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Karmadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-01-09 09:21 PM
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Is it the policy of the United States government to provoke violent extremist groups into action?
Chris Floyd claims that's the case. He further suggests this is what the Obama administration is trying to do with its escalation in Afghanistan. If so, this would be another instance where we're not getting the change many of us were hoping for when the Republicans were sent packing last November. We have the Obama/Geithner bailout scam at home and what appears to be a continuation of machtpolitik abroad. As many here have pointed out, we're only a few months into the Obama presidency, but even so, these developments are genuine cause for alarm.

http://www.chris-floyd.com/component/content/article/3/...

Darkness Renewed: Terror as a Tool of Empire

Here's a purely hypothetical scenario. Let's say you were a dedicated imperial militarist who believed that your country's security, prestige and financial interests could best be served by war and the ever-present threat of war. Let's say you had some really hot and juicy operations going on, endless deadly conflicts that were pouring hundreds of billions of dollars into your war machine and entrenching national policy even more deeply in the militarist philosophy – the machtpolitik – that you believe in.

But there's a problem. The general public – the cow-like herd out there that doesn't understand grand strategy the way you and your fellow elites do – is growing weary, and wary, of your Long War. The national treasury is bankrupt, the national infrastructure is rotting, the nation's communities are dying; millions of people are out of work, losing their homes, losing their dreams, spiraling down into want, privation and despair. Yet you have big plans to escalate the war, expand your war machine, and maintain the global dominance that you believe is the right and natural role for your special nation – and its elites. What to do? How to galvanize the truculent, self-absorbed herd into enthusiastically supporting your vital agenda once more?

Well, here's one purely hypothetical approach you might try. You goad and provoke violent extremist groups into retaliating against your attacks, your civilian-slaughtering invasions and incursions into their territory. Being unable to confront directly your war machine – the largest, most advanced military force in the history of the world, sustained by a tsunami of public money that each year surpasses the military spending of the rest of the world – they naturally respond with "asymmetrical" operations. At first, these are directed at nearby targets: your supply lines, the forces of your local proxies and allies, and other chaos-inducing depredations in the groups' own regions, designed to foul the lines of your control and drive you out. Just as naturally, you use these attacks to justify an even greater military presence in their regions. The cycle inevitably, inexorably ratchets upwards and outwards, until at last the extremists strike at your homeland – either with your connivance, or your covert acquiescence, or, in any event, with your foreknowledge that such an attack was sure to come. This is the moment you have waited for; this is exactly what you wanted. Now you can whip the herd back into a martial frenzy, keep the Long War going, and push aside the rabble's petty, small-minded desires for a peaceful, prosperous life at home, minding their own business.

One never knows exactly what goes on behind the imperial drapery in the Potomac palaces, of course; ordinary American citizens were long ago turned into Kremlinologists of their own government, trying to discern -- through ceremonial signs, backstairs gossip, and slight deviations in ritualized rhetoric -- just what their masters are really up to. But some cynics darkly suspect that scenarios something like the one sketched out above have already been enacted; for instance, in the "new Pearl Harbor" that struck America on September 11, 2001 – one year after a group channeling the views of future Bush Administration bigwigs (including Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Scooter Libby and many others) had openly pined for a "new Pear Harbor" to "catalyze" the American people into supporting their militarist agenda, which included an invasion of Iraq – whether Saddam Hussein was in power or not.

But leaving aside for now the ever-thorny matter of divining the varying proportion of connivance, acquiescence, foreknowledge, exploitation, incompetence and fate involved in 9/11, we can say this as an established fact: It is the policy of the United States government to provoke violent extremist groups into action. Once they are in play, their responses can then be used in whatever way the government that provoked them sees fit. And we also know that these provocations are being used, as a matter of deliberate policy, to rouse violent groups on the "Af-Pak" front to launch terrorist attacks.

In other words, just as I first wrote in the Moscow Times more than six years ago (and followed up three years later), the United States is deliberately fomenting terrorist attacks in order to pursue its political and military agendas.

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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-01-09 09:23 PM
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1. Sure it is. Please. BOO! nt
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-01-09 09:32 PM
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2. Divide and Conquer...

This was written by Steve Kangas who was found dead in the bathroom of the offices of Richard Mellon Scaife, on the 39th floor in 1999. His death was ruled a suicide..he was shot twice in the head.
A Timeline of CIA Atrocities

By Steve Kangas

http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/CIAtimeline.html

The following timeline describes just a few of the hundreds of atrocities and crimes committed by the CIA. (1)

CIA operations follow the same recurring script. First, American business interests abroad are threatened by a popular or democratically elected leader. The people support their leader because he intends to conduct land reform, strengthen unions, redistribute wealth, nationalize foreign-owned industry, and regulate business to protect workers, consumers and the environment. So, on behalf of American business, and often with their help, the CIA mobilizes the opposition. First it identifies right-wing groups within the country (usually the military), and offers them a deal: "We'll put you in power if you maintain a favorable business climate for us." The Agency then hires, trains and works with them to overthrow the existing government (usually a democracy). It uses every trick in the book: propaganda, stuffed ballot boxes, purchased elections, extortion, blackmail, sexual intrigue, false stories about opponents in the local media, infiltration and disruption of opposing political parties, kidnapping, beating, torture, intimidation, economic sabotage, death squads and even assassination. These efforts culminate in a military coup, which installs a right-wing dictator. The CIA trains the dictator’s security apparatus to crack down on the traditional enemies of big business, using interrogation, torture and murder. The victims are said to be "communists," but almost always they are just peasants, liberals, moderates, labor union leaders, political opponents and advocates of free speech and democracy. Widespread human rights abuses follow.

This scenario has been repeated so many times that the CIA actually teaches it in a special school, the notorious "School of the Americas." (It opened in Panama but later moved to Fort Benning, Georgia.) Critics have nicknamed it the "School of the Dictators" and "School of the Assassins." Here, the CIA trains Latin American military officers how to conduct coups, including the use of interrogation, torture and murder.

The Association for Responsible Dissent estimates that by 1987, 6 million people had died as a result of CIA covert operations. (2) Former State Department official William Blum correctly calls this an "American Holocaust."




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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-01-09 10:25 PM
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5. Or in the case of the MIC, simply fund both sides.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-01-09 10:45 PM
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6. What is MIC?
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No.23 Donating Member (517 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-01-09 10:49 PM
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7. Military Industrial Complex
Of what many "progressives" don't want to touch, as they advocate the social programs that they advocate.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-01-09 11:04 PM
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8. ah..thanks..
never saw it referred to that way. It's amazing how little is discussed about our presence across the globe, and the whole "national security" "defense" industry juggernaut. It's like the elephant in the room. Perhaps because it is all so vague, so secret, so convoluted, so scary.
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No.23 Donating Member (517 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-01-09 11:20 PM
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10. Nah. It may be simpler than that.
It is my personal opinion that many progressives are in the grip of fear.

Which is why they don't want to significantly impact the MIC to pay for more necessary social programs.

Fear is keeping them from taking any large chunks of money from that piggy bank.

That's only my own personal opinion, of course.
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-01-09 10:20 PM
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3. It may not be their "policy" - but they are sure getting good at it
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The next "surge" in Afghanistan ain't gonna win the West any friends among Easterners,

that's a for sure.

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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-01-09 10:24 PM
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4. It's been a cornerstone of our foreign policy since 1947.
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galileoreloaded Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-01-09 11:09 PM
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9. One might argue 1941, when FDR shut off oil to Japan, prompting a response...
Pearl Harbor. Don't take my word for it.....
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Jack Sprat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-01-09 11:43 PM
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11. I know it.
Just can't do anything about it. It takes a toll on any national pride I might have had as a child. Our national policy has been a view of the world as a bone to be chewed. There is a visage of being this powerful protectorate of peace and democracy. Nothing is further from the truth. Our national policy employs coercion at the point of a cannon.
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