I almost fell off the sofa when I saw they were using her as their role model nt

[Dorian Gray]

51. She's not their role model...

she's their model.

Plus, Rhianna and Chris Brown are now taking time apart.

I think it's horrible that some of us want to punish her by taking contracts away from her at this point. She's probably a very confused, hurt and scared young woman. I hope she continues to get good advice, and I hope she continues to stay far away from Chris Brown.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

57. She's their role model and a study is underway to determine if she's good for...

the company as a role model or not. If the poll shows she's not a good role model, she's out the door.

A good role model for abused women is one that will dump the criminal and prosecute.

[Dorian Gray]

59. I don't know why you feel that she is

so terrible. She's keeping her distance from Brown for now, and she was a VICTIM of his abuse.

The fact that you want her punished for that is truly frightening to me.

It would be one thing if she were out in the public singing his praises. That has not happened, though. She's a young girl trying to figure out how she feels about her abuse. Good Lord! I'm truly shocked that you feel she should be punished for this. I don't get it, and no matter how you try to spin it, I won't get it.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

83. I don't think you are aware of the cycle of abuse.

I urge you read up on it, then comment on badness or goodness.

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

87. It's truly incredible isn't it. I can't understand her either.

[Triana]

7. I agree that an abuse target/victim should not be a role model - that's one thing..

...that disappoints me in the whole thing - not that I blame her - but holding up a situation like that (or anyone involved in one) as any kind of "model" is just WRONG and sends the message to people that abuse and violence in intimate relationships is OK and it is NOT.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

39. I agree 100% nt

[Amerigo Vespucci]

8. Cover Girl won't be using Rihanna's ad if the porno video she made with Brown surfaces...

From "The Superficial"...

Because nothing goes better with a domestic violence story than a sex tape rumor, Star is reporting/ that Rihanna and Chris Brown made some "home movies" that she's worried about being leaked to the media now that they're on a break:

We report that Rihanna allowed Chris to record some of their, um, intimate moments and -- she worries that the racy tapes could ruin her -- especially after seeing how quickly Chris turned on her once before. "Rihanna has no issues with her sexuality," a source tells Star. "But she'd be mortified if her friends and family found this out!"
Insiders say Rihanna is still emotionally fragile and vulnerable since the Feb. 8 assault that left her nearly unconscious.

http://thesuperficial.com/2009/03/rihanna_chris_brown_sex_tape_r.php

[Stinky The Clown]

10. Dana Owens is a extraordinarily talented and intelligent woman, who is also gorgeous

[Dorian Gray]

52. She is beautiful

I wish I had her cheek bones!

[CatWoman]

11. nope

not me.

that girl is GORGEOUS!!!

I completely LOVE Rhianna.

I love her fashion sense, espc the accessories.

I love her beauty. A different kind of beauty.

Move over, Beyonce.

And I think she has heeded the warnings.

She is distancing herself from Chris Brown.

[JI7]

14. i thought she got back together with him

[CatWoman]

17. ...

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20266709,00.html

[Sarah Ibarruri]

40. It's very sad that a bad example is used to advertise anything

It's no secret that abusers continue to abuse and forgiving them never leads to a good relationship.

[ColbertWatcher]

12. Why choose between the two?

And who's to say that Rhianna can't become a strong woman?

Oh, and one more thing, I've heard rumors that Latifah is a lesbian, but she isn't very frank about it. If it's true, is that really strong?

[Orrex]

15. Last I heard, she married her longtime girlfriend

Before it became, you know, illegal and stuff.

[ColbertWatcher]

20. Hmm, I think I had heard that before.

So, why isn't this "strong" woman proud of this particular aspect in her life?

Since she's so "strong" and all?

[Orrex]

24. Well, they got married, didn't they? That's sort of a statement of pride

Or has she made some subsequent denial of it that I'd missed?

I wasn't aware that she'd denied or hidden her sexuality particularly. However, aside from saying "damn, she's pretty" when I see her picture, I haven't really followed her goings-on all that closely.

[LostinVA]

36. Dana is a Jersey Girl -- she can tie the knot here

She has a home here.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

46. Oh I see - so maybe because one day she might stop the cycle of abuse by dumping him....

and the possibility exists in the future, she should be a role model for young women even tho she's taken the criminal back? Oy vey.

[Dorian Gray]

53. According to the tabloids

she's keeping her distance from him now.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

56. I hope so nt

[burning rain]

16. Agreed, Queen Latifah...

better exemplifies self-respect.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

47. I agree nt

[TexasObserver]

18. Check out the lyrics to Queen Latifah's hit song, U-N-I-T-Y

Queen Latifah had a song and video about 15 years ago which attacked the coarse language some men use about women, and commented on how women should not accept being hit by men. She should be on the cover of the magazine.

You can hear this excellent song right here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prhF6LE89z4

U-N-I-T-Y

U.n.i.t.y., u.n.i.t.y. that's a unity
U.n.i.t.y., love a black man from infinity to infinity
(who you calling a bitch?!)
U.n.i.t.y., u.n.i.t.y. that's a unity (you gotta let him know)
(you go, come on here we go)
U.n.i.t.y., love a black woman from (you got to let him know)
Infinity to infinity (you ain't a bitch or a ho)
U.n.i.t.y., u.n.i.t.y. thats a unity (you gotta let him know)
(you go, come on here we go)
U.n.i.t.y., love a black man from (you got to let him know)
Infinity to infinity (you ain't a bitch or a ho)

Instinct leads me to another flow
Everytime I hear a brother call a girl a bitch or a ho
Trying to make a sister feel low
You know all of that gots to go
Now everybody knows theres exceptions to this rule
Now dont be getting mad, when we playing, it's cool
But don't you be calling out my name
I bring wrath to those who disrespect me like a dame
That's why I'm talking, one day I was walking down the block
I had my cutoff shorts on right cause it was crazy hot
I walked past these dudes when they passed me
One of 'em felt my booty, he was nasty
I turned around red, somebody was catching the wrath
Then the little one said "yeah, me bitch" and laughed
Since he was with his boys he tried to break fly
Huh, I punched him dead in his eye and said "who you calling a bitch?!"

(here we go)
U.n.i.t.y., u.n.i.t.y. that's a unity (you gotta let him know)
(you go, come on here we go)
U.n.i.t.y., love a black woman from (you got to let him know)
Infinity to infinity (you ain't a bitch or a ho)
(here we go)
U.n.i.t.y., u.n.i.t.y. thats a unity (you gotta let him know)
(you go, come on here we go)
U.n.i.t.y., love a black man from (you got to let him know)
Infinity to infinity (you ain't a bitch or a ho)

I hit the bottom, ain't nowhere else to go but up
Bad days at work, if you an attitude then you were rough
And take it out on me but that's about enough
You put your hands on me again I'll put your ass in handcuffs
I guess I fell so deep in love I grew dependency
I was too blind to see just how it was affecting me
All I knew was you, you was all the man I had
And I was scared to let you go, even though you treated me bad
But I don't want my kids to see me getting beat down
By daddy smacking mommy all around
You say Im nothing without ya, but I'm nothing with ya
A man don't really love you if he hits ya
This is my notice to the door, I'm not taking it no more
I'm not your personal whore, that's not what I'm here for
And nothing good gonna come to ya til you do right by me
Brother you ain't sick? (who you calling a bitch?!)

(here we go)
U.n.i.t.y., u.n.i.t.y. that's a unity (you gotta let him know)
(you go, come on here we go)
U.n.i.t.y., love a black woman from (you got to let him know)
Infinity to infinity (you ain't a bitch or a ho)
(here we go)
U.n.i.t.y., u.n.i.t.y. that's a unity (you gotta let him know)
(you go, come on here we go)
U.n.i.t.y., love a black man from (you got to let him know)
Infinity to infinity (you ain't a bitch or a ho)

Whats going on in your mind is what I ask ya
But like yo-yo, you don't hear me though
You wear a rag around your head and you
Call yourself a gangsta bitch now that you saw Apache's video
I saw you wilding, acting like a fool
I peeped you out the window jumping girls after school
But where did all of this come from?
A minute ago, you was a nerd and nobody ever heard of ya
Now you a wannabe...hard
You barely know your ABC's, please!
There's plenty of people out there with triggers ready to pull it
Why you trying to jump in front of the bullet (young lady)?
Uh, and real bad girls are the silent type
Ain't none of this work getting your face sliced
Cause that's what happened to your homegirl, right? bucking with nobody
She got to wear that for life (who you calling a bitch?!)

(here we go)
U.n.i.t.y., u.n.i.t.y. that's a unity (you gotta let him know)
(you go, come on here we go)
U.n.i.t.y., love a black woman from (you got to let him know)
Infinity to infinity (you ain't a bitch or a ho)
(here we go)
U.n.i.t.y., u.n.i.t.y. that's a unity (you gotta let him know)
(you go, come on here we go)
U.n.i.t.y., love a black man from (you must let him know)
Infinity to infinity (you ain't a bitch or a ho)

[Orrex]

25. Since we're hearting her lyrics, I offer these:

Not quite on topic, but still pretty damn good.


"Evil That Men Do" from 1989


You asked, I came, so behold the Queen
Let's add a little sense to the scene
I'm living positive, not out here knocked up
But the lines are so dangerous, I ought to be locked up
This rhyme doesn't require prime time
I'm just sharing thoughts of mine
Back again cause I knew you wanted it
From the Latifah with the Queen in front of it
Dropping bombs, you're up in arms, you're puzzled
The lines will flow like fluid while you're guzzling
The sip I drop you on a BDP-produced track
From KRS to be exact
It's a Flavor Unit quest that today has me speaking
Cause it's knowledge I'm seeking
Enough about myself, I think it's time that I tell you
About the evil that men do

Situations, reality, what a concept!
Nothing ever seems to stay in step
So today, here is a message to my sisters and brothers
Here are some things I want to cover
A woman strives for a better life, but who the hell cares?
Because she's living on welfare
I government can't come up with a decent housing plan
So she's in no man's land
It's a sucker who tells you you're equal


You don't need him, Johannasburg's crying for freedom!


We the people hold these truths to be self-evident


But there's no response from the president


Someone's living the good life, tax-free
Except for a girl, can't find a way to be crack free
And that's just part of the message
I thought I had to send you about the evil that men do

Tell me, don't you think it's a shame?
When someone can put a quarter in a video game
But when a homeless person approaches you on the street
You can't treat him the same
It's time to teach the def, the dumb, the blind
That black-on-black crime only shackles and binds
You to a doom, a fate worse than death
But there's still time left
Stop putting your conscience on cease
And bring about some type of peace
Not only in your heart, but also in your mind
It will benefit all mandkind
Then there will be one thing that will never stop
And it's the evil that men do

[TexasObserver]

27. Great lyrics! She's truly worthy of admiration.

And that tune is 20 years old!

[Orrex]

28. Confession

I hated that song when I first heard it, because I wasn't into "that kind" of music. But once I got my head out of my ass and actually listened to it, I saw it for the remarkable work that it is.

[supernova]

19. I'd rather figure out a way to hit Chris Brown financially than Rhianna

Rhianna is obviously a young woman who has a lot to learn about what constitutes a healthy relationship.

I don't care for taking away from her financially for simply being naive or possibly masochistic.

I would prefer that if someone takes a financial hit, it's Chris Brown. He's the one who made the bruises.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

41. Chris Brown is a criminal and she's a victimization queen nt

[Dorian Gray]

54. WTF?

You don't know her? You don't know what she's going through emotionally right now. You don't know anything about her.

I'm extraordinarily uncomfortable with your characterization of her. It totally screams of blaming the victim. She was abused by her boyfriend. Thus far, she made some questionable choices, but it currently seems as though she is trying to be strong and make her life away from him.

And for that, you want to punish her by taking her modeling contract from her?

[Sarah Ibarruri]

58. Emotionally, physically, or any other way. Anyone who PUTS him/herself willingly, and

on purpose in harm's way after being harmed, is either psychologically unwell (bad role model until they heal), or makes horrifically bad decisions (bad role model again).

Either way, she should be removed from the Cover Girl ads.

[Dorian Gray]

60. She's currently

NOT with him.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

82. She separated again? They were doing everything together again for a while

after she returned from her healing vacation in the Barbados.

[lightningandsnow]

21. Victim blaming much?

You know how hard it is to leave an abusive partner? I heard somewhere that women, on average, will try to leave an abusive partner 7 times before succeeding.

http://www.bukisa.com/articles/36692_why-dont-abused-women-leave-abusive-relationships :

Often the abuser has created such a distrust and fear that the woman may begin to fear everyone she is around. Who can she turn to? Who can she trust? - especially, if she's tried to open up to others and hasn't been believed. Even if she has been believed, she may be met with ridicule instead of support and understanding. People often respond with, "why don't you just leave"? Some people fail to truly listen to what the abused woman is experiencing. Often her words, direct or indirectly, are a cry for help when she has no idea "how" to leave. Her voice may muted by the abuse so much that she doesn't know how to ask for help. She may have no idea where to even start in getting out of the relationship - safely.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

49. Yes, and it needs to be focused in on

Women need to be helped, however, they don't need to be applauded and lauded for staying with someone that is abusive.

[Ohio Joe]

68. Nor do they need public abuse

Disgusting.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

84. You're right. Victims of abusers need to be removed as role models, and they need to

disappear to get psychological help for going back to the abuse time and time again.

[MadMaddie]

22. Agreed!

[AlCzervik]

23. Are you going to crush her cd's next? This thread is full of wrong.

[Ex Lurker]

26. I have only a sketchy idea of who either of these two women are

but I'll take your word for it.

[donheld]

29. Oh for the love of anyone who's ever

given a good god damned. :eyes::eyes::eyes:

[Schema Thing]

30. I'd almost like to see Chris Brown try to lay a finger on Dana Owens

He might need some makeup to cover bruises hisownshittyself.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

44. Wouldn't you love it? LOL! He'd FINALLY learn a lesson. :-) nt

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

31. Just a guess here, but it may be because she is hot as hell.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

48. And THAT is precisely the kind of attitude that causes girls to continue to be beat up nt

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

63. So finding women attractive makes me an abuser? I'm not sure I understand your logic.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

85. Victims of abuse come in all types, cute, ugly and average. That doesn't change their victim status

nor does that make them good role models, regardless of how good or bad they look.

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

86. Your question Why does Cover Girl continue to use Rihanna's ad? My answer she's hot.

Your response, your attitude causes women to be beaten up. I said nothing about her being a role model, I responded to your question about the continued use of her ads. Not to mention the fact that if they FIRED her right now it would be horrible publicity. My wife told me to add that it's because she's incredibly popular. Get a grip.


David

[Sarah Ibarruri]

95. I think they hired her because she had a HUGE fan following....

Now that she's shown herself as a victim that returns to the abuser, Cover Girl is, I'm sure, thinking she's not such a good idea after all. Revlon hired a polling group to do a poll determining whether or not people consider Rihanna to be a good role model or not.

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

96. So finding her attractive doesn't make me guilty of furthering violence against women?

[Sarah Ibarruri]

97. Of course not. Anyone can be attractive, tall, short, fat, skinny, rich, poor, good, convict...

Looks have little to do with a woman deciding to continue her own personal victimization by a typical abuser by returning to him knowing full well what he is.

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

98. So your initial accusation was wrong, thanks.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

99. (yawn)

:boring:

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

100. I'll take that as a yes and an apology, thanks.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

101. Wow, such desperation that you'll take anything as anything! lol nt

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

102. I know you aren't capable of much, just giving you the benefit of the doubt.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

103. If so, there you still are, helplessly waiting desperately for a morsel LOL nt

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

104. Thanks for proving my point.

[LeftyMom]

32. She is a victim of a violent crime.

Nobody'd post this if got beaten up by a purse snatcher instead of a boyfriend.

I hope.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

50. ..... victim of a violent crime and BEGGING to go back into another violent crime....

And you think that's okay, right?

[Dorian Gray]

55. You'd hope nobody

would post this under the current circumstances, either.

Good point, LeftyMom!

[aikoaiko]

33. I don't really think Rihanna has a very attractive appearance. To me, she's kinda weird looking.

Regardless of her personal life.

[Number23]

34. So she should lose a job she already had because some fool beat her up?

Is that what you're saying here?

[Sarah Ibarruri]

42. She should lose her job for doing the wrong thing - forgiving the criminal that beat her up nt

[Sarah Ibarruri]

43. AND taking him back as if what he'd done had been okay - have you read anything experts have said?

Oprah? Experts? Anybody at all? Read about THE CYCLE OF ABUSE.

[Number23]

64. So let me get this straight...

You are suggesting that every woman who has been in an abusive relationship and who decided to take the abuser back be fired from their jobs?

Or is it just the young and beautiful ones, like Rihanna, that should be persecuted because they were in abusive relationships?

I would gather that between the two of us, if anyone needs to read up on the psychiatry of physical abuse in relationships, it is damn sure you and NOT me.

[Gwendolyn]

66. It's a little different when your job is selling dreams and beauty aids.

Revlon is in the business of selling make-up and the models/actresses who flog the products evoke a certain image. Rightly or wrongly, people have a perception of Rihanna now, that perhaps wasn't so before. Even if they empathize with her situation, most women don't want to have the thought of women being violently attacked while they're doing their skin-care product shopping. It's about the bottom line. Lots of people lose their endorsements for indiscretions like cheating, or drugs. So, you can't compare between her and someone who works at some other not-in-the limelight profession. I mean, is there anybody who can listen to this song with the same emotion after it became news that Whitney was being beaten regularly?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGC003Xz3CY

As it turns out, Revlon did do a survey asking whether women were bothered by her commercial, and apparently they said no. So, looks like it's fine all around.

[Number23]

67. "Even if they empathize with her situation"

"...most women don't want to have the thought of women being violently attacked while they're doing their skin-care product shopping."

Sweet Jesus.

Any woman who honestly feels that way needs to spend less time searching for skin care and more time searching for a f*cking heart. Or a brain.

Good God... and the fact that there are people, presumably WOMEN, defending this line of thinking and calling for Rihanna to be fired because she was in an abusive relationship is so far beyond the realm of decency and fairness I can't even formulate the words to register my utter and complete disgust. If these women should ever find themselves in this situation, they better fall on their knees and pray that the world is kinder to them then they are being to this child, who just turned 20 damn ONE a few days ago. Un fucking believable...

[Gwendolyn]

69. What world do you live in? Calm down.

That's reality. People who get endorsements are expected to "be" certain people and to "convey" a certain image. Athletes who get into trouble with drugs or rape accusations lose their endorsements, whether they're guilty or not. Others who sell beauty are expected to project a vapid, "everything is fluffy clouds and unicorns in my beautiful, sexy, perfect world." That's the way it is. When people buy something, they're buying a piece of that world. None of your outrage is going to change that.

[Number23]

71. And none of your excuses will make it better

Girlfriend, if you are truly, GENUINELY comparing losing an endorsement because you got the shit beaten out of you by someone that you loved to than of an athlete who lost an endorsement due to "selling drugs or raping someone" then that says everything that needs to be said.

And whatever world it is that you live where that comparison makes even the SLIGHTEST bit of sense and is even the slightest bit fair is damn sure not one in which I hope to ever find myself.

[Gwendolyn]

72. Who's making excuses. I'm telling it like it is. Don't confuse that with my feelings.

I haven't even stated my feelings. And I didn't compare her situation with actual rape or the taking of drugs... I said accusations of. That's comparable in the sense that famous people get raked through the coals through no fault of their own, and with no way to stop it. Again, your self-righteous outrage is nice, but totally misplaced.

[Number23]

74. I'll take my "self-righteous outrage" any day over your enabling, excuse-ladden BS

Go bore someone else with your excuses and "explanations." You ain't saying sh*t...

[Gwendolyn]

75. Haha tough internet chickolina!

On your white stallion high horse over a woman who got savagely beaten, while you self-righteously defend her right to be an objectified sex creature in a blue sequin belt-for-a-dress in a television ad promoting beauty products to other women so they can be objectified too. Hilarious! :rofl:

[Number23]

76. Quit while you're behind!

while you self-righteously defend her right to be an objectified sex creature

LOVE how you're trying to change the conversation now, dollface! Oh wait, NOW it's about how "objectification" and not about the fact that you were saying that since she's gotten assaulted by her boyfriend, she's no longer able to convey that "fluffy clouds and unicorn sexiness" bullshit that was so critical before. You are pathetic.

Just take your ass being handed to you nicely and slither back into the shadows where you belong. You are pitiful and you STILL ain't saying shit...

[Gwendolyn]

77. Dollface?

What are we, back in the sixties? And I'm not your "girlfriend" either. I'll patiently explain it to you one more time then take my little ass outta here cause it really is boring now.

"Fluffy clouds and unicorn perfect, beautiful world sexiness" IS objectification. I don't know what's so hard to understand about that. The cosmetics company wants her to convey objectified sexiness, duh! Right after the beating, her camp and her endorsers were concerned about what it would do to her image and THEY thought it best, obviously, that she separate herself from him. I personally don't give a shit. I don't wear covergirl. Maybe you should take your grand mal seizure over to their offices.

[Number23]

80. STILL. AIN'T. SAYING. SHIT. I'm ROFL at the circles you're tying yourself in trying to

sound as if you know the HELL you are talking about. Since you seem incapable of acknowledging the 10 foot fork sticking out of your ass signifying how DONE you are, allow me to put an end to this foolishness.

:hi: And FYI - that is a wave Goodbye and not hello.

[BlooInBloo]

94. I think the OP just wants to promote heavier women...

And is using the DV angle as a diversion.


EDIT: Just a guess, of course.

[LostinVA]

35. K&r for The Queen -- I love me some Dana!

[Kitty Herder]

37. I prefer Queen Latifah, too, just 'cause I like her. But...

I don't think Rhianna should be punished for being abused. Don't punish the victim.

[guitar man]

61. I madly in love with Queen Latifah

:loveya:

She's really hawt, smart and doesn't take any shit.

[pipi_k]

62. I prefer Queen Latifah too, but not because

of what Rihanna has, or hasn't done or tolerated in her personal relationship.

It's because Queen Latifah isn't your usual rail-thin "starving myself so I can fit into a size 0 dress" model.

She's big and bold and gorgeous, and she gives Zaftig ladies like myself hope.

Women don't have to weigh less than a stalk of celery to be gorgeous.



Zaftig is beautiful!

:)

[DailyGrind51]

65. They represent different generations, value systems, and priorities.

[PeaceNikki]

70. This and you are ridiculous. You should be ashamed.

[Number23]

73. No shame in this thread. Lots of judgment and finger pointing, though

[AlCzervik]

78. yes it is, i'm waiting for the cd crushing and boycotting to start.

then maybe they can all run on over to her record company and try and get her dropped.

unreal, this thread was bad last night and it's worse today.

[tammywammy]

89. Indeed n/t

[proud patriot]

79. I love Queen Latifa

always have and always will ..

[Mushroom]

81. Makeup stuff

"Chemicals In Makeup Could Be Harmful To Teens"

http://cbs3.com/health/makeup.chemicals.teens.2.925358.html

[Occam Bandage]

88. Makeup is intended to make women prettier, not to make them stronger.

If you're looking at a makeup company to provide strong, independent role models for women, you're probably not looking in the right place. Their goal is to exploit people's insecurity about their appearances for profit, after all.

But that aside, I'm not sure if I approve of ostracizing someone for being a domestic-abuse victim.

[BlooInBloo]

91. "I'm not sure if I approve of ostracizing someone for being a domestic-abuse victim."...

Seems pretty shitty to me, too.

[BlooInBloo]

90. I prefer Mama Lil's Peppers....

Yum.
http://www.mamalils.com/products.html