I am ashamed of DUers hoping for political motivation for NY shooting

[wndycty]

1) People lost their lives, do we have to rush to find political opportunity out of the deaths of innocent victims?

2) Early reports suggest the shooter is an Asian male. What if he is an immigrant? That same political advantage that some sought blows up in the face of those of us who support immigration reform.

3) If the shooter was inspired by Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck and/or Dobbs there will be plenty of time to hold them accountable.

When tragedy strikes our first reaction should be human not political.

[Renew Deal]

1. I mostly agree, except this is a political website

And everything is looked at through a political lense. And this incident stinks of terrorism that we've seen in mass shooting before.

[madaboutharry]

2. I agree. No one knows what is going on.

He could be a person angry about what has happened in his own life. It could have nothing to do with politics.

[jobycom]

3. I'll give you an atheist AMEN for that. nt

[Earth_First]

10. ...a WHAT?!

:eyes:



:sarcasm:

[La Lioness Priyanka]

15. whats with the eyeroll and sarcasm?

[jobycom]

21. A Coca Cola bottle?

The whole thing!

[uppityperson]

37. Mainly because half the people I was with believed it until I explained the situation to them.

[jobycom]

38. That's what happens with Asian wood cutters bleeding in empty art galleries.

[cali]

4. thank you wndy for putting it so well.

you're absolutely spot on.

[shadowknows69]

5. You can't blame people for speculating on motive

It's knee jerk reaction to be sure but I think we're all guilty of it at some point.

[Eric J in MN]

6. There is difference between hoping and speculating.

While I can't read minds, those DU-ers were probably just speculating.

[baldguy]

8. Or being resigned to it.

[wndycty]

12. The best way for us to distinguish ourselves from Freepers is not only ideology but behavior

Unfortunately we often act like progressive Freepers.

[jobycom]

23. Wow.

[ogneopasno]

7. Well said. I totally agree. And as far as being inspired by right-wing talk radio,

Don't we always laugh about how small the audience for that is anyway?

[shadowknows69]

16. A thousands throats may be cut in the night by a running man

[ogneopasno]

18. M-hm.

[Occam Bandage]

9. As am I. It's disgusting. nt

[hlthe2b]

11. Yes, agree... EXCEPT

You say "If the shooter was inspired by Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck and/or Dobbs there will be plenty of time to hold them accountable."

We didn't hold them accountable for the last one--though their books were exclusive among his reading material in his home. Just sayin....

[Beetwasher]

13. Show Me A Post Of Someone "Hoping"

Speculating? Yes. That's not surprising considering the hate towards immigrants that comes from Republicans.

[cherokeeprogressive]

22. Because You Asked

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x5383396

[Beetwasher]

24. So That Poster Is "Hoping"?

According to you? :shrug:

I don't think so.

Frankly, I dunno the motivations. But I don't "hope" it's a Republican, it merely wouldn't surprise because of their outspoken hate. I actually hope it's NOT as that would indicate these hatemongers are actually achieving some modicum of success, at least from their POV.

It's a tragedy all around regardless of motivation, however, speculating on motivation is hardly "hoping" for a specific one.

People ascribing "hope" as a motivation for certain posts here would be guilty of what they are accusing. They are speculating as to someone elses motivation for doing something.

[madinmaryland]

14. What happened? I just got back from lunch and have not ventured over to GD.

[aquart]

19. Yes. What shooting?

[Forkboy]

35. Don't be a dildo.

Oh wait, you passed that threshold years and years ago here.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

17. are you sure they are hoping and not just thinking? when a gay man gets shot

i think homophobia fuelled it. when an immigrant center is under siege i think xenophobia etc. i may be later proved wrong, but thats just my immediate thought.

this doesnt i wanted the tragedy, nor that i dont view it as a tragedy

[cali]

20. I don't know. I think there's a degree of "hoping"

Same thing happens on threads about politicians in sex scandals- wanting them to be pukes. And when I hear that someone who's asian or of asian descent attacks an immigrant center, I think it's probably personal.

[Barack_America]

25. It may not be now, but it will become political.

I can't imagine Obama NOT being asked about this at a NATO press conference.

What will he say about gun violence in the US?

[soothsayer]

26. Great, asians are taking yet another job held almost exclusively by white men

[cherokeeprogressive]

27. Laughed... thought I'd DIE!

NOT. Not funny at all. Shamefully unfeeling and discompassionate.

[Quantess]

28. must EVERYTHING be political?

It's unhealthy to see everything in a political angle. It causes distortion of the truth. Myopia.

Plus, it's extremely annoying to others.

[tjwash]

29. Hell YEAH!! We love that shit here, are you kidding?

Dude...it's the internet...nothing is above being politicized or shit on.

Go on to any one of the "Obama Sucks, none of this would have happened if <whatever batshit nutty candidate I endorse> were elected" thread, if you want to see a bunch of people politicizing misery, pain and poverty. We can't get enough of that here.

Half these mother fuckers, are holding their breath, in hopeful anticipation of an entire global economic collapse, and the resultant war/death/enthic-cleansing that will follow, just so their views get vindicated, and they can dance atop the rubble in masturbatory glee while chanting "I TOLD YOU SO!!!"

And you think a few people getting shot is above all that here?

:rofl:

[emilyg]

30. Sometimes we are a digusting bunch on DU.

[alarimer]

31. The people that do this kind of thing are usually right-wing nutjobs.

It was an immigration center so chances are it has a political motivation.

[DrDan]

32. "hoping"? You are sure they are "hoping" for a political connection?

I have not seen any posts like that.

[liberalhistorian]

33. I totally agree, thanks for this. Sometimes DU sounds more

like freepers than they'd care to admit or recognize.

[datasuspect]

34. for shame!

what would the town fathers think?

tsk tsk

[arcadian]

36. Didn't realize we were at a church service.

I guess we should shut up and listen to the pastor, huh? In this case the pastor being you.

[lanlady]

39. many don't want to admit

that easy access to guns makes these tragedies possible.