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Truth2Tell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-01-09 11:08 PM
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Siegelman: Stevens Case Is Dropped, So Why Not Mine?
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By Zachary Roth - April 1, 2009, 7:04PM

For Don Siegelman, DOJ's decision on Ted Stevens just adds insult to injury.

"There seems to be substantial evidence of prosecutorial and other misconduct in my case, that would dwarf the allegations in the Stevens case," the former Alabama governor told TPMmuckraker in an interview moments ago.

Referring to Attorney General Eric Holder, Siegelman said that while he supports the Stevens decision, "I hope that will take a look at some of the other cases that are buried on his desk."

This morning, the Justice Department announced it was dropping the charges against Stevens, citing prosecutorial misconduct -- specifically, the government's failure to hand over key evidence to the defense. In response, Stevens declared today: "I always knew that there would be a day when the cloud that surrounded me would be removed."

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/04/siegelman_stevens_case_is_dropped_so_why_not_mine.php?ref=fp1">More here...

Extremely good question. Since Eric Holder is so goddamn CONCERNED about prosucetorial misconduct, I assume he will review all kinds of cases across the land. Especially in the south. That's what we should expect, right. :shrug:
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shireen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-01-09 11:10 PM
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1. very good question.
I hope Conyers will wield some influence in this matter. Siegelman's prosecution has been utterly outrageous.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-01-09 11:13 PM
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2. An excellent question
Edited on Wed Apr-01-09 11:13 PM by Canuckistanian
And somewhat more pressing than a corrupt Repub politician taking the usual bribes.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-01-09 11:13 PM
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3. I want an answer to that question!
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chollybocker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-01-09 11:25 PM
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4. Very good question.
Kudos to Zachary Roth for dot-connecting. Will Cheney ever crack open that cyanide capsule?
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No.23 Donating Member (517 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-01-09 11:27 PM
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5. You're not too corrupt to be trialed fairly.
As the banks are too big to be allowed to fail.

These days, if your offense is too big, you'll be given a pass.
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-01-09 11:30 PM
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6. It's unbelievable. Stevens' conviction was thrown out due to prosecutorial misconduct.
Seigelman didn't do anything wrong & he should have been Holder's first priority on the list to be cleared, considering the prosecutorial misconduct & the characters involved. I'm just flabbergasted & outraged.

:mad:
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 09:15 PM
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27. The hope I hold in my heart is that Stevens was done first...
so that the repugs couldnt scream so loudly when he dismisses the charges against the Gov. I am hoping.
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 10:15 PM
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30. Funny, I almost included the same thought when I posted.
It surely did cross my mind that they were using Stevens' case as a forerunner for dismissing Seigelman's trumped-up conviction.

I bet you agree with my disappointment about Seigelman not being first priority. His case screams Repuke corruption.

:toast:
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 08:56 AM
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34. I do agree!
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Believing Is Art Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-01-09 11:32 PM
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7. Given time, I hope his will be dropped
The conspiracy behind the Siegelman case seems a lot more complicated than prosecutorial misconduct and it will probably take a lot longer to sort through it all than it did with Stevens' case.

Also, age was a factor with Stevens. Even if the convictions against Siegelman are overturned, he may face a new trial.

Overturning Stevens' case might also give Holder a better political position from which to overturn Siegelman's. Yeah, it shouldn't be an issue with the justice department, but it is.

Holding my breath.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-01-09 11:35 PM
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-01-09 11:43 PM
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10. Agree. The right thing would be to dismiss charges against Siegelman BEFORE
looking at the Stevens case.
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ben_jenne Donating Member (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-01-09 11:40 PM
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9. Do we know that Holder hasn't reviewed Siegelmans' case
already? It just seems strange that Stevens was decide already and not Siegelman.
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Truth2Tell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-01-09 11:43 PM
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11. The Stevens case is very strange in many ways. nt
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-01-09 11:53 PM
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12. Funny about that.
Wish the Stevens thing was an April Fools.
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 12:33 AM
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13. It's open season on
prosecutorial misconduct.


Also: unconstitutional disruptions of the process whereby the three branches of our federal government provide for the most just and beneficial environment for the conduct of our society.
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spag68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 01:26 AM
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14. Stevens
I'm surprised that all You smart thinkers here have not figured this one out. The republican prosecutor buried things to be discovered later to get the old bastard off on appeal. Do you not remember Oliver North? These law and order types really love those technicalities.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 01:32 AM
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15. I want to know how Stephens pissed off Rove/Cheney
Seriously. Unless, from a political standpoint, Holder is setting up to "re-examine" the Siegelman case and this gives him some cover to do so.

I read on Raw Story that Owens has recused herself, unexpectedly and surprisingly, all of sudden from the Minor case in Mississippi. http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Roveconnected_judge_recuses_self_from_Minor_0401.html It's all tied together in one huge spider web with Rove right in the center of it all.
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Politicalboi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 01:48 AM
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16. He should have done
Siegelman's first.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 02:26 AM
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18. Except this one gives him credibility and cover
He can now move on to Siegelman and a few other cases that were unjustly prosecuted against Democrats solely because they were Democrats.
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 01:51 AM
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17. A prima facia example of Republican Terrorism
left to rot by the complicit 'news' media.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 02:28 AM
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19. So, WHO did Stephens piss off
and WHY (or HOW)?
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 02:42 AM
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20. Use the "advanced search" button and review "Secret Society" and "lukery"s posts
going back over the last year. There is a gold mine of information should you desire to avail yourself.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 03:32 AM
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22. Thanks! Exactly what I was looking for...
I haven't been to DU in a while, but when I come here I know I can find reliable info. There's always more behind the scenes that never gets out as part of the story...at least with the MSM and the short-term memories they seem to think we have. :)
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 10:17 PM
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31. It wasn't about pissing off anyone in the GOP
Stevens was old and used up, he was the sacrificial lamb and his corruption couldn't be covered up. So Gonzales hand picked boy, Welch, and Welch's hand picked deputy, "tried" the case. They made huge blunders, they created grounds for appeal. Bush didn't have to pardon ole Stevens, they knew he would "get off". They tried to show that they hadn't politicized the DOJ, that they would try republicans too. There are tons of folks that Abramoff named as being corrupt in Congress, how many have fallen? Welch and Morris handled that investigation you know.

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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 03:13 AM
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21. I immediately thought the same thing. I hope the Siegelman case gets attention too. nt
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 03:35 AM
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23. First thing I thought of when I heard about the Stevens case.
From what I know of both cases, it seems Seigleman was treated far worse.

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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 04:46 AM
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24. Here's another thread
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 04:59 AM
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25. I think the Stevens decision will quickly pave the way for overturning the
Siegelman prosecution -- and Holder (and the Obama administration) comes out smelling like a rose, with a reputation for fairness and evenhandedness.


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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 09:59 PM
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28. For Mr. Siegelman and his family, I hope this happens soon.
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 09:13 PM
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26. Bravo!! I've been screaming it for two days!!
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tabbycat31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 10:08 PM
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29. excellent question
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 10:53 PM
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32. There is something terribly wrong with
this....Change? What kind of change are we talking about? WASF.

Wake up, People!
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Kat45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-02-09 11:07 PM
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33. I was thinking the same thing. n/t
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