today i visited what was once the world trade center.....

[spanone]

....nearly eight years later

[tekisui]

1. What a touching memorial.

:-(

[spanone]

3. it was beyond words

[Canuckistanian]

6. Inspirational

It inspired me to...... wonder WTF 9/11 REALLY means to Americans.

[notesdev]

12. it's a national disgrace, that's what it is

we were attacked and 8 years later the hole in the ground is still there? In prime Manhattan real estate? With how many billions already spent? And now when might it ever get rebuilt, when so few companies are looking for new office space?

Is this how we honor the dead?

[MorningGlow]

2. Heck of a job, Georgie

:eyes:

[Mz Pip]

4. Are there still people hanging around

hawking 9/11 memorabilia? That's what I remember from the last time I was there a couple of years ago. It was kind of creepy.

[spanone]

5. didn't see anything like that..they were giving tours

[aquart]

7. WTF did you expect to see? It's ditch, honey. The buildings FELL.

Did nobody tell you to visit St. Paul's? That's where New Yorkers go when we're in the area. THAT's where the memorial is. Right across the street on Church. But you were too busy being smirky and smug to visit the beds of the volunteers.

[Bluebear]

13. "It's ditch, honey"? So there's to be NO memorial there?

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[ima_sinnic]

22. LOL!

:thumbsup:

[sam sarrha]

8. Condie lied, she didnt give W the Nat Security Briefings, she gave them to Scooter Libby who gave

them to Chaney,.. and the Title of the paper was actually.. "Osama Bin Laden determined to attack within the United States... "Within Weeks Or Days".. there were at least a dozen of those within the previous 3 weeks, and 52 warnings in the previous 3 months from foreign security agencies. and they knew they were going to use planes..

they let it happen..!!!

[Fire1]

11. But....but.... they didn't believe it!

[applegrove]

9. That must have been emotion filled. I think I'd blubber if I was there.

[spanone]

16. after the years of seeing it on television , it made it real in an different way

it was very emotional....

[applegrove]

23. I remember seeing a documentary about people visiting ground zero.

This was in the months just after. The producers of the show dressed up two people as muslims and sent them to ground zero to see what the reaction would be. People came up to them and said "are you okay? are you being left alone?". I cried and cried.

[Tangerine LaBamba]

10. Nothing is sacred .........

My editor told me of visiting the site a couple of weeks after 9/11. She and her husband stood there, while someone was delivering an impromptu tribute to the people who had died there, and then she looked to her right and a homeless guy was taking a leak on some rubble.

Life goes on .................

[abbeyco]

14. Before construction started

it was one of the most quiet places I've ever been in NYC. Not a gum wrapper or any kind of trash was around the place.

I walked all around it - as much as allowed as a tourist, but there was a reverent, quiet hush over the blocks surrounding the place.

I think a re-do of the towers is fine, but I'm not a NY'er and don't have a dog in the fight. I did like the respect the reverence that the visitors gave to the entire place.

[Poiuyt]

17. I think that putting up commercial office buildings here is blasphemous

If they want a memorial, they should have a park or a monument of some sort.

[Golden Raisin]

18. I ride the "E" Train to work every

day. The train's former ultimate destination is still posted in each car and the conductors still announce, "E to World Trade". There's more NYC and USA pride in that than the unfortunate morass of disorganization, politics, greed and glacial pace downtown at the site. Most New Yorkers I know have no use for the "Freedom Tower" and would have preferred if the Towers were rebuilt as they were, but with one extra "fuck you" floor added on top.

[Posteritatis]

19. I'm picturing the elevators numbered accordingly

"105.. 106.. 107.. fuckyou.. roof.."

[dysfunctional press]

20. just the name "freedom tower" is bad enough...

why must EVERYTHING always be about platitudes to the lowest common denominator?

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

21. I just heard the other day that Freedom Tower was out (yes!) and it's just going to be One World

Trade Center.

[Generator]

24. Here you go!

Goodbye freedom! YEAH.

http://edition.cnn.com/2009/US/03/27/no.freedom.tower/

NEW YORK (CNN) -- The agency that owns the space where the World Trade Center towers stood is freeing itself of the term "freedom" to describe the signature skyscraper replacing the buildings destroyed on September 11, 2001.


The One World Trade Center skyscraper is expected to be completed in late 2013.

The change from Freedom Tower was revealed Thursday at a news conference where the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey announced the signing of the first commercial lease in the building to a Chinese company. The building is expected to be completed in late 2013.

"We've referred to the primary building planned for the site as One World Trade Center -- its legal name and street address -- for almost two years now, as well as using the name the Freedom Tower," said Stephen Sigmund, a spokesman for the Port Authority, in a statement released to CNN. "Many will always refer to it as the Freedom Tower, but as the building moves out of the planning stage and into full construction and leasing, we believe that going forward it is most practical to market the building as One World Trade Center."

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

25. Thanks for the link! Another blow to Bush newspeak.

:hi: