Much more offensive than what the president said about S.O. is his

[RB TexLa]

cheerleading the economy instead of treating the American people like adults and saying the recovery is going to take a very, very long time.

[dkf]

1. Some are saying if the financials can be stabilized, an economic recovery could

be on track for the end of the year.

I think for Obama and for people without jobs, that is a pretty lonng time.

[RB TexLa]

4. The only people that have said that are people in the adminstration

No one believes that. We are looking what could be a 40 or so year recovery.

[onenote]

8. You're joking right?

First, you must have been getting your popcorn out of the microwave when Obama started his interview with Leno since he clearly made reference to the fact that it took a while to get into this mess and its going to take a while to get out.

And if you can find a credible source for your suggestion that the recovery could take forty years, I'd love to see it.

[RB TexLa]

12. The last major financial meltdown was around a 25 year recovery. Why would anyone think

this one would be so much shorter? 25, 30, 40 years. Someone saying 5 or 10 is thinking we can just snap our fingers and everything turns around, kind of silly to think that.


On edit: I wasn't watching any television program, I'm not talking about his cheerleading a fast recovery on a specific television program. He and his adminstration has been doing this for the last couple of weeks.

[onenote]

16. well, since you were referring to a comment he made on Leno, excuse me for not

realizing you weren't talking about what he said on that show.

Its hard keeping up with non sequiturs.

On a more substantive note, I guess how long it takes to "recover" depends on what defines as a recovery. Getting back to the same level of employment/unemployment? Getting the stock market back to the same level? GDP?

I'm curious what benchmark you are using to support the claim that it took 25 years to recover from the last major financial meltdown. For example, the early 80s recession peaked, in terms of unemployment, at 10.80 percent in Dec. 1982. Unemployment was back under 6 percent (where it had been before the 80s recession) by Nov 87, which is five years, not twenty five.

[RB TexLa]

17. Ok, since I can't follow logic, then surly I am too God damn stupid to continue conversing with you

I'll stop, I'll save you from trying to figure out how someone this stupid can type, or how I can even figure out how to continue to breathing.

[onenote]

18. or you could try explainging your position. but I'm not going to hold my breath

Nice dodge.

[bluestateguy]

2. Then they would say he is talking down the economy

You just can't win.

Actually, he DID say that full recovery will take awhile.

[skypilot]

3. I didn't catch his appearance on Leno...

...so I don't know what he said that could be interpreted as cheerleading the economy, but on all other occasions he has made a point of saying that the recovery is going to take a long time.

[peace13]

5. Thank god you could come up with another insane talking point for last night.

Have you heard that some of the black, horrible drumming on the economy is actually making the situation worse. People with money could be stimulating the economy but aren't because of this. I think that Obama has made it pretty clear that this will not be a quick fix. Can you think of one good point the man made last night? Just wondering.

[RB TexLa]

6. People with money need to save money, the rate of savings adjusted for inflation is very low right

now. Spending is not a wise move right now.

[peace13]

14. Hello!!!!!!!!!

Continue on your way. Believe it or not hording every penny contributes to the problem.

[cboy4]

7. He did say that .. hey I've been a critic as much as anyone

dating back to the primaries, but you have to be fair.

This was one of the first things out of his mouth:

I do think, though, that the American people are all in a place where they understand it took us a while to get into this mess, it's going to take a while for us to get out of it. And if they have confidence that I'm making steps to deal with issues like health care and energy and education, that matter deeply to their daily lives, then I think they're going to give us some time. (Applause.)

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/20/us/politics/20obama.text.html

[Schema Thing]

13. Damn. That's gotta hurt the OP!

[RB TexLa]

15. I wasn't talking about his doing it only on some television program that I didn't see

The last couple couple of weeks he and his adminstration have been talking about a recovery in the near future.

[cboy4]

19. If you didn't see the interview, what would prompt you to mouth

off about the issue when you know all the talk today is going to be specifically about the interview.

Try doing your homework, so you don't come across as lacking so much credibility.

[RB TexLa]

21. Because I think the cheerleading the economy is more offensive

[cboy4]

23. Nobody is going to listen to a word you have to say

with that attitude.

Why should people consider any of your comments when there's an outside chance you don't even know about the subject ... you're just interested in making a general comment, most likely taken out of context?

There's nothing wrong with your position, but the presentation is very deceptive and harmful to your credibility .. if that's at all important to you.

[liberal N proud]

9. For gods sake...

First he wasn't positive enough telling us how bad it was and going to get worse, now we are all pissy about him talking positive.

The man is wrong no matter what he says or does. He is screwed with the American people no matter what.

[islandmkl]

10. 40 years....

ahh, yes...the Moses Depression....

[Uzybone]

20. LOL.

[geek tragedy]

11. More poutrage. n/t

[mudesi]

22. When The Hell Has He Cheerleaded The Economy?

I must have missed something.

[kid a]

24. I think you just quoted his "very long time" staement from last night.

[RB TexLa]

25. I did not turn my television on last night.

[LanternWaste]

26. you can of course supply us with...

You can of course supply us with the relevant quotes in which he directly implied that the economy *wouldn't* take a long time to recover, yes...?

And in this context, what your precise definition (without vague pre-qualifiers) of "cheerleading"?

[RB TexLa]

27. So far Joe Biden is the only person in the administration to admit the stimulus package could fail

to work. And the president laughed it off when asked about it. He literally laughed it off.

[LanternWaste]

28. Any relevant quotes...?

Any relevant quotes implying the recovery would be piece of cake?

And again, what is your precise definition of cheerleading in this context?

[RB TexLa]

29. "laughter" President Obama when asked about the VP saying there is a chance

the stimulus could fail.


there.

[LanternWaste]

30. And we know that the laughter was directed...

And we know that the laughter was directed at and only at a direct reference to the time frame of recovery because...?

And your relevant definition of cheerleader in this context is...?




However, before we continue, I'm merely asking for relevant quotes. If you cannot or will not supply them, I completely understand. However if that is indeed the case, there's no reason to waste your time or mine in answering questions not posed and not answering the questions that are.

I absolutely understand that we all interpret and infer statements from others in ways that better validate our particular belief systems and of what may or may not said. Which is why I merely asked for direct and relevant quotes-- so that we may better suppress our own interpretation, and in doing so, better understand what is actually being said.