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daninthemoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 11:48 AM
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Will Lou Dobbs stfu now that he has gotten people killed? More
people killed? The hate speech about immigrants has led to murder. Again.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 11:49 AM
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1. Is That the Motive
it's what I had thought as well....
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enlightenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 11:51 AM
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2. Unless you can prove that Dobbs speech
(nasty as it is, it's still protected speech) actually led to murder, your statement is pretty libelous. You might want to reconsider the hyperbole before you post.
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 12:11 PM
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9. isn't daninthe moon entitled to his opinion as well?
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enlightenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 03:26 PM
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16. Sure. An opinion, however, is usually expressed with some form
of 'I think' or 'I believe' or 'In my opinion'.

daninthemoon wrote:

"Will Lou Dobbs stfu now that he has gotten people killed? More

people killed? The hate speech about immigrants has led to murder. Again."


That isn't just an opinion. It's a statement that presumes fact. Unless the statements - 'now that he has gotten people killed' and 'the ('the' in this case referring back to Dobb's comments, presumably) hate speech about immigrants has led to murder' - can be backed with fact, they stand as potentially libelous speech.

In other words, the OP is claiming that Dobbs' speech resulted in the action. That's defamatory unless it can be proved. I'm not attacking the OP - just the way in which the post was made. Words are powerful things.
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 06:26 PM
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18. well, I would assume it's daninthemoon's opinion since he wrote it. n/t
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enlightenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 09:10 PM
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20. You're missing the point, deliberately perhaps -
I won't assume . . .

I will state - in my opinion :) - that we disagree. And that's perfectly all right.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 11:52 AM
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3. I think we need to back off on the motivations of the shooter
in Binghamton. We don't know anything about the motive. In one account, the shooter has been described as an asian man. Who knows what's going on?

Let's not be like the freepers. Once we find out what the situation really is, then we can react appropriately.
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tuckessee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 11:55 AM
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4. What will you do when your statement is proven wrong?
Will you "stfu", as you wish Lou would do?
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 11:57 AM
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5. What's the frequency, Kenneth?
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veganlush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 12:09 PM
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8. what's the frequency..haha
:evilgrin: :crazy: :crazy: :rofl:
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 12:05 PM
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6. You have nothing to base that assuption on
VERY rarely are these shooting political.

It is most likely a Domestic or immigration issue and it's also possible that the shooter is also an immigrant.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 12:09 PM
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7. Let's wait for the facts
You may be right.You may be wrong. This may have nothing to do with politics or immigration.
Point is we don't know yet.
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daninthemoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 12:17 PM
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10. True enough. I may have jumped to a conclusion, the facts are not
in yet, and perhaps I should have posted this as a question rather than an assertion. Dobs is engaging in speech every night that is firing up all kind of people against ferners. I have no doubt but that people have been killed as a result of dobb's nightly rants. Do i have proof? of course not, but I'm sure it is happening.
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 12:18 PM
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11. No one knows the motive yet. Too early to accuse or blame anyone.
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 12:20 PM
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12. Are you kidding? He'll be talking about how they won't be stealing from American workers now.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 01:17 PM
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13. You don't know the motive for
the shootings. Why don't you wait.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 01:19 PM
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14. You don't know the motive for the
shootings. Why don't you wait.
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 01:20 PM
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15. Do you see how the OP reveals *your own* prejudices and biases? nt
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 03:29 PM
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17. The Moran is strong with this one
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 06:30 PM
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19. Denouncing illegal immigration is not hate speech. nt
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 09:13 PM
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21. You're right. n/t
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Mike 03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 09:16 PM
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22. I agree with you because he feeds the lowest common denominator.
He doesn't kill anyone, but his rhetoric fuels the hatred of those who do.

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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 09:18 PM
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23. K&R #4 (let's go for BIG #5) for BEST observation of A-hole DOBBS!1 n/t
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