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LuckyTheDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 05:00 PM
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Mea culpa: I am a Democrat
That means that, sometimes, I am willing to accept compromises in the interest of making progress.

It means I am willing to accept something other than a single-pay health care system if that is what we can get and if that means far more people get health insurance than can get it now.

It means I am willing to wait a bit longer than I'd like to get out of Iraq -- if that's what we need to do in order to put an end to an insane policy.

Yes, I am willing in many cases to give in to the politics of the possible. I that makes me a bad liberal, then so be it.
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 05:04 PM
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1. What almost always happens...
is that the pukes move to the right

the dems move half as far to the right (as a compromise)

the pukes move farther to the right

the dems move half that far to the right

lather, rinse, repeat.

That's how we've lost ground consistently for 30 years.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 05:15 PM
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5. The Obama budget is not a move to the right.
Neither was the stimulus package.

They were moves to the left.

But lots of folks here don't realize that because it just wasn't as far to the left as they wanted.

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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 05:42 PM
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8. Well they can sit and suffer b/c our gov't will never go that far
left.:nopity:
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 05:04 PM
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2. The problem is that you've still got the insurance companies calling the shots
Doctors can provide much better health care if their hands aren't tied by pencil-pushers.
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liberalsince1968 Donating Member (245 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 05:09 PM
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3. That's not "progress." That's ENABLING.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 05:14 PM
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4. The overachieving crowd is here to tell you
how they have figured out how to enact meaningful social change.

Apparently it involves a 'my way or the high way' approach and bitching on blogs.

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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 05:31 PM
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6. How's that working out for them?
Not too well, I bet. No Utopia in sight.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 05:34 PM
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7. "if that's what we can get"
Well. Who will we allow to tell us what we can and can not get? Why is acceptable that grandma's health care must generate a Corporate profit? It is not.
Who judges what is and is not possible? And then deems some policy possitions 'the politics of the possible'? Is there a book? What the fuck happened to 'Yes We Can' and all that falderal? What happened to 'We the people', for that matter?
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LuckyTheDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-03-09 09:01 PM
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9. Who judges what is and is not possible?
Nobody predetermines that. But given the choice between getting something done and maintaining gridlock in the name of ideological purity, I'll choose getting something done -- every time.
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