I just had a "non-Neocon" young Republican tell me that FDR and Truman would be Republicans today!

[YOY]

Holding...in...the...laughter...

Oh Jesus...

I had to follow up by telling him that by today's standards Eisenhower would be called a "Commie"/"Socialist". He has no comeback.

Holding...in...the...laughter...

[Warpy]

1. I don't hold in the laughter

It's the only way to answer somebody that loony.

[YOY]

4. I got that distinct "Naive Mormon" feeling from him.

He seemed so nice...and he expressed dislike of Neocons...of which he claimed all outspoken Republicans in power were.

Had to spare his feelings from that one.

[Jackpine Radical]

2. I usually try to get through to these people with pictures.

I tell them that immersing themselves in de Nile:


is very dangerous because there are crocodiles in there.

[Politicalboi]

15. Man

Is that guy nuts? Here Crockie Crockie.

[No More Bushbots]

3. Did you offer him your teabag?

[YOY]

5. No...I think he was really a Democrat in denile.

Didn't seem to be a Rushbot.

[onehandle]

6. FDR and Truman could never screw up the country as much as Republicans have.

So they could never be Republicans.

[ZombieHorde]

14. If you were the wrong race, FDR could screw you over fairly well. nt

[guitar man]

7. I have no doubt

he was repeating what he heard some rw talking head spout off somewhere, that's usually where the cognitive disconnect starts with these people.

[endarkenment]

8. That's only fair as Ike and that fuck Nixon would be liberal Democrats.

[YOY]

10. Ike would...Nixon goes pretty DLC to me.

Sure he did create the EPA but he was pretty Neocon prototype IMHO.

[Cheap_Trick]

9. And Lincoln would be a Dem today.

Repugs today would be all for slavery.

[stray cat]

11. Because republicans are basically dead as well - or at least some are brain dead?

[G_j]

12. warning

talking to people like that can kill brain cells.

[riderinthestorm]

13. Well, there's a conservative news mag trying to claim Carter as one of their own today. nt

[Ian David]

16. Eisenhower was "in the closet." Sounds Republican to me. n/t

[corruptmewithpower]

17. I always thought Reagan stole his economics from JFK.

[zipplewrath]

18. Not sure how

FDR started the largest of the social welfare programs that still exist today.

Truman forced the army to desegregate, and fought a "police action" in Korea.

Which one of those things qualifies him as a member of the GOP?"

[Catshrink]

19. FDR? Nah. He had ideas and solutions.

Republicans have talking points and empty rhetoric.

[sinkingfeeling]

20. Was he a recent MBA graduate?

[YOY]

21. No, but I am.

You have a problem with that?

Are MBAs all Republicans to you?

Meh...it's always the same flipping posters who know everything about your profession and those who work it...but who do they come whining to when they need a budget balanced?

[sinkingfeeling]

22. Yeah, look where all the MBA's have gotten us in the last 25 years.

[YOY]

23. Oh you mean the legacy assholes?

Thanks for confusing the rest of us to those who get their careers on a silver platter. You think legacies actually start in the mailroom or assistant positions like the rest of us? The rest of us never get anywhere near the top unless we're extremely weasely or very good at what we do on our own.

Like they actually listened in class? They had a job set up even if they failed and their parents money shows it.

You clearly have no idea what you are talking about...but hey label an entire profession based on the ones at the top by virtue of inheritance of the keys to the kingdom.

Now if you cannot seperate the two groups then I suggest you start attacking ALL doctors because of the assholes earning millions who don't want socialized medical care or ALL lawyers because of corporate lawyers who'd defend anything without principles as long as they are paid right.

You'll find they are both at the top of their food chains as well.

[sinkingfeeling]

24. Well, I'll bet you have some career group you're not so fond of either. I have spent years around

college majors in the ****** School of Business and decades fighting the 'bean counters' in the corporate world. MBA holders just fall with used-car salesmen in my book. Sorry, you make things so deeply personal. I thought that your friend's confusion about history/reality was reminiscent of George W. Bush, MBA. What is it that you do that is so different from the rest of the profession?

[YOY]

25. I handle invoices and agreements between my company and contracting companies.

I make sure that those 200 employees and contractors in department get paid and that the correct journals are accounted for as the money they are paid with comes from very particular entities that like to know exactly where their money is going.

I do per scale financial forecasts as well as maintain historical data on the costs of particular projects and the cost effectiveness and ROI on new and past projects.

May I add that your tax dollar is involved in our income in addition to paying passengers. Damn us bean counters but we are needed because money does not grow on trees.

This includes IT Projects and infrastructural projects both telecomunitory (sp?) and those that are true physical infrastructural transportation improvements. I have to use people skills that most people simply do not possess including my multilingual abilities (7 languages+English), multicultural tool set that would make a State Department Protocol expert Blush (and I have impressed a State Department Protocol expert I may add) and my unique ability to pronounce everybody's name correctly regardless of nationality to deal with a large department that includes people from all corners of the globe.

I assure you. A temp cannot do it. My degree did not come out of a crackerjack box and I do not drive a Mercedes Benz. I drive a Buick Century and am still paying my student loans off.

Daddy didn't pay for it. I am still paying it off. I worked full time in undergrad and graduate and I will not be insulted for my education, skill set, nor will I allow everyone with my education to be pin holed with the legacy MBA President's failures.

I have railed against the theories of both a "retail econonmy" and "trickle down economics" but in the MBA world money talks and only the wise old professor who points out that high yeild income comes with incredible risk has a voice in those schools, but his words are never put into practice by those who need everything spelled out to them. "Reap the whirlwind motherfuckers." I say. If I knew what they were doing and they didn't then they were either the best actors you've ever seen or the dumbest bunch of fucks you've ever seen. Either way...buch of legacy trust fund fuckheads who can kiss my ass before I ever help them.

I assure you I have been called some very nasty names by my "classmates" who would never search as hard for a job nor work as hard as I.

Sissy little legacies don't even use their educations. They just go wherever by virtue of name and connections.

and the kid ain't my friend. I just met him.

[sinkingfeeling]

28. I'm happy for you that you're proud of your education. I'm impressed with your multi-language

capibilities. With the exception of multilingual clients/coworkers, I have done much of the same type of work.

[YOY]

29. Please realize that condemning all of us because of the legacies is just wrong.

I've known them. They really are worthless bastards who talk big and play golf with each other but really know nothing. I know one stuffed shirt who brags about golfing with General Boykin (the top brass guy who said that "our god is greater than theirs".) He was looking for work last I saw him...was with some lobbying group in the Bush era. Real fuckstick who wouldn't help you unless you repaid him in spades.

Some MBAs really do know their shit. You would be surprised. And there are a few "liberal MBAs" here at DU who severely dislike being tied together with those...people...

Any MBA who cannot finish this statement "With any investment with a high rate of return comes..." with the proper "...a significantly increased risk (BETA)." is most likely a legacy or went to a crap school and didn't pay attention. Even if they know it, many sure as hell didn't apply it to the origins of the fiscal shitstorm that is going on right now.

Those that caused it truly deserve to "reap the whirlwind." I bet nearly every last one at the top is either a legacy or a fantastic conman.

[H2O Man]

26. Interesting.

Normally, I wouldn't think that many of the young republicans are worth conversing with, except in the context of a public debate. But if this young person is able to see some good in FDR, then there is hope for him.

His viewpoint is confused, of course. But in time, real life will intrude.

[YOY]

27. He struck me as a the naive young Mormon type.

I just me the kid and noticed that he worked a bit in Denver during the primaries. I might be working on him in a non-intrusive but informative manner. He openly said "yuck" when I mentioned the Limbaugh lister over by my desk.

As the old joke goes "What do you call an informed Republican?"

[KharmaTrain]

30. Spin His Head With Nixon...

He formed the EPA...imposed price controls and opened contacts with the "Red" Chinese.

Don't even try to confuse his addled brain with Teddy Roosevelt.

[Romulox]

31. I don't see much difference between Bush 41 and modern DLCers.

Same economics, foreign, social policies. :shrug: