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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 12:35 PM
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Something I always wondered, remember the free cheese and stuff the government gave away
Edited on Tue Apr-07-09 12:36 PM by RB TexLa
In the town I grew up in they just told everyone to come down to city hall and get some cheese. Was this the norm or did most places follow some kind of procedure based on need?
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Kookaburra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 12:39 PM
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1. My town did the same thing
You didn't have to sign up for anything. Just come and get it.
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SoCalNative Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 12:40 PM
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2. It was SUPPOSED to be for low income
ie seniors and people who were on government assistance like food stamps or welfare.
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 12:40 PM
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3. I know it was.
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 12:41 PM
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4. That happened in US towns I lived in as late as 1998.§
I always _hated_ that there were these short articles in the local newspapers about "commodities distribution" and then those who needed the help were earmarked as "poor" or "welfare queens" just by showing up to get help. In one town I lived in,the local newspaper even ran photos of people picking up commodities. People ought to be able to get help without their need being made a public spectacle.
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 12:42 PM
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5. I remember those days and I think there were a few guidelines about
poverty but what kept many people from getting it was pride. You had to go to the local courthouse to pick it up and everyone was watching so many people just stayed home. That program was an early form of food stamps and still exists in some areas where you can opt between food stamps or commodities. The commodities consist of cheese, canned and fresh vegetables, flour, canned and fresh fruit, fruit juices, pastas, meats (including buffalo burger sometimes) and other basics.
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 12:52 PM
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9. I guess we didn't have that pride affliction. I guarantee you, every house in my little town
Edited on Tue Apr-07-09 12:54 PM by RB TexLa
people were slicing cheese off that big ass block.

I remember having the cheese, and I remember the canned fruits were very strange.
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 02:01 PM
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19. Where I live the commodities were given out even after the advent of
food stamps. I'm not sure what the requirements were to receive the commodities, but I seem to remember it being a USDA program, not a HHS program. I could be wrong about that because it's been a long time ago.
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 10:50 PM
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30. Both are /were USDA programs.
Food Stamps were a program of the Food and Nutrition Service within USDA. The surplus food was under the USDA commodities distribution program.


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ropi Donating Member (948 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 12:42 PM
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6. i remember that...
my grandma worked with handing it out. i thought it was mainly there for the senior citizens and if you were below a certain yearly payscale, but i could be wrong. i was a kid at the time.

and i recall that the pb was vile!
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lucretia54 Donating Member (96 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 12:45 PM
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7. Was it the WIC program?
The WIC program gave out milk and cheese to families with young children and pregnant women.

Of course, nowadays, children are raised on Mountain Dew.
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 12:53 PM
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10. Just commodities distribution, I think it was supposed to be for WIC recipients
but we always had enough for everyone in town. Nobody on WIC went without.
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 01:51 PM
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16. No; a college roommate's family used to get the cheese, and he was the youngest.
His family always gave it to him/us because we were starving students.
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 10:43 PM
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26. What most of us are talking about was not WIC. WIC gives you coupons
that are cashed in for various healthy items to feed your children under 5.
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doctor jazz Donating Member (474 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 12:48 PM
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8. I recall seeing huge boxes of it in the basement of city hall, they couldn't give it away.
The mayor was a friend of mine and we were farting around downstairs and there it was...I took some home but now I can't recall if it was any good or not.
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 10:45 PM
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27. In our community the wealthy were glad if you would share with them
because it was very good cheese.
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 12:57 PM
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11. The first distribution was before the name change to WIC.
In Michigan it was for 'ADC welfare recipients,' only. Aide to Dependent Children.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 01:02 PM
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12. That "cheese" was nasty; you had to be pretty damn hungry to eat it
Edited on Tue Apr-07-09 01:03 PM by depakid
As a poor and lowly undergrad with a meager stipend, I got some of that cheese once....

Don't think there were any questions asked. As I recall, the program was meant more to support dairy prices than as a public assistance program.





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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 01:44 PM
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15. I don't know what it was like in your state but here, recipients
were selling it, trading it and some friends of mine were giving it to their friends (me, for one.) That cheese was the best I've ever had which is quite different from the cheese distributed to present day WIC. Now, THAT, is nasty.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 02:06 PM
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21. This was in Oregon in the early 80's
Edited on Tue Apr-07-09 02:07 PM by depakid
This wasn't actual cheese- it was "processed cheese food product" or something like that. You could ruin a pot of refried beans or mac & cheese by adding that stuff in.

I think we ended up eating about half of it on sandwiches- because we couldn't give it away. At the time, a big block of low end cheese (actual cheese) was only around 2 bucks and for a little more, you could get the cheap Tillamook cheddar- which is not too bad.
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 02:38 PM
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23. We were on strike for over three months back in the mid 80's
Edited on Tue Apr-07-09 02:40 PM by doc03
and most of the cheese our Union was getting for our food bank somehow ended up being sold to restaurants. I did get one box of that cheese and I thought is was very good, it made great grilled cheese sandwiches.
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 01:54 PM
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18. we used it for toasted cheese sandwiches & to melt it into soups and those Lipton pasta/rice packets
3 starving students with a toaster oven and a hot plate
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Broken_Hero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 01:25 AM
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39. The current cheese(from what I've seen the past 10yrs or so)
reminds me of a generic velveeta type of cheese, just a little more hard/firm than velveeta though....
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Frustratedlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 01:05 PM
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13. We used to have butter and cheese distributed for the needy in the 1970s, I believe.
However, they then had a program where they paid farmers to dispose of their dairy herds, which cut down on over-production. That may be why there isn't as much given out.

Too bad, as the food banks could sure use some now.
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 02:48 PM
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25. We were on strike in 1985 for over 3 months
Edited on Tue Apr-07-09 02:49 PM by doc03
and again in 1996 for 10 1/2 and our Union received cheese, butter and I think peanut butter for our food bank. Very little of it actually got down to the rank and file I know one of our Union officials that had two freezers full of the cheese in her basement. Some of it also ended up in restaurants in Youngstown.
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 01:21 PM
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14. Apparently it's still in operation
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 01:53 PM
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17. 1983. Santa Cruz, CA. Nice, buttery USDA surplus cheddar. Great with local white wine and
crusty French bread. Then we went surfing at Light House point, down the road.

We were broke, but happy.


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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 02:04 PM
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20. Government Cheese:
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 02:29 PM
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22. something wrong there. gov't cheese predated the 80s.
Section 32 of the Agriculture Act of 1935.

To bring stability into the marketplace, Congress passed P.L. 74-320 on August 24, 1935.

The object of this legislation was to remove price-depressing surplus foods from the market through government purchase and dispose of them through exports and domestic donations to consumers in such a way as not to interfere with normal sales.

This law provided the basis for donating surplus commodities (and later funding) for federal domestic food programs. USDA originally defined eligible outlets for these commodities, which included schools (for lunch programs), nonprofit summer camps for children, charitable institutions, and needy families.

The Agricultural Act of 1949.

Additional authority for commodity donations was made available to the Department with enactment of the Agricultural Act of 1949, and subsequent amendments.

Section 416 of the Act made certain commodities acquired through price-support operations by the Commodity Credit Corporation (CCC) available for distribution to needy people. CCC commodities were made available to:

(1) school lunch programs;

(2) the Bureau of Indian Affairs and Federal, State, and local public welfare organizations for the assistance of needy Indians and other needy persons;

(3) private welfare organizations for the assistance of needy persons within the United States; and needy persons outside the United States...

http://www.fns.usda.gov/FDD/aboutfd/fd_history.pdf.
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 10:51 PM
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31. All three of those entities still recieve the cheese in many areas. nt
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 11:11 PM
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37. i know, but the wiki article says gov't cheese started being distributed in the 80s.
late 40s/early 50s.
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Two Americas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 01:53 AM
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41. was just about to post that
Thanks Hannah.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 02:39 PM
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24. Honk if you love cheeses.
Cheeses saves.

What would cheeses do?
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 10:46 PM
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28. You know - Ronald Reagan giving away food to poor people, I never trusted.
I always suspected it was laced with swine flu or uranium.
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 10:54 PM
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33. Our government has a reserve of food stuffs stored in case of an
emergency - commodities come from this reserve and is distributed before the expiration dates of the food items.
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 01:24 AM
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38. I know, I know. I was talking about my paranoia during the Reagan administration
You heard about 'government cheese' a lot back then.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 10:48 PM
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29. I remember the cheese deal.
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 10:52 PM
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32. It was also supposed to help subsidize dairy farms, wasn't it?
:shrug:
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 10:56 PM
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36. Yes just as all the food programs are supposed to do. I think *ss tried
to get rid of many of them. And I think our emergency reserves were more or less depleted by that administration. Let us hope we do not need them any time soon.
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 10:54 PM
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34. There was an income eligibility threshhold.
If they told everyone to come on down, either your community qualified as predominantly income-eligible or someone ignored the rules.
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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-07-09 10:54 PM
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35. My grandparents used to get it.
That was the best damn cheese.
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mackerel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 01:31 AM
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40. Where we lived Catholic Charities was in charge of distribution
my Dad was the director so he'd bring home the last block. My Mom would get so mad! It's not Dubliner that's for sure.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 02:39 AM
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42. My family got gov't food in the tin cans with black lettering when I
was in first grade.

I have no idea how one qualified for it; I never thought to ask my parents when I got older, and they are both gone now.

But poor as we were, we did have food, thanks to whatever program that was.

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