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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-01-09 08:20 AM
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Holder horrified about Stevens case but what about GOV DON SIEGELMAN's CASE?
Edited on Wed Apr-01-09 08:21 AM by mod mom
52 former AG's signed a letter regarding this political conviction, what about this case AG Holder? How Gov Siegelman was treated has really horrified me! Although there may be prosecutorial misconduct in Stevens case, retry him-he is guilty. If you want to bring real justice to a prominent case, look into the Siegelman conviction!



August 3, 11:16 AM, 2007 ·
Judge Fuller and the Trial of Don Siegelman
By Scott Horton

In the American criminal justice system, in a case presented to a jury, the trial judge is less a searcher in pursuit of truth than a referee. As long experience has shown me, it is a myth that the two forces—prosecution and defense—are equally matched. Not only does the prosecution have greater resources and influence, but the typical juror is likely to view the prosecutor as a public servant crusading for the truth and the defense counsel as a gun for hire.

It’s the responsibility of a judge to ensure balanced and fair combat between the prosecution and the defense, guiding and protecting the jurors from outside and improper influences. A good judge will not only make sure that a balance exists in the courtroom, but will pare back inflated charges, or charges for which there is not enough evidence.

Given these standards of judicial conduct, we can ask: in the case against Don Siegelman, did Mark Fuller perform the essential functions that the citizens expect of a federal judge?

Five Unasked Questions
I can see five major questions that should have been asked before the trial began.

The first question was whether it was appropriate for Judge Fuller to handle the case given his highly partisan political past coupled with his clash with the Siegelman administration over the “salary spiking” case in Coffee County.

-snip

http://www.harpers.org/archive/2007/08/hbc-90000714

Did Ex-Alabama Governor Get A Raw Deal?

60 Minutes Reports On Bribery Conviction Of Don Siegelman In A Case Criticized by Democrats And Republicans

(CBS) Is Don Siegelman in prison because he’s a criminal or because he belonged to the wrong political party in Alabama? Siegelman is the former governor of Alabama, and he was the most successful Democrat in that Republican state. But while he was governor, the U.S. Justice Department launched multiple investigations that went on year after year until, finally, a jury convicted Siegelman of bribery.

Now, many Democrats and Republicans have become suspicious of the Justice Department’s motivations. As correspondent Scott Pelley reports, 52 former state attorneys-general have asked Congress to investigate whether the prosecution of Siegelman was pursued not because of a crime but because of politics.

-snip

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/02/21/60minutes/main3859830.shtml

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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-01-09 08:27 AM
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1. Justice for Siegelman wouldn't be bipartisan and may be seen...
as a Democrat getting a Democrat off.

Sorry, Don.
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-01-09 09:25 AM
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2. Well, we will soon see if Holder means what he says.
If prosecutorial misconduct will not be tolerated, he will go after Siegelman's prosecutors. If he doesn't do so, then Holder is a hypocrite.
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dmr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-01-09 02:28 PM
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5. My first thought this morning is that Holder is giving to a Republican
to ease the way to free Siegelman. It makes it less partisan.

There is no way that Holder cannot see the major conflicts and major abuses Rove and his US Attorneys inflicted upon Gov. Siegelman - before, during and after the trial.

I'm hoping to find these assholes punished and disbarred.

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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-01-09 02:57 PM
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8. Siegelman's case is the more glaring example of dis-justice, which is why
Holder's selectivity toward Stevens just highlights the good ol' boy network exists.

Why has there been nothing said about Siegelman?
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-01-09 11:57 AM
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3. Josh Marshall commented on this as well:
Prosecutorial Discretion
04.01.09 -- 12:04PM By Josh Marshall

Whatsoever some might think, given that I'm the one who created this site, I actually end up being a pretty big softie when it comes to the punishment side of these corruption stories. And in that vein, I think Eric Holder's decision to abandon the Stevens prosecution is a good idea when you put the full context in view.

Stevens is 85 years old. He was tried and convicted. He lost his senate seat and ended his 40+ career in disgrace. Whatever the prosecutors did wrong -- and it seems like they did a lot wrong, which we'll get to in a minute -- that doesn't erase the fact that Stevens got a freebie home renovation from a wealthy contributor whose interests Stevens repeatedly and habitually service in Washington.

In this case, though, the prosecutorial misconduct appears to be of a non-trivial sort. So given his age, the disgrace he's already suffered and the fact that future prosecution may be fatally undermined by the earlier prosecutorial wrongdoing, setting this whole effort aside makes sense. At least that's how it seems to me on first blush.

And as long as we're all in a generous mood, how about we get some justice for former Gov. Don Siegelman and those crook US Attorneys who sent him to the slammer on politically-trumped up charges probably ginned up by Karl Rove and his Alabama pals? And maybe some attention to reform of our national prison system Sen. Webb is pushing, because disgraced senators aren't the only ones who need some wise exercise of mercy in the administration of justice. And our incarceration policies are a disgrace in themselves.

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2009/04/prosecutorial_discretion.php
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-01-09 12:59 PM
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4. I was just thinking about that very same thing. Thanks for posting.
Yes, indeed, what about Siegelman.
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Kaleko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-01-09 02:39 PM
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6. Exactly. What about Don?
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-01-09 02:53 PM
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7. In the Obama admin consideration is only given to GOPers, New Dems and Blue Dogs

The rest of us are to be ignored. We will support Obama no matter what. Siegelman falls into this category.
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newtothegame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-01-09 03:03 PM
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9. Where was the thing about Holder being :horrified?" n/t
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-01-09 10:29 PM
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10. Step 1. Nullify the prosecutorial misconduct on a high-profile case against a
Republican ex-(thank Dawg)Senator.

Step 2. Express (highly publicized) indignation at the injustice done in the case.

Step 3. Now that the decks are cleared, aim the guns of justice at other worthy targets like Siegelman and others.


I'm being hopeful here, y'all.

It could happen.

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ConsAreLiars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 12:29 AM
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11. This was Step #1 in undoing the corrupt and illegal actions of the Chimpy appointees, and then
doing two more things. First, nullifying the sentences of those illegally prosecuted, starting with the one case the Cons will find hard to gripe about. And then, after the pattern of wrongdoing is established, taking down the real criminals, those appointed to positions as prosecutors and judges who committed the real crimes.

Based on what I know about Holder, I (like to) believe this is the case. At least, I hope so. Time will tell.
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 02:41 AM
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12. K&R! Damn good question!
:grr:

And an excellent post! :applause:
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 09:27 AM
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13. Wow, what next....Obama pardons Libby??? nm
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 01:05 PM
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14. WASF. nt
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