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Elwood P Dowd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 12:23 PM
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Did any of you just hear this Ayn Rand loon on Thom Hartmann?
He wants to eliminate the FDA and USDA so private "for profit" corporations can insure our food safety.

:eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes: :eyes:
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Democracyinkind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 12:24 PM
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1. This Ayn Rand meme really sickens me. That woman was a cry for help and everyone took her serious...
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 01:59 PM
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23. That's how I see it too...
I loved her books, but not as something I'd live by, fcol!

That's like people saying the metal band Black Sabbath is some satanic cult... when in reality, the lyrics are a warning to stay the hell away from the devil... pun intended:)
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 12:24 PM
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2. We know from the pedophilia scandals in the Catholic Church and the banking implosion that self-poli
self-policing DOES NOT WORK!
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 12:25 PM
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3. Hartmann loves to have an Ayn Rand loon on every once in a while.
He normally rips them a new one, without them even knowing it!

I am so sick of how these idiots think for profit companies can regulate themselves. 30 years of deregulation have definitively shown that their premise is completely wrong.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 12:25 PM
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4. Here's an idea.
Throw him naked into the woods. Free of all government "interference."

You're on your own. Don't come back.

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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 12:33 PM
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8. Or get KBR to build a shower for him n/t
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sharp_stick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 01:44 PM
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18. No, that would be murder
left alone in the woods he'd be responsible for his own demise at least.
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 01:57 PM
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21. Nah, it wouldn't be murder
It would be "letting the market decide" (in Randtard speak, anyway)
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 01:01 PM
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12. and while you're wandering, stay off the public roads and bridges...
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 12:27 PM
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5. Just like State Farm insured homes in NOLA during Katrina?
How'd that work out?


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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 12:28 PM
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6. Just like the private inspectors who passed that peanut factory. n/t
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CC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 12:30 PM
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7. I guess safe food
and safe drugs should be a privilege not a right.


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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 12:42 PM
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9. Ayn Rand is very popular with young men who have never had
anything but a self inflicted orgasm...

Really, it is non thought philosophy, all based on the worship of the self at all cost...
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 12:44 PM
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10. ... and who live in the basement of their parents' home.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 01:51 PM
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20. *John Galt* aka some guy in moms basement
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 06:48 PM
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25. Curse you...
How did you get my picture...
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 12:59 PM
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11. Ensuring food safety is a drain on profits. It will never happen without
government involvement. That person must be unaware of Upton Sinclair and The Jungle and Teddy Roosevelt and how the FDA got started. And why.
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 01:06 PM
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13. Actually Upton Sinclair was mentioned.
The Randian guy put down anyone who would get their politics from a novel! :wtf:

--imm
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Elwood P Dowd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 01:09 PM
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14. And Thom got his ass on that one. (nm)
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 01:11 PM
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15. Did anyone point out how the novel was an EXPOSE of filthy conditions
in food processing that spurred an investigation and subsequent passage of legislation?
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 01:48 PM
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19. Sure.
That's how Thom brought it up.

That's when the Rand guy tried to slough it off, and Thom got him.

--imm
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 01:17 PM
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16. "Ayn Rand loon" is redundant. nt
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BonnieJW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 01:31 PM
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17. I can't listen to him anymore.
He keeps giving these idiots a platform for their rants. I can get the same thing by listening to Hannity or rush.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 01:59 PM
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22. okay, this analysis of Ayn Rand is well worth reading
cracked me up

heres a snippet: (Rand was whakadoodle!)

'"But then there is the deeply disturbing sex scene. Roark, temporarily banned from architecture, spends his days working in a quarry (“to feel the drill and his body gathered into the single will of pressure, that a shaft of steel might sink slowly into the granite”). It’s there he first meets Dominique, who believes him to be not a genius but the hired help. Nevertheless, she is drawn to the man with hair the color of a ripe orange rind and invents tasks designed to lure him into to her domain. But when Roark takes Dominique, it’s in an act she later describes as rape. “The act of a master taking shameful, contemptuous possession of her was the kind of rapture she had wanted.”'

“I think I willfully misread the rape,” says Daphne Gottlieb, the poet. “But then again, I misread my own rape. The idea of the poem, however, was violence begets violence.”


http://www.incharacter.org/article.php?article=93
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-08-09 02:22 PM
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24. Yeah, even though I half-liked The Fountainhead, that rape scene
really galled me.
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