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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 02:13 AM
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is there a dem website for me?
Am a nonunion business owner with 70 employees (most have worked for me for 20 plus years) with terrific benefits, have a permit for a concealed weapon, will get tax increase under Obama but good with it, am for universal health care...but don't feel like there's a place for me on du despite being here from the get go... Are there any business owners here who make over $250k a year on here who want to help people? Am tired of feeling tramped on.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 02:16 AM
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1. DU has a small business forum ...
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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 02:19 AM
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3. awe ... have always been a fan of yours
ColbertWatcher.. thanks for the sweetness
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 02:50 AM
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16. Aww shucks! n/t
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 02:19 AM
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2. tramped on how?
Because most people here don't make even close to $250,000? That's pretty true for the whole country. I used to own a 'business' but I did not even gross $25,000 a year in sales.
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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 02:25 AM
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5. good grief n/t
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 02:30 AM
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9. Probably like that, yes. nt
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 02:48 AM
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15. you think I tramped, or snarked?
By mentioning that I too, was once a businessperson? The OP asked if there were any other businesspeople, and I sorta qualified.
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 02:22 AM
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4. No two of us are the same, medeak, and we're not going to agree on everything.
There's a place for you at DU. :pals:
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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 02:29 AM
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7. you think?
husband has terrible disease but like above am criticized for making dough yet I pay employees $45 an hour...am such a bad person. Sorry...just feeling beat up. There used to be a lot of entrepreneurs in the old days but I don't see them anymore and gawd forbid anyone being a success in this economic climate despite trying to help people?
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 02:34 AM
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10. M'dear, if you earn a good living and provide your employees with the opportunity
to earn a good living and receive good benefits, I'd find it difficult to fault you. As to the entrpreneurial spirit, I do believe it's very difficult for people to get a leg up these days -- maybe that's why you're seeing less of it.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 02:45 AM
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14. you call that criticism?
All I said was that most people don't make nearly that much money. Which part of that is criticism? Who said anything about bad people or bad places? BTW, I was in 'business' for something like 8 years. I put business in quotes, since I never really made my first dollar in net profit.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 02:27 AM
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6. Tramped on how? Serious question, no snarks. nt
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Laurab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 02:30 AM
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8. I feel the same way and just wrote an OP, which I hardly ever do.
This doesn't seem to be a dem website anymore. There must be something else out there, but if not, I know I can find better things to do with my time besides come here and get disgusted and depressed. I've been here since '04, and the Primaries were NOTHING compared to this.

If you do find a website, you should post it on here - I think a lot of people are looking for one.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 02:34 AM
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11. Oh hell, if you got that MEAN GREEN, you'll never be at a loss for people to suck up to you.
I have no idea what the hell you are talking about - ALL Democratic Sites are for you especially since we've in essence meshed into a corporate right wing duopoly. Business people, like those on Wall Street are DoublePlusGood. :shrug:
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Laurab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 02:40 AM
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12. I don't have the "mean green" like the OP does.
It's not that that's changed this board - it's the part about supporting Democrats that seems to be missing - your post is an excellent example of what I'm talking about.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 02:42 AM
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13. I also support democrats. Unfortunately many of our legislators do not OWN up
Edited on Fri Apr-03-09 02:45 AM by ShortnFiery
to what I have believed since the 1970s to be "democratic principles."

I hope you find your niche but believe many people here are losing their jobs and are justifiably angry.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 02:57 AM
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20. well Dem-bashing has long been in vogue
First, because all Dems enabled the Bush administration dontcha know. Many times I felt the need to point out that a majority of House Democrats, thanks to the leadership of Kucinich, voted AGAINST the Iraq war, and that the 2003 Bush tax cuts passed the Senate 51-50, without a SINGLE Democratic vote.

Then Democrats won Congress in 2006, and Reid and Pelosi challenged Bush and Cheney for the title of "most hated by DU". I felt the need to write this in 2007

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/hfojvt/51

But Skinner has often repeated the advice, if you want to enjoy DU more, get out of GD and GDP. Visit the subject forums and the state forums, and maybe LBN (although I don't have much use for LBN myself).
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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 03:03 AM
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21. think we got off on the wrong foot
have been on all the boards on DU.. but thank you for thinking of me. Am sorry your business didn't do well..it's certainly a challenge to survive.
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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 02:51 AM
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17. have profit sharing for employees
believe me.. it would be so nice to take those profits for myself...have paid for rehab for any employee with substance abuse including gambling rehab for bookeeper (now is that scary or what?)

What am getting to is that business people are not evil...at least have felt that we are portrayed that way.
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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 03:11 AM
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22. why am I defensive?
jeeesh.. talking about what I do for employees like am a criminal or such.. stfu!
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Joe the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 02:51 AM
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18. Ahhhh don't let them get you down........
There's a place for you here at DU I'm sure. :fistbump:
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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 02:52 AM
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19. hey...that's my belly! n/t
Edited on Fri Apr-03-09 02:53 AM by medeak
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 03:49 AM
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23. stay right here.
don't let the haters get to you.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 05:41 AM
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24. With a little help...
This site could return to that Dem site.
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