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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-01-09 05:17 PM
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Amy Goodman: What countries, Sy Hersh -- what countries are they operating in?- Hersh: "A lot"
Amy Goodman: What countries, Sy Hersh -- what countries are they operating in?

Seymour Hersh: A lot of countries.

Amy Goodman: Name some.

Seymour Hersh: No, because I haven't written about it, Amy. And I will tell you, as I say, in Central America, it's far more than just the areas that Mr. Hannah talked about -- Afghanistan, Iraq. You can understand an operation like this in the heat of battle in Iraq, killing, I mean, taking out enemy. That's war. But when you go into other countries -- let's say Yemen, let's say Peru, let's say Colombia, let's say Eritrea, let's say Madagascar, let's say Kenya, countries like that -- and kill people who are believed on a list to be al-Qaeda or al-Qaeda-linked or anti-American, you're violating most of the tenets.

We're a country that believes very much in due process. That's what it's all about. We don't give the President of United States the right to tell military people, even in a war -- and it's a war against an idea, war against terrorism. It's not as if we're at war against a committed uniformed enemy. It's a very complicated war we're in. And with each of those actions, of course, there's always collateral deaths, and there's always more people ending up becoming our enemies. That's the tragedy of Guantanamo. By the time people, whether they were with us or against us when they got there, by the time they've been there three or four months, they're dangerous to us, because of the way they've been treated

more at:
http://www.alternet.org/rights/134347/seymour_hersh%3A_secret_u.s._forces_carried_out_assassinations_in_%27a_lot_of%27_countries%2C_including_in_latin_america/
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-01-09 05:23 PM
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1. *cough*Allende*cough*
It ain't new.

Feel free to add to the list.
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-01-09 05:30 PM
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2. Lol..
Good one! No, it ain't new at all. :banghead:
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vinylsolution Donating Member (807 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-01-09 05:36 PM
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3. They're operating here, too....
.... Seymour Hersh should also investigate suspicious deaths closer to home.

Never forget Paul Wellstone, Bruce Ivins, Mel Carnahan, Jeanne Palfrey, Mike McConnell, etc.

Also the attempted murders of Tom Daschle and Patrick Leahy.




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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-01-09 05:58 PM
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5. Whoa..."attempted murders"???..I thought I was up on things.
More info, please.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-01-09 06:13 PM
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7. They were recipients of the anthrax mailings
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-01-09 07:09 PM
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11. ohh... of course...my memory...thanks.
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mackdaddy Donating Member (177 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-01-09 06:14 PM
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8. Anthrax..
Sent to the only two Senators who could have stopped the Patriot act. But only killed a few postal workers.. (and the tabloid writer).
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-01-09 08:18 PM
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13. a tabloid photo editor, i thought
the one that ran the pic of the bush girls on the bar room floor. iirc.
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pokercat999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-01-09 05:48 PM
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4. Mr. Hersh, Ms. Goodman, did you ever consider:
"And with each of those actions, of course, there's always collateral deaths, and there's always more people ending up becoming our enemies. That's the tragedy of Guantanamo. By the time people, whether they were with us or against us when they got there, by the time they've been there three or four months, they're dangerous to us, because of the way they've been treated"

That the above was EXACTLY what Bush Co and the neo-cons wanted. They needed and still want a never ending war. They figured (wrongly) that they (the neo-cons) could remain in power forever by scaring the American people witless. To do this they needed a perpetual enemy that had good reason to want to kill us. They had to KNOW that treated horribly enough even peaceful, respectful, faithful, Allah fearing muslims would go crazy with hate when they heard about and saw the results of gitomo and abu-grabh. When your relative is arrested detained and tortured by not only painful, life threating methods but by what they consider to be the most humiliating treatment possible the result had to be certain, even to the most obtuse.

These criminal actions had to be deliberate and willful. Bush, Cheney most of their administration and ANYONE else that want along to get along (I'll vote for what you want if you vote for mine) needs to be investigated, prosecuted and punished in a WORLD court as the US Justice Department apparently will not do their duty. Most likely because they and their friends are hip deep in the slime with the re-thugs.
Add to that world-wide murder squads sent by the same people that locked up so many innocents and you have the unthinkable, the US acting like, like, well, like Saddam Hussein.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-01-09 06:19 PM
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9. Like Saddam, only on a much, much bigger scale, and a media apparatus to convince the public mind...
...otherwise (it only looks like what it actually is to those "crazy conspiracy theorists!")
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sattahipdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-01-09 06:08 PM
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6. let's say Manhattan 'deep dive'
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-01-09 06:40 PM
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10. he won't name countries, but gives many "examples"
interesting

Amy Goodman: Name some.

Seymour Hersh: No, because I haven't written about it, Amy. And I will tell you, as I say, in Central America, it's far more than just the areas that Mr. Hannah talked about -- Afghanistan, Iraq. You can understand an operation like this in the heat of battle in Iraq, killing, I mean, taking out enemy. That's war. But when you go into other countries -- let's say Yemen, let's say Peru, let's say Colombia, let's say Eritrea, let's say Madagascar, let's say Kenya, countries like that --
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-01-09 08:12 PM
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12. i listened to this twice today to make sure i heard him right -- he says 'i'm not saying,' then
he completely says what he said he wouldn't say. i loved it.

and, aren't these the usual suspects... there's a lot to be understood by simply reading the political history of these countries.
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