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tuvor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 01:32 PM Original message |
CBC: Mother can have dead son's sperm harvested, Texas judge rules |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 01:34 PM Response to Original message |
1. How is that HER choice? |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 01:35 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Maybe it was his choice but he didn't get a chance to exercise it. |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 01:37 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. He's dead.. this is just SO wrong.. |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 01:43 PM Response to Reply #7 |
15. Why is it wrong? eom |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 01:52 PM Response to Reply #15 |
25. Because this is literally raping a dead body for sperm. Would you be supportive if it was a comatose |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 02:17 PM Response to Reply #25 |
35. I would care just as little... |
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Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 04:01 PM Response to Reply #35 |
45. You're missing the point - |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 04:38 PM Response to Reply #25 |
47. Yes - if it were that person's wishes to have children... |
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Toucano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 12:53 AM Response to Reply #47 |
75. But they aren't HAVING the children. |
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Heidi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 04:46 AM Response to Reply #75 |
87. Even dead, he'd be a better parent than some I've known, |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 06:56 AM Response to Reply #75 |
90. That all depends on what your definition of have is. |
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enigmatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 01:37 PM Response to Reply #1 |
8. Read the article |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 01:39 PM Response to Reply #1 |
12. It's not Canada, it's TEXAS. And she has control over the body as Primary Next of Kin. nt |
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ddeclue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 01:46 PM Response to Reply #12 |
18. SO??? It's still not right.. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 01:59 PM Response to Reply #18 |
29. Look, as I said elsewhere in this thread, I think it's sick, but it didn't happen in CANADA, |
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verdalaven (495 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 04:44 AM Response to Reply #18 |
86. My response here is the same I use with people who are anti-choice |
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EmilyAnne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 01:01 AM Response to Reply #1 |
77. This is in Texas. nt |
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Politicub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 01:34 PM Response to Original message |
2. Wow - brave new world |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 01:34 PM Response to Original message |
3. That's nuts. |
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MrCoffee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 01:40 PM Response to Reply #3 |
13. Oh I hope that pun was intended! |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 02:46 PM Response to Reply #13 |
39. It takes balls to make a pun like that. |
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LeftinOH (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 01:35 PM Response to Original message |
5. That lady needs to get in touch with Octomom...she needs the money. |
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Vanje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 01:01 AM Response to Reply #5 |
76. They only have 3 names picked out nt |
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Frustratedlady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 01:36 PM Response to Original message |
6. Well, I know I'm dense at times, but how does a dead man's sperm |
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Vanje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 01:08 AM Response to Reply #6 |
79. We collected semen from a deceased goat. |
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Frustratedlady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 05:15 PM Response to Reply #79 |
94. Still active? That's creepy. |
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bunnies (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 01:37 PM Response to Original message |
9. That is seriously fucked up. |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 01:37 PM Response to Original message |
10. I'm not sure why this is anyone else's business, actually. |
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enlightenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 01:48 PM Response to Reply #10 |
22. That's one way of looking at it. |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 02:13 PM Response to Reply #22 |
33. And that's another way of looking at it. |
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enlightenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 02:22 PM Response to Reply #33 |
38. And you're perfectly free to feel that way. |
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Toucano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 12:46 AM Response to Reply #10 |
73. It's a public policy issue. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 01:38 PM Response to Original message |
11. So how's she gonna do this? I think it's a bit .... sick. |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 02:07 PM Response to Reply #11 |
31. Why does she need a "donor" egg, lol? This is TX. She will probably |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 03:15 PM Response to Reply #31 |
40. Why do you assume the worst? |
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Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 03:57 PM Response to Reply #31 |
44. There's a nasty take |
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Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 10:14 PM Response to Reply #11 |
57. See - your comment here - |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 10:57 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. So SHE can fullfill his wish of having children--that's right in the article. |
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Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 11:21 PM Response to Reply #59 |
62. I don't have any opinion on how you "feel," because, |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 12:07 AM Response to Reply #62 |
67. You aren't reading what I wrote. I answered your question. |
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Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 01:04 AM Response to Reply #67 |
78. You're confusing me ......... |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 04:35 AM Response to Reply #78 |
84. At that age, they're all ten feet tall and bulletproof. And apparently, their express wishes do not |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 01:41 PM Response to Original message |
14. Sounds good to me. |
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Sebastian Doyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 01:43 PM Response to Original message |
16. Would it be inappropriate to quote Mick Jagger here? |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 01:45 PM Response to Original message |
17. Um...ew... |
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Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 01:46 PM Response to Original message |
19. This was posted earlier - |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 01:47 PM Response to Original message |
20. Creepy and sick! |
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rampart (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 01:47 PM Response to Original message |
21. darwin kinda missed this time |
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Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 01:50 PM Response to Original message |
23. I am loving this ............ |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 01:56 PM Response to Reply #23 |
28. Excuse me, but I read the article. Are you privy to a more in depth article? It says she wants his |
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Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 03:54 PM Response to Reply #28 |
41. Again, |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 02:07 PM Response to Reply #23 |
32. Well, I didn't "assume"--I ASKED the question. And this would not be the first time |
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Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 03:55 PM Response to Reply #32 |
42. A mother - and even grandmothers - |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 09:01 PM Response to Reply #42 |
51. Who said anything about egg donors? Not me. |
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Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 09:55 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. Yes, I brought up "egg donor," |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 10:00 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. I know all of that. In fact, if you look elsewhere in the thread, I ASKED the QUESTION. |
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Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 10:12 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. That's not even at issue |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 10:44 PM Response to Reply #55 |
58. What, no one can ASK THE QUESTION about what she'll do with the sperm? |
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Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 11:09 PM Response to Reply #58 |
61. Of course there are questions - |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 11:24 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. I stayed with facts. But those facts INVITE questions. |
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Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 11:34 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. I don't think it's all that oddball - |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 12:20 AM Response to Reply #64 |
69. Look, I never got "declarative" about the woman's methodology |
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Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 01:08 AM Response to Reply #69 |
80. All those first person singular pronouns |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 04:29 AM Response to Reply #80 |
83. You are wrong, from first word to last. |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 01:50 PM Response to Original message |
24. IMO, the mother is literally raping her son's body. Procreation is an act of individual Will. |
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leftynyc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 01:55 PM Response to Original message |
26. This sounds like a Greek |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 01:56 PM Response to Original message |
27. The waist on that pinup in your sig pic is freakishly small. |
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Liberal_in_LA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 10:13 PM Response to Reply #27 |
56. it is. |
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ComtesseDeSpair (529 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 02:02 PM Response to Original message |
30. That woman needs therapy... |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 02:15 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. I don't know about babies, but the world sure has a shitload of self-righteous people |
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Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 03:56 PM Response to Reply #34 |
43. And, |
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TorchTheWitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 12:23 AM Response to Reply #34 |
70. This isn't about her |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 04:38 AM Response to Reply #70 |
85. Very well said. nt |
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TorchTheWitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 05:08 AM Response to Reply #85 |
88. Thanks - I'm astonished that the court agreed to this |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 09:33 AM Response to Reply #88 |
91. I found that egregious, too. |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 04:44 PM Response to Reply #30 |
49. Thank you, Senator Frist, for your diagnosis. |
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Fleshdancer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 02:18 PM Response to Original message |
36. She's still deeply mourning her son and can't let go |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 02:21 PM Response to Original message |
37. One word.. |
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Tikki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 04:28 PM Response to Original message |
46. Wow....I thought kids were suppose to have a dad.... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 04:42 PM Response to Original message |
48. That must have been difficult for her. Someday maybe this lady |
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Mari333 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 04:47 PM Response to Original message |
50. judge not lest ye be judged accordingly. nt |
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proud patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 10:01 PM Response to Original message |
54. so sperm lives after death? |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 11:00 PM Response to Reply #54 |
60. For a day, apparently. They have to freeze the corpse to keep it viable. |
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Vanje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 01:14 AM Response to Reply #54 |
81. It has to be frozen nt |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 11:42 PM Response to Original message |
65. Well, I did a little looking, and I found out what she's gonna do with the goods |
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Toucano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 12:50 AM Response to Reply #65 |
74. At the risk of appearing insensitive |
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cherish44 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 11:53 PM Response to Original message |
66. What if the babies conceived with his sperm are girls? |
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TorchTheWitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 12:29 AM Response to Reply #66 |
72. Doesn't matter - the fantasy will be ruined anyway |
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stubtoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 09:51 AM Response to Reply #72 |
93. That's the big issue here, the burden on any resulting children. |
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Toucano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 12:16 AM Response to Original message |
68. On an overpopulated planet with people starving, someone wants to harvest SPERM? |
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Vickers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 12:25 AM Response to Original message |
71. People in pain do some odd shit. |
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TorchTheWitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 05:16 AM Response to Reply #71 |
89. And that's exactly why it shouldn't have been approved |
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tomm2thumbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 01:26 AM Response to Original message |
82. Would this apply to an 11 year old who dies? |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 09:35 AM Response to Reply #82 |
92. Good points, every one. nt |
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