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Purveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 12:15 PM
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Israel: Women Photoshopped From Cabinet Picture To Cater To The Ultra-Orthodox
JERUSALEM — Two women serve in Israel's new Cabinet, but some Israelis would rather not see them.

Newspapers aimed at ultra-Orthodox Jewish readers tampered with the inaugural photograph of the Cabinet, erasing ministers Limor Livnat and Sofa Landver.

Ultra-Orthodox newspapers consider it immodest to print images of women.

The daily Yated Neeman digitally changed the photo, moving two male ministers into the places formerly occupied by the women.

The weekly Shaa Tova simply blacked the women out, in a photo reprinted Friday by the mainstream daily Maariv.

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HUFFINGTON: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/03/israel-women-photoshopped_n_182822.html
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 12:18 PM
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1. ludicrous. what a bunch of nuts. But from the headline, I thought initially
that the government itself had done it.
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LeftinOH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 12:21 PM
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2. Misogyny seems to be a common denominator among fundies everywhere...n/t
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 12:43 PM
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8. Absolutely!!!!!!!!!
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 12:54 PM
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12. Well, fundies want us all back in Biblical times.
And guess who was on the short end of the stick back then? Women and pretty much any relevant minority groups.

My question is that of chicken and egg - Does the religion cause the misogyny or are these people misogynists that abuse their religions for justification? Not that it matters much, I suppose - the bottom line is the same.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 02:42 PM
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16. yep. And they are proud of it..
http://www.ucalgary.ca/~elsegal/Shokel/991021_DubiousBlessing.html

A Dubious Blessing....

Few Jewish religious texts have provoked as much indignation and discomfort as the brief passage that is recited by traditional Jewish men at the beginning of the daily morning prayers: "Blessed are you, Lord, our God, ruler the universe who has not created me a woman." For many, it expresses a quintessential misogynism that lies at the core of our patriarchal religion.

The text in question appears as part of a sequence of blessings, found in the Talmud, that are meant to accompany activities that are performed in the course of waking up in the morning, such as hearing the first cock-crow, opening one's eyes, stepping on the ground, getting dressed, etc. In order to maintain uniformity, medieval Jewish authorities preferred that all the blessings be recited together in the synagogue, rather than left to the discretion of individuals.


More at above link...
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madaboutharry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 12:22 PM
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3. These people are complete wackos.
They have been known to actually throw rocks at women wearing sleaves that do not cover their elbows.

Religious fanatics.
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Kalyke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 12:23 PM
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4. Totally OT, but did you see the ad on this page for pagent photo retouching
http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/imgad?id=CIP44aznltCEtAEQrAIY7wEyCBPyKIbmPdz3

That little girl looks far cuter in the first photo than that ugly retouched one.
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madaboutharry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 12:25 PM
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5. Wow. That is creepy.
She looks like a "Stepford Child".
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 12:43 PM
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7. Stepford Parents "selling" their Stepford Children.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 03:03 PM
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17. ewwww, why would anyone like that second one?
beyond the obvious pedophile factor I mean
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 12:40 PM
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6. Fanatics are fanatics...no matter what religion or philosophy they claim to represent.
Edited on Fri Apr-03-09 12:44 PM by BrklynLiberal
Being Jewish makes me no less disgusted by the hypocrisy and danger of the ultra-orthodox fanatics. Chaos and hate are their favorite weapons. Peace and happiness are antithetical to their purposes. Their leaders only derive power from hate and fear.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yitzhak_Rabin

Yitzak Rabin was an Israeli politician and general. He was the fifth Prime Minister of Israel, serving two terms in office, 1974–1977 and 1992 until his assassination in 1995. In 1994, Rabin won the Nobel Peace Prize together with Shimon Peres and Yasser Arafat. He was assassinated by right-wing Israeli radical Yigal Amir, who was opposed to Rabin's signing of the Oslo Peace Accords. Rabin was the first native-born prime minister of Israel, the only prime minister to be assassinated and the second to die in office after Levi Eshkol.


http://www.wrmea.com/backissues/1295/9512006.html

"Assassin Yigal Amir was as Israeli as hummus pie. He's not a lone anything—he's exactly a product of the extremist Orthodox-nationalist culture that he comes from. He was trained by his rabbis, and as far as I'm concerned, he pulled the trigger for them. Sure he's insane, but they're insane too. This is not Lee Harvey Oswald. He didn't come from nowhere. He's the boy next door."—Israeli author Ze'ev Chafets, November 1995.

"For two years now we have been hearing from some right-wing Israelis that 'the people' do not want this peace and that God forbids any contact between Jews and the Palestine Liberation Organization...It is typical of religious fanatics, whether Christian, Muslim or Jew, that the 'orders' they get from God are always, essentially, one order: Thou shalt kill. The god of all fanatics sounds more like the devil."
—Israeli author Amos Oz, Washington Post , Nov. 12, 1995.

"Unless these extremists stop corrupting the souls of young children, destroy their Baruch Goldstein memorials, and keep their radical opinions strictly to themselves, they must be collectively excommunicated." —Ehud Sprinzak, author of The Ascendance of Israel's Radical Right, Washington Post, Nov. 12, 1995.

"There are enemies of peace who are trying to hurt us in order to torpedo the peace process. I want to say bluntly that we have found a partner for peace among the Palestinians...the Palestine Liberation Organization, which was an enemy, and has ceased to engage in terrorism...For Israel there is no path that is without pain. But the path of peace is preferable to the path of war."—From Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin's final speech delivered at the Tel Aviv peace rally where he was killed on Nov. 4, 1995.
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 12:51 PM
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11. This is absolutely, 1,354,855% true.
Christofascist fanatics = Islamofascist fanatics = Judeofascist fanatics. They are all cut from precisely the same cloth.

The only mitigating factor, in my opinion, is economics and power. The less money and power one of these loons have, the more desperate and drastic (and violent) their actions become.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 02:37 PM
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15. I totally agree with your formula, and particularly the mitigating factor aspect!
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 12:47 PM
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9. Idiots should be courteous enough to announce themselves.
Merely blacking out the female ministers is offensive enough, but covering up the cover-up? This is shame on shame.

The contortions that modern cootiephobes put themselves through are stunning.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 12:51 PM
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10. Down the Memory Hole they go . . . .
Israel isn't a theocracy???
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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 01:02 PM
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13. Israel isn't a theocracy but in all things religious
the orthodox have the final say. It's a deal with the devil that the early Zionists, many of whom were atheists, made in order to garner rabbinic support for a Jewish state. According to the ultra orthodox, only the Moshiach (messiah) can bring about a Jewish state. Some of the ultra orthodox may live in Israel but they do not support the state of Israel.
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bushmeister0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 01:40 PM
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14. We can't let those crazy Mullah's get a nuke! Umm . . . wait a minute.
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 05:40 PM
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18. is fanaticism "orthodox"?
just wondering.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 07:49 PM
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19. Orthodox = conservative
I do not find in orthodox Christianity one redeeming feature.
Thomas Jefferson

One of the embarrassing problems for the early nineteenth-century champions of the Christian faith was that not one of the first six Presidents of the United States was an orthodox Christian.
Mortimer Adler

I do not believe in the divinity of Christ, and there are many other of the postulates of the orthodox creed to which I cannot subscribe.
William Howard Taft

The nature of an innovation is that it will arise at a fringe where it can afford to become prevalent enough to establish its usefulness without being overwhelmed by the inertia of the orthodox system.
Kevin Kelly

There are several reasons why Russians view the oppressive state positively. First, in the Russian Orthodox religion, there is an understanding of authority as something sent by God.
Ryszard Kapuscinski

Men who are orthodox when they are young are in danger of being middle-aged all their lives.
Walter Lippmann

People that are orthodox when they are young are in danger of being middle-aged all their lives.
Walter Lippmann

If there is any fixed star in our constitutional constellation, it is that no official, high or petty, can prescribe what shall be orthodox in politics, nationalism, religion, or other matters of opinion, or force citizens to confess by word or act.
Robert Jackson
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