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johnnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 04:28 PM Original message |
Do smokers cost society money? |
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county worker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 04:30 PM Response to Original message |
1. Who has the butter and salt? |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 04:30 PM Response to Original message |
2. we should tax them for not smoking |
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Flabbergasted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 10:35 AM Response to Reply #2 |
119. You're brilliant. nt |
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kiva (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 04:34 PM Response to Original message |
3. I have a hard time believing these people are |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 04:35 PM Response to Original message |
4. Smokers are the only reason social security is solvent |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 04:48 PM Original message |
and now Schip programs n/t |
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lxlxlxl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 04:36 PM Response to Original message |
5. i wouldnt mind paying more tobacco taxes if i didnt know it was going to private health care |
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Uben (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 04:37 PM Response to Original message |
6. Then the basis for raising taxes on cigarettes is bogus |
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Mari333 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 04:39 PM Response to Original message |
7. ooohhh |
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Winterblues (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 04:40 PM Response to Original message |
8. Not to even mention the number one cause of litter is cigarette butts. |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 04:52 PM Response to Reply #8 |
15. oh really? That floating island of garbage in the pacific is made up entirely of cigarette butts? |
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Winterblues (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 05:42 PM Response to Reply #15 |
23. You obviously need some education |
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LooseWilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 12:44 AM Response to Reply #23 |
31. Butts don't even compare to that "island" of plastic bags in the Pacific. |
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Kalyke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 11:57 AM Response to Reply #23 |
48. You obviously need to learn that the entire world is not Texas. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 08:18 AM Response to Reply #23 |
57. So which is number one? 40% or 13% |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 08:17 AM Response to Reply #15 |
56. Seriously |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 03:50 AM Response to Reply #8 |
46. You believe that? Exhibit A: How one's prejudices can override one's reason. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 01:39 AM Response to Reply #8 |
95. The number one cause of litter is plastic. |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 04:40 PM Response to Original message |
9. It's really hard for me to not be obnoxious about this... |
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Uben (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 04:46 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Not me.... |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 06:53 PM Response to Reply #12 |
28. the surgeon general has concluded there is a 0% level of safety for second |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 03:28 AM Response to Reply #28 |
44. ever burned leaves, stood by a campfire, idled in traffic, grilled a steak? |
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sam sarrha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 08:23 AM Response to Reply #44 |
61. BUT CAMPFIRE SMOKE DOESNT KILL 1200 PEOPLE A DAY.. what a dunb ass |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 12:48 PM Response to Reply #61 |
70. neither does exposure to second-hand smoke. |
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sam sarrha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 03:08 PM Response to Reply #70 |
79. ..but it does kill 50,000 aear and cost taxpayers $10 billion..so that makes it ok? |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 12:40 AM Response to Reply #79 |
81. I encourage you to go to the original studies & data, then cross-check the cost estimates with cost |
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sam sarrha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 10:04 AM Response to Reply #81 |
117. yes..because it is statistical and easily bent to hide the truth, which it Corporations pay handsome... |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 01:18 PM Response to Reply #117 |
124. as i said, tobacco corps profits are *up*. that's an inconsistency in your storyline |
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sam sarrha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 07:51 PM Response to Reply #124 |
125. well get this .. |
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LooseWilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 04:22 AM Response to Reply #61 |
109. If there were government agencies working as hard to prove that they did as... |
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sam sarrha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 08:21 AM Response to Reply #28 |
60. there is NO SAFE LEVEL OF EXPOSURE |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 12:41 AM Response to Reply #60 |
82. If there is "no safe level of exposure," then why does the gov't routinely establish |
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ProfessorGAC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 05:09 AM Response to Reply #28 |
114. Then The SG Didn't Read The CDC Report |
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LooseWilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 12:47 AM Response to Reply #12 |
32. I saw a bumper sticker once... |
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Mojorabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 05:41 PM Response to Reply #9 |
22. Me too. nt |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 04:43 PM Response to Original message |
10. Yes, but those healthy old people don't stink like smokers do. |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 04:54 PM Response to Reply #10 |
16. yeah, they just marinate themselves in cheap perfume or cologne |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 05:08 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Maybe, but it's still better than the smell of walking ashtrays. |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 05:19 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. I am personally offended by people who use cheap perfume or |
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sam sarrha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 08:23 AM Response to Reply #21 |
62. both give me hives |
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LooseWilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 12:49 AM Response to Reply #10 |
33. No, healthy old people don't stink like smokers do... |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 01:32 AM Response to Reply #33 |
36. I'm happy to have smoked you out. |
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LooseWilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 01:44 AM Response to Reply #36 |
39. Were you one of those old people that smelled like diaper that rode in my taxi? |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 02:30 AM Response to Reply #39 |
41. You are projecting and fabricating, to fit your delusion. |
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LooseWilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 03:03 AM Response to Reply #41 |
42. There is no projection... I was merely asking if you were someone I'd encountered on the job. |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 09:23 PM Response to Reply #33 |
53. Not all old people stink or wear colognes... |
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laugle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 01:13 AM Response to Reply #53 |
91. Really....some people here said |
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LooseWilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 04:49 AM Response to Reply #91 |
111. Can we tax the dumb, too?... |
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LooseWilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 03:35 AM Response to Reply #53 |
104. As a fellow smoker, I will concede your point. |
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Heidi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 10:09 AM Response to Reply #33 |
68. You're out of line and flat wrong. Old does not necessarily equal incontinent. |
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laugle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 01:37 AM Response to Reply #68 |
94. Your funny.....yeah, and how about all those |
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LooseWilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 03:52 AM Response to Reply #68 |
106. You are right. |
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Heidi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 04:20 AM Response to Reply #106 |
108. I'm a smoker and I _know_ |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 01:49 AM Response to Reply #10 |
101. Thankfully it looks like e-cigarettes are growing ground quite readily. |
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evolve45 (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 04:43 PM Response to Original message |
11. Let em smoke |
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Taitertots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 04:48 PM Response to Original message |
13. You do better for the earth to drive your car and be a fat ass |
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gratuitous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 04:48 PM Response to Original message |
14. I'd be interested in the report's methodology |
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LooseWilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 12:53 AM Response to Reply #14 |
34. Ahh, force them to smoke outside in the winter... |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 08:20 AM Response to Reply #34 |
59. And don't forget to not give them ashtrays and then get mad at the butts on the ground! |
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sam sarrha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 08:28 AM Response to Reply #59 |
63. i hear in the south you cant graduate 4th grade without smoking 2 years |
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LooseWilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 03:39 AM Response to Reply #63 |
105. Are you sure it's not the third hand smoke? (n/t) |
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Viking12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 08:33 AM Response to Reply #14 |
65. Study available here... |
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gratuitous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 02:54 PM Response to Reply #65 |
77. Thank you |
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Mari333 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 04:56 PM Response to Original message |
17. ah hahahaha |
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pleah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 05:14 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. Or this guy. |
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ProgrezivIndie (165 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 05:17 PM Response to Original message |
20. I'm tired of all these BS statistics, aren't you? |
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Uben (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 05:47 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. How dare you? |
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laugle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 01:40 AM Response to Reply #24 |
96. You retired at 45? |
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LooseWilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 01:00 AM Response to Reply #20 |
35. Cheers !! |
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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 03:17 AM Response to Reply #35 |
43. I buried my smoker dad who died of lung cancer in January. |
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LooseWilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 04:00 AM Response to Reply #43 |
107. My grandma died of lung cancer when I was... too young to remember clearly. |
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Kalyke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 12:02 PM Response to Reply #20 |
49. I have acute sinutitus and have been to the doctor for that numerous time. |
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sam sarrha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 08:36 AM Response to Reply #20 |
66. The average age of starting is 13, so half start before that, /thats a true stat and 1200 die a day |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 09:58 AM Response to Reply #66 |
67. Don't dismiss anecdotes completely. |
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sam sarrha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 01:55 PM Response to Reply #67 |
71. they have no right to expose me or others to carcinogenic products which have NO safe level exposure |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 04:02 PM Response to Reply #71 |
80. Get over what, exactly? n/t |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 01:03 AM Response to Reply #71 |
88. Poor thing, smokers chasing you, blowing smoke in your face everywhere - it's so *unfair*! |
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sam sarrha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 11:03 AM Response to Reply #88 |
123. do you live in the south.. you are really getting desperate with the baby talk |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 02:37 AM Response to Reply #67 |
102. auto accidents: leading cause of death ages 4-34; children, teens, young adults. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 12:52 AM Response to Reply #66 |
83. Obsession is a bitch, too. Tends to make common sense fly out the window. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 01:48 AM Response to Reply #66 |
100. Japan. Your biases are clouding the reality. It's not cigarettes that are the significant... |
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LooseWilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 04:37 AM Response to Reply #66 |
110. Where do you get that 1200 a day stat? |
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Zodiak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 06:01 PM Response to Original message |
25. Everyone dies once |
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eppur_se_muova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 06:11 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. A coward dies a thousand times, a hero dies but once. |
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sam sarrha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-08-09 06:49 PM Response to Original message |
27. that is bullshit.. tired Tired TIRED of hearing this.. it isnt true, 1200 die daily from Tobacco and |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 12:31 AM Response to Reply #27 |
29. The point is |
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sam sarrha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 08:21 PM Response to Reply #29 |
51. wages they didnt make , taxes they didnt pay, children they didnt kiss.. the article didnt factor in |
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obiwan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 05:14 AM Response to Reply #29 |
115. Smokers rack up substantially higher health care costs while they are still alive. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 03:41 AM Response to Reply #27 |
45. children's asthma? sorry, rates have gone up while the % of smokers in the population has gone down |
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sam sarrha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 08:24 PM Response to Reply #45 |
52. i am sorry you are so easily deceived by the ReThugs.. but ignorance is bliss, enjoy it |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 06:53 AM Response to Reply #52 |
54. it's you who's enjoying it. |
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sam sarrha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 08:14 AM Response to Reply #54 |
55. you miss the point, just because youth smokers are down cause of cost, doesnt mean there |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 12:44 PM Response to Reply #55 |
69. i made three points. % smokers: down. childhood asthma: up. profits: up. |
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sam sarrha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 02:33 PM Response to Reply #69 |
73. use |
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sam sarrha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 02:43 PM Response to Reply #69 |
74. you will use one post, not proven to be true, to to make you feel good about your denial. in spite |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 01:09 AM Response to Reply #74 |
90. You seem to think you're a mind-reader, but you're not. |
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sam sarrha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 10:49 AM Response to Reply #90 |
121. but you seem to think you can actually have a good conversation... |
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sam sarrha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 02:30 PM Response to Reply #54 |
72. so you negate all the suffering and ok that nearly 400,000 people die a year addicted as children, |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 01:41 AM Response to Reply #45 |
97. All that particalized rubber in the air. Japanese people don't have nearly the health problems... |
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kiva (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 10:54 AM Response to Reply #45 |
122. I also find that interesting. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 08:17 PM Response to Reply #122 |
128. Not only that, the rates have gone up even with the bans taking place. It's a bullshit lie. |
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LooseWilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 04:58 AM Response to Reply #27 |
112. I started smoking as an adult. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 08:11 PM Response to Reply #112 |
127. Same here, but I quit because of the BS tax hike. |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 12:40 AM Response to Original message |
30. 10 years of not paying taxes, too. |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 01:35 AM Response to Original message |
37. RJ Reynolds made that pitch to Czechoslovakia back in the mid 80s |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 01:40 AM Response to Original message |
38. even though non-smokers may live an average of 10 years longer... |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 01:49 AM Response to Original message |
40. A bullet in the head of everyone when they turn 50 will save $$$ too. |
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LooseWilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 05:05 AM Response to Reply #40 |
113. And ban obesity. |
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4_TN_TITANS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 11:54 AM Response to Original message |
47. My health insurance is about to start billing an extra $50 / mo |
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sam sarrha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 02:55 PM Response to Reply #47 |
78. due to big tobacco bribing politicians, its the only way to stop it, get people to quit, cant afford |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 12:58 AM Response to Reply #78 |
85. "Can't afford it" - Right, that's why Japan & France have it - no one smokes in those countries!!! |
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sam sarrha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 10:32 AM Response to Reply #85 |
118. look they have much better economies CEO' only get 20x lowst paid employee, we'r a 3rd world country |
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ItNerd4life (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-09-09 12:44 PM Response to Original message |
50. If you include the extra taxes smoker's pay, more people should smoke. |
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HarukaTheTrophyWife (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 08:19 AM Response to Original message |
58. Yep and overweight people cost money and alcoholics cost money |
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sam sarrha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 02:49 PM Response to Reply #58 |
76. ..i guess tobacco killing half a million people a yr addicted as children is a moot point |
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Viking12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 08:30 AM Response to Original message |
64. As usual, the "Dutch study" is misrepresented |
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sam sarrha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-10-09 02:47 PM Response to Reply #64 |
75. and the generational costs of surviving spouses children falling into a cycle of poverty after |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 12:59 AM Response to Reply #75 |
86. When they're fat? |
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sam sarrha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 10:47 AM Response to Reply #86 |
120. you are really an ugly stupid person.. i think you are just evil, nothing good about you at all |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-12-09 02:44 PM Response to Reply #120 |
130. project much? |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 12:56 AM Response to Reply #64 |
84. Not sure what your point is. The study says obesity is more expensive than smoking up to age 56. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 01:43 AM Response to Reply #64 |
98. "Lost productivity" on people who die when they stop being productive? |
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laugle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 01:03 AM Response to Original message |
87. It would be interesting to see a study on |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 01:06 AM Response to Reply #87 |
89. I think it would be interesting to see a study of the effect of obsessing over other people's |
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laugle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 01:24 AM Response to Reply #89 |
92. Once you vote to tax a certain segment of people, you |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 01:33 AM Response to Reply #92 |
93. With smoking, it's a two-fer:, three-fer, four-fer:smokers = minority (1/4) of adults, also tend to |
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laugle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 01:46 AM Response to Reply #93 |
99. It's not only the upper middle that gets their |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 03:07 AM Response to Original message |
103. Your logic is wrong. Healthy people are far more productive than unhealthy people. |
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LooseWilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 05:35 AM Response to Reply #103 |
116. Are you sure you're not being prejudicial here? |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 08:07 PM Response to Reply #103 |
126. Smokers account for the vast majority of low wage jobs in the country. |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-11-09 08:22 PM Response to Reply #103 |
129. And I am tired of paying for health care from immigrants, soda drinkers, non-amish people, etc |
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opihimoimoi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-12-09 02:51 PM Response to Original message |
131. I dunno about smokers but I do know the GOP cost us BIG BUCKs |
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