All I can say is, Damn. "Man decapitates 5-year-old sister in front of officer'

[Fuzz]

Wish I hadn't read this story.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/03/31/sibling.stabbings/index.html

By the time the police officer kicked the door in, it was too late. Kerby Revelus was holding his 5-year-old sister, Bianca, and while the officer watched, he dragged a kitchen knife across her throat with such fury that he decapitated her.

[MadMaddie]

1. Just Horrible!

They showed the footage of the mother arriving on the scene and she fell out, just finding out that her son killed two of her daughters and seriously injured the 3rd daughter.

Just terrible, and the cops are traumatized after witnessing this brutality...

[Maven]

2. OMG. I don't even want to believe human beings are capable of this.

But it's true.

:cry:

[derby378]

3. self-delete

I may have bitten off more than I can chew. Nothing to see here, move along...

[Fuzz]

4. This shit can't be blamed on any leader, it's serious mental illness and

seriously fucked up.

[EFerrari]

6. His onset looks to have been while he was still in jail

and nobody noticed? Very seriously and dangerously f#cked up.

[Catherine Vincent]

5. This has nothing to do with GWB either

The young man that did this was seriously not right in the head and didn't get the help that he desperately needed. :(

[derby378]

8. That's my point

People who are this fucked up need the government to step in and intervene, but the previous administration had a history of throwing our physical and mental health security to the wolves.

A sane society would normally work to prevent tragedies like this from happening.

I don't know. I'm just stunned by the sheer barbarism and depravity of it all.

[EFerrari]

9. It does, though, in the sense that privatizing everything including our prisons

gave everyone less of a stake in the community. Privatize the prisons, diminish oversight and you have a schizophrenic young man released, untreated, back into his neighborhood.

If anyone is a poster boy for George Bush's America, it was this kid.

[Catch22Dem]

10. Are you fucking stoned? Seriously?

Bad presidents don't GIVE you a serious mental fucking illness.

[Iris]

11. but their policies can make serious mental fucking illnesses even more burdensome to those who

suffer from them AND their families and the communities around them

[EFerrari]

14. Howard Dean said we pay for universal health care, we just don't get it

AND THIS CASE is the horrible proof of what he said.

[Iris]

36. dead on.

[EFerrari]

12. Can you read? Seriously? This kid was in jail. In other words,

when his onset happened, he was in a place where he was monitored 24 HOURS A DAY. There was no reason in the world why he was released UNTREATED back into the community except that in privatized BushWorld, that's how things work.

Because in BushWorld, our infrastructure was to benefit his pals, not our people. So, no I'm not stoned. Are you?

Edit: language and civility

[Catch22Dem]

19. ...

:eyes:

[EFerrari]

21. How do you think prisons get mental health care units that actually work?

From the cabbage patch? No. It has to be POLICY and they have to be FUNDED or people get DEAD just like this guy. Ask Cheney about the privatization of our prison system. Christ.

[northernlights]

48. my A&P professor was a nurse at a mental hospital

during the Reagan years when he closed them down. All those poor, psychotic people were just thrown out into the streets to fend for themselves.

She told us about one patient in particular. A young girl who was an identical twin, with apparently nothing wrong with her. Except that for no rational or understandable reason, her parents chose to leave her locked in a closet 24x7, crapping on herself and having food shoved in the door at her, while they raised her twin sister "normally." Then she ended up at the hospital where the nurses did what they could to socialize her -- she had no education, zero language skills, zero social skills. Had just spent years locked alone in a closet. Her mother and twin sister used to visit her weekly.

She was one of the ones thrown out. The professor always wondered what became of her...what became of them all.

And you seriously don't think presidential policy impacts the mentally ill or society? Amazing...:eyes: indeed.

[Catch22Dem]

49. Not what I said

I said presidents don't MAKE you mentally ill.

[leftchick]

30. have you forgotten reagan's legacy regarding mental illness?

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2004/06/09/BUGBI72U8Q1.DTL

When homelessness first became a national issue, however, the Reagan administration all but turned a blind eye to the problem. Federal expenditures for low-cost housing plunged during Reagan's watch from $32 billion in 1981 to just $7 billion in 1987.

At the same time, funding was slashed for a variety of social services, including public health, drug rehab and food stamps -- programs that were relied upon by the thousands of mentally ill people who'd been released from state facilities as a cost-cutting move.

Reagan was asked in a 1988 interview, shortly before Christmas, what he thought of the homeless people sleeping just across the street from the White House in Lafayette Park.

"There are always going to be people," he replied. "They make it their own choice for staying out there."

A couple of years later, Reagan's daughter, Patti Davis, commented on her fear that she might be recognized by a homeless person while out jogging.

"What would I say if I were asked why I didn't talk to my father, or argue with him, about this national tragedy?" she wrote in Parade magazine. "How do you argue with someone who states that the people who are sleeping on the streets of America 'are homeless by choice?' "

[Echo In Light]

50. While I agree, I'd have to say getting stoned doesn't make people think such things either

[Catch22Dem]

51. True. I have no issues with folks getting stoned. LOL

:D

[Echo In Light]

52. (haha) I didn't think you meant it literally

[Xenotime]

34. The lack of help is something that * didn't provide.

So, yes the blood is on his hands.

I only hope Obama passes universal health care so that those who are suffering can get the treatment they need and other needless acts of horror don't ever have to happen again.

[JANdad]

7. Oh for fuck sakes....

Don't even go there!

You make this site look assinine with statments like this...

[BlooInBloo]

13. Sigh. RIP.

[Catherine Vincent]

15. My opinion but this guy's mother probably knew her son had mental issues

But she probably never realized it would go that far and probably couldn't afford to get him some help. No person in their right mind would do something like that out of the blue. The family got clues but unfortunately ignored them.

[EFerrari]

17. Not really. He was 23 and his neighbors say he acted differently

when he got out of jail. 23 is about the age that young people come down with schizophrenia. There is no reason to finger the mother or the family at all.

[LisaL]

39. He did have a police record.

"As the family searched for solace, court records revealed yesterday that the son, Kerby 23, had been arrested four times in the last five years - a more extensive criminal record than had previously been reported.

On Sept. 9, 2004, he was arrested at the family home after he punched his eldest sister, Jessica, during an argument about a phone bill."




http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2009/03/31/brother_had_been_violent_with_a_sibling_in_the_past/

[EFerrari]

43. Yes, he did. And that's why he was in jail. But when you look at

the stuff he did to land there, it's different. Thuggish and sort of violent and he sounds like a mean jack ass. But what the family says is "no one was ever afraid of him". So, something changed as the neighbor says. Just because he developed something like schizophrenia (?) doesn't mean he wasn't a mean kid to begin with.

I don't know. One of my cousins who is not a mean jack ass had his onset at about the same time. There was no warning at all with him, nada. But, there can be a lot of variation. That poor mother must be destroyed right now. :(

[marshall]

41. Reminds me of the woman in Texas who killed her 5 children

The husband had to have known the chileren were not safe. And if the prison should have known the man was a danger, surely the parents would have to have known too. I can't imageine having children in harm's way like this.

[Lance_Boyle]

47. guy had a record, family had money

family protected him too much for too long, and suffered for it. Altogether rather Amityville Horror, actually.

[L0oniX]

16. Time to ban kitchen knives!

:eyes:

[mudesi]

18. Jesus. You Fuckers Are Cold

[dmallind]

23. Actually that took longer

than any thread I have seen where a gun was used to kill somebody to result in a call for banning. And usually those are serious calls too. And almost never get people calling them cold for so doing.

[polmaven]

42. There is a very big difference

between calling for stricter gun control, and "ban kitchen knives". I'm betting that poster is a supporter of less/no gun controls, and is simply using this as another of the ridiculous wiseass statements used so often to compare the two.

Yes...it was a very cold statement.

[dmallind]

45. Really? How so?

Why is banning one tool different from banning another? Why is it OK to capitalize on the murders that use tool A to advocate banning them and cold and unforgivable to capitalize on those that use tool B to call for banning those, or even as you (probably correctly) suggest, to capitalize on the event by implying the futility of banning any tool used to kill somebody?

[polmaven]

46. The difference is that

a gun is not a "tool" it is a weapon. Kitchen knives are not produced solely for the purpose of injuring or killing. Guns are. How clear does it have to be?

[varkam]

25. Congratulations. eom

[Xenotime]

33. Haven't they done that in the UK and with good success.

Perhaps you should be licensed to use a large knife to keep them out of the hands of criminals.

[firedupdem]

20. That is just horrible. There are no words..

:cry: :cry:

[WePurrsevere]

22. It was the 5 yr old's birthday too. This is just a horrible and sad story...

my heart goes out to the mother, the surviving sister and the police that will never be the same now.

Even as a mother I can't even begin imagine how that poor mother feels. Losing a child is difficult and heart breaking (BTDT) but to lose them this way and by the hand of one of your other children.... God/dess I can't even wrap my mind around the kind of horrendous pain and grief she must be feeling.

[lonestarnot]

24. He should never see the sun or the moon again in his life. Not ever again!

[crazyjoe]

37. he won't , the cops killed him

[aikoaiko]

26. This would have been a good time for shoot first, ask questions later.

Those police must have been in shock to have not pulled their triggers.

[Xenotime]

35. No. That's wrong. There is never a good time to shoot.

[LisaL]

38. WTF are you talking about? Are you saying it's not a good time

to shoot to save innocent child's life? They had to shoot and kill him anyway.

[aikoaiko]

40. I disagree with you. Shooting someone to stop them from hurting someone else is morally and legally

...justified.

[EFerrari]

44. The article says he had just killed the little one when they went in.

That's probably why the cops are wrecked -- because they just missed stopping him.

[Blue_Tires]

27. people are even getting crazier

because i'm seeing people slaughter their own family members with regularity...here in Virginia Beach last month a man took a kitchen knife and sliced off his 5-year-old son's head and stabbed his wife (the wife lived)...Said he was trying to 'save their souls'

[Blue_Tires]

28. people are even getting crazier

because i'm seeing people slaughter their own family members with regularity...here in Virginia Beach last month a man took a kitchen knife and sliced off his 5-year-old son's head and stabbed his wife (the wife lived)...Said he was trying to 'save their souls'

[AllieB]

29. It sounds like the kid had schizophrenia

as someone said above, he was about the age of onset. Neighbors said he was wandering around talking to himseld after he got out of prison. Our state (MA) cut the mental health budget, and this is one of the results.

[nonconformist]

31. Here is a Youtube clip of high school friends of the 17 year old talking about her

She sounded like a great kid.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYypjjsCbGY&feature=related

This story is beyond tragic and horrifying. Those poor, poor girls. Police say there was a birthday cake with 5 candles on the kitchen table. They were to celebrate Bianca's birthday that day.

[Ilsa]

32. How horrible. And there are wingnuts that would have us believe that

this only happens in Arab countries. That poor family.