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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 11:01 AM
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Casino on fire in Joliet, Illinois
Edited on Fri Mar-20-09 11:17 AM by malaise
Damn look at this.

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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 11:04 AM
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1. I can see video on CNN.com, but no audio,
are there people inside?
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 11:04 AM
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2. oh no, wherever will the working class throw away their money now?
too bad they all don't spontaneously combust.
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Tammie Donating Member (361 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 11:07 AM
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3. The casino is in Joliet, Illinois
Just being reported as Breaking News on local stations. The casino has been evacuated.

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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 11:08 AM
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4. I was going to say - I just got back from New Orleans and I sure don't remember that casino
Edited on Fri Mar-20-09 11:08 AM by proud2BlibKansan
I thought we had visited every casino in LA. LOL
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 11:13 AM
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5. Look at what? Is that a Marley? n/t
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 11:15 AM
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6. LOL
My bad I thought I heard Louisiana.
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 11:32 AM
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7. Chicago Sun-Times article on the fire
http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/1487502,w-fire-casino-empress-joliet-032009.article

Two-alarm blaze. No injuries reported so far, which is good. The fire started in a section which was under construction--lots of flammables such as sawdust, paints, solvents and construction adhesives in an area under construction.

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I'm going to make a wild stab here and say there are three possible causes of this fire.

Cause 1: arson for insurance fraud. In this economy I wouldn't be expanding my casino.

Cause 2: spontaneous combustion. The facility probably has oiled wood or varnished wood trims--handrails, mouldings, doors. Linseed oil and some varnishes heat up as they dry, and if someone were to wipe up some oil with a cloth, or apply oil with a cloth, then crumple up the cloth and throw it aside, the heat produced by the oil drying is enough to ignite the rag. Before people knew to watch out for this, it happened a lot. Nowadays, not so much; we know to put oil-soaked rags in water now.

Cause 3: the roof. There's a roofing system called "APP Modified Bitumen" that's applied by heating it with a torch. Highly trained and experienced professional roofers don't set buildings on fire doing this. Guys you pick up in front of Home Depot to swing hammers for $8 per hour are not highly trained and experienced professional roofers. If they're using day labor to build this place and they're using APP roofing--a very common commercial roofing system because if it's installed properly it gives the best performance of any system in its price range--it's possible. A lot of church fires have been caused by this system--parishioners who haven't roofed commercial buildings attempt to install an APP roof because it's less expensive than anything else and end up burning the church down.

If we assume the guy didn't burn the place down for the money, I'm going with spontaneous combustion.
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 11:36 AM
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8. I'll go with 3
sometimes "highly-trained and experienced" contractors DO set their almost-completed buildings on fire.

bitumen roofs, electrical, hardwood floor finishes, etc...

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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 12:40 PM
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9. The worst one I ever heard of...
I don't have a link for it--someone had cut the story out of the paper and hung it on the breakroom wall...

A team of carpenters had finished closing in a house the day before Thanksgiving, and they decided to celebrate by having a party at the jobsite. Someone went to Lowe's and bought a turkey fryer, and they started frying up a turkey in the garage. One thing led to another (read: one beer led to another) and they wound up burning the unfinished structure to the ground.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 12:58 PM
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10. I'd Vote for #1
There is always an increase in suspicious fires when the economy goes kablooey.

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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-20-09 01:13 PM
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11. Insert AIG joke here....nt
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