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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 12:58 AM
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The mass shootings in America
7 April 2009

Ten years ago this month two students opened fire on their classmates and teachers at Columbine High School...Two years ago, also in April, a student at Virginia Tech in Blacksburg, Virginia killed 32 people and wounded 17 others, also before turning the weapon on himself...

In the past month, an eruption of violence in the US has accounted for the deaths of 53 people in seven mass shooting incidents.... No one in Washington cares to say the obvious: That the slaughter is a symptom of a diseased social order. As for the pundits, the tragedies that all too rapidly succeed one another in the headlines barely stir them into taking up column space or airtime. The comments and attempted explanations become ever more perfunctory.

That a human being might suffer a mental collapse under extreme conditions is an element of everyday life. That seven individuals pick up multiple, extremely lethal weapons and attempt to blot out as many lives as they can, often before taking their own, is a phenomenon shaped by social and historical circumstances.

The present socio-psychological environment, in which so many individuals, deranged though they may be, can cause the massive suffering and death of innocent people without flinching, cannot be accounted for without reference to recent trends in American life.

...the decades of political reaction in the US, rooted in economic decline... the encouragement of militarism and chauvinism, the worship of “free market” ruthlessness and selfishness, and a popular culture pervaded by brutal imagery and lyrics.

In the manner of mob bosses, Obama administration officials, like their counterparts under Bush, speak of “killing” or “taking out” their political enemies in the Middle East and Central Asia.

The “lone gunmen,” in some sense, are Frankenstein monsters produced by American society in advanced social and moral decline. In their own psychotic fashion, such individuals are merely taking the premises on which Wall Street, the Pentagon and the White House routinely operate and applying them to their personal dilemmas.

The economic crisis is undoubtedly exacerbating these tendencies, as it places the psychologically vulnerable under far greater than usual stress. All the more under conditions where America’s social safety net, highly porous at the best of times, has been shredded by Republican and Democratic governments at every level.

...Job loss has been a factor helping to trigger a number of the recent mass shootings. A study reported in the American Journal of Public Health in 2003 found that unemployment is the single strongest predictor in cases where men murder their wives. An abuser’s lack of employment increased the risk fourfold, the research found.

The Journal of Epidemiology and Community Health published a study, also in 2003, concluding that “Being unemployed was associated with a twofold to threefold increased relative risk of death by suicide, compared with being employed. About half of this association might be attributable to confounding by mental illness.”

America is a country seething with discontent. Wide layers of the population, whose own conditions of life are deteriorating rapidly, watch in helpless fury as the very bankers and speculators who drove the country into the ground are handed trillions of dollars, with no strings attached, by the federal government. The trade unions, bound hand and foot to the ruling elite, long ago abandoned any struggle in the defense of working people.

Millions of people are losing everything—a job, a house, a decent standard of living. Tent cities have sprung up in numerous communities. Five million jobs have been destroyed since December 2007, and the new administration’s “stimulus package” will not scratch the surface of the problem.

...Even if the character of the new government is not yet grasped in a politically conscious manner, there is an increasing sense that “Nothing has changed”: the political system—sclerotic, corrupt, held in contempt—remains impervious to the interests and needs of the population.

What has not yet emerged is a revival of mass popular struggle against the attacks of the corporations and the government, and the political perspective that could guide such a struggle...


http://www.wsws.org/articles/2009/apr2009/pers-a07.shtml
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 01:02 AM
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1. K&R
What has not yet emerged is a revival of mass popular struggle against the attacks of the corporations and the government, and the political perspective that could guide such a struggle...

Not.

Yet.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 01:15 AM
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 01:20 AM
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4. what is that dubious link, "yeast infection," 1 post?
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BrightKnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 02:01 AM
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6. spam - n/t
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 04:16 AM
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9. or something. The nick "infection" intrigues.
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Bushknew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 01:17 AM
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3. This phenomena is the consequence of our government spending more money to...
Edited on Tue Apr-07-09 01:18 AM by Bushknew
improve our military rather than to improve our society i.e. health care, education & jobs.

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Joe the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 01:39 AM
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5. Good read. n/t
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lucretia54 Donating Member (96 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 02:11 AM
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7. You completely overlooked
the most prevalent and insidious form of violence in this country- domestic violence! It seems as though people do tend to overlook it; deny that it's there. "Oh, he's just had a bad day." "In my house, you do as you are told!"

Check out the statistics- the numbers of homicides far outweigh these incidents.

Perhaps if we had peace in our own homes, it would be a start...
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bottomtheweaver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 02:13 AM
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8. The good news is, it's not us.
Edited on Tue Apr-07-09 02:14 AM by bottomtheweaver
I did a little Googling on Columbine thanks to the thread posted here earlier and what do you know, it reeks of CIA. And V Tech was so obviously a spook job it's laughable. Maybe I'm nuts but it looks to me like the Bushler crowd is still very much in control of the intel apparatus. That family's stink is everywhere.

:mad:

Here's a longish video touching on some of stuff that was covered up at Columbine, multiple unreported shooters mainly, though not on the CIA stuff, which probably isn't linkable to DU anyway:

http://evanlong.buzznet.com/user/video/3746811/the-columbine-cause/
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TWiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 04:22 AM
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10. The problem is that NRA types are often conservative republicans or libertarians
Edited on Tue Apr-07-09 04:23 AM by TWiley
In short, few want to support social welfare programs or activites which reduce the underlying causes of gun violence. Their only function is to fill the world with more guns, and to sell more NRA memberships

Gun violence will continue to increase during economic downturns and other socio-economic pressures. It is a statistical certainty. The underlying causes must be addressed along with gun ownership.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 04:33 AM
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11. what a confused potage of simple mindedness.
Not that you don't make some valid points, but they're subsumed by your dogma. This isn't nearly as uniquely American as you believe. In times of economic distress, humans have invariably reacted violently.

And what's the point of this?

"In the manner of mob bosses, Obama administration officials, like their counterparts under Bush, speak of “killing” or “taking out” their political enemies in the Middle East and Central Asia."

The rhetoric of officials under the Obama administration has been ratcheted waay down from the bush days. The talk re foreign policy is conciliatory. So how does it connect to the spate of violence we're experiencing?

American exceptionalists are funny critters- whether they're extolling this country as the "shining city on the hill", or the "evil city in hell".
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 04:35 AM
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13. agreed..

There is also little reflection or statistics to back this up. People going crazy and killing innocents is hardly new in America.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 05:45 AM
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19. No, it's not new, but yes, incidence has risen since the 60s.
1900-1965: 21 mass public shootings in the US.

1966-1999: 95 mass public shootings in the US.

http://wcr.sonoma.edu/v6n1/manuscripts/duwe.pdf

check "conclusion"
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 04:50 AM
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15. Perhaps you can point out another industrialized democracy..
Where this sort of thing happens with anywhere near the frequency that it does in "the land of the free"?

The rhetoric may have been toned down a notch or two but the reality is that Predator drone strikes have killed *more* innocents recently than was happening previously, the wars in Iraq, Afghanistan and America continue apace.

Our society is sick in so many ways, it is hardly a sign of good mental health to be well adjusted to it.

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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 04:56 AM
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16. all societies are sick to varying degrees and
particularly huge societies. And mental health is more about what's happening in one's personal life than anything else. That said, it's much harder for poor families to function on a positive emotional level than for those who aren't just trying to exist.

As for where does "this happen with anywhere near the frequency that it does in the land of the free", well, as far as gun violence, it doesn't, but as far as other outbreaks of other kinds of violence, take a look around. We're really not so exceptional- in any way.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 05:53 AM
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20. C'mon, mass killings are extremely rare in all the other industrialized democracies..
And you know it..

We're to the point now that it's happening a couple of times a week.

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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 05:00 AM
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17. I didn't write the OP, Cali. As you'd have known if you'd read it far enough to see the link.
"This isn't nearly as uniquely American as you believe."

Neither the writer nor I make that claim.


"In times of economic distress, humans have invariably reacted violently."

Maybe you didn't get it: that is exactly the writer's claim.
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 04:33 AM
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12. I'm not so sure about this...

If you go back and look at old newspapers, you'll see that there have always been mass murders in America. Granted, the economic situation is stressful and is behind some of the recent shootings, but this is hardly some kind of new phenomenon.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 04:44 AM
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14. The shooter in NY was paranoid. Check this out:
ource: AP

By WILLIAM KATES

BINGHAMTON, N.Y. – Suspected gunman Jiverly Wong felt tormented by police. They snuck into his room and touched him while he was sleeping, he thought. They stole $20 from his wallet. Because of them, he lost his job. Because of them, he was poor and his life was a mess.

In a rambling, disjointed letter sent to a TV news station, the man who would walk into an immigrant center and gun down 13 people before killing himself blamed his troubles on the police and vowed to take at least two people "to return to the dust of earth."

In the letter, received Monday by News 10 Now in Syracuse, the writer also complains of shoddy treatment by the state unemployment system after he lost his job assembling vacuum cleaners.

Authorities did not immediately say Monday if they had verified the letter's authenticity, but city officials were reviewing it as evidence in the investigation. They planned a news briefing Tuesday morning.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3819446

The premise of your OP and this man's situation are not mutually exclusive. Rather, one likely exacerbated the other. And I don't know why I knew this about this guy. Maybe I should set up an 800 number and change my user name to Mz Clio.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 05:24 AM
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18. I don't think clinical diagnoses are made, by police, based on letters written in broken English.
The defining characteristic of paranoia is delusional belief causing "excessive" fear/anxiety.

The shooter may have been clinically paranoid; he may have had real reasons for his beliefs (I note he was arrested for a bad check); he may have *become* "paranoid" after the string of bad experiences noted in the letter; being arrested, divorced, losing jobs, having trouble collecting UE.

It's immaterial. What's most apparent to me in the letter is: he's socially isolated & unable to maintain himself economically; *real* reasons exist for fear & anxiety.

If his situation is due to "mental illness," he evidentally didn't get needed help & support.

If it's due to the cutthroat economy & his weak position in it, same difference.




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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 09:15 AM
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21. The forensic psychiatrist in the article comments on his situation
without diagnosing him. And no, there is no real reason to believe police touch you in your sleep. That's delusion, not anxiety.

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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 12:08 AM
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22. i'll agree with you on the police touching you in your sleep. don't necessarily trust the report
though.

regardless, i doubt it would have happened if he'd been able to make a living.

just my opinion.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 12:47 AM
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23. I agree with that. I have to wonder if his whatever interfered with
his ability to hold a job or navigate getting support.

My ex couldn't do either on his own without an advocate. With one, he did just fine -- so well, in fact, that his actual condition became invisible. Without one, he became homeless.

I know I'm tiresome on this topic. But we have no functioning mental health care system. Bad things are going to happen to people.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 02:07 AM
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25. you're not tiresome at all. & i agree with you that support is deliberately made difficult to get.
also that with good support systems, a lot of people now labeled as defective in various ways would manage a heck of a lot better, to the point of their labels becoming irrelevant in a lot of cases.
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Lilith Velkor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 12:57 AM
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24. There is no war but the class war.
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