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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 08:41 PM
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AP Newsbreak: Obama looks at climate engineering
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D97ECHLG1&show_article=1

WASHINGTON (AP) - The president's new science adviser said Wednesday that global warming is so dire, the Obama administration is discussing radical technologies to cool Earth's air.

John Holdren told The Associated Press in his first interview since being confirmed last month that the idea of geoengineering the climate is being discussed. One such extreme option includes shooting pollution particles into the upper atmosphere to reflect the sun's rays. Holdren said such an experimental measure would only be used as a last resort.

"It's got to be looked at," he said. "We don't have the luxury of taking any approach off the table."

Holdren outlined several "tipping points" involving global warming that could be fast approaching. Once such milestones are reached, such as complete loss of summer sea ice in the Arctic, it increases chances of "really intolerable consequences," he said.

Twice in a half-hour interview, Holdren compared global warming to being "in a car with bad brakes driving toward a cliff in the fog."

At first, Holdren characterized the potential need to technologically tinker with the climate as just his personal view. However, he went on to say he has raised it in administration discussions.

Holdren, a 65-year-old physicist, is far from alone in taking geoengineering more seriously. The National Academy of Science is making climate tinkering the subject of its first workshop in its new multidiscipline climate challenges program. The British parliament has also discussed the idea

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But Holdren noted that shooting particles into the air—making an artificial volcano as one Nobel laureate has suggested—could have grave side effects and would not completely solve all the problems from soaring greenhouse gas emissions. So such actions could not be taken lightly, he said.

Still, "we might get desperate enough to want to use it," he added.
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In other words if they have to use Chemtrails they will do it
their desperate ...

Anything is on the table now
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RT Atlanta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 08:43 PM
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1. Wow
And, unfortunately, we still have "head in the sand" global warming deniers.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 08:48 PM
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2. I predicted that Big Oil would use sulphur in the upper atmosphere....
rather than allow alternate energy.

Control of oil is key to US global hegemony.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 08:51 PM
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4. ........
:thumbsup:
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 09:06 PM
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5. ... Is that a chemtrail
Seems like a dream ......................chemtrail
:rofl:
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 08:38 AM
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10. .............
Edited on Fri Apr-10-09 08:38 AM by seemslikeadream
Rosalind Peterson

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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 09:07 AM
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11. no silly it is a persistant contrail
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 09:13 PM
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7. Problem is that it could kill the ozone layer....
...

"One of the problems of putting sulphate particles in the stratosphere is that it would destroy the
ozone layer; so you might solve the global warming problem, but then we'd all die of that."

....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4762720.stm


"The knowledge that we maybe could engineer our way out of climate problems inevitably lessens the political will to reduce emissions" - David Keith

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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 08:50 PM
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3. Heres a article in the Wall Street Journal
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123920773503201665.html

WASHINGTON -- The president's new science adviser said Wednesday that global warming is so dire, the Obama administration is discussing radical technologies to cool Earth's air.

John Holdren told the Associated Press in his first interview since being confirmed last month that the idea of geoengineering the climate is being discussed. One such extreme option includes shooting pollution particles into the upper atmosphere to reflect the sun's rays. Mr. Holdren said such an experimental measure would only be used as a last resort.

"It's got to be looked at," he said. "We don't have the luxury of taking any approach off the table."

Mr. Holdren outlined several "tipping points" involving global warming that could be fast approaching. Once such milestones are reached, such as complete loss of summer sea ice in the Arctic, it increases chances of "really intolerable consequences," he said.

Twice in a half-hour interview, Mr. Holdren compared global warming to being "in a car with bad brakes driving toward a cliff in the fog."
more...

So I think this is a way of telling people get ready chemtrails are real
and so many people have been telling that they are and they have been laughed at

we are so screwed
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 09:09 PM
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6. "we are so screwed "
yeah- but it's going to be one hell of a ride from here on out...:popcorn:
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 09:22 PM
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8. Take a deep breath and DIE folks!!! TINFOIL-hatters were right!!!
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 11:49 PM
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12. kick
:kick:
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-09-09 09:23 PM
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9. Obama is taking Bush's old program to a new level.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 11:52 PM
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13. OPERATION POPEYE - Make Mud, Not War


Make Mud, Not War
In 1966 the 54th Weather Reconnaissance Squadron of the U.S. Air Force engaged in an aggressive cloud-seeding program over North Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia. By lacing clouds with silver iodide, the military hoped to extend the monsoon season and increase the amount of mud along the paths and roads of the Ho Chi Minh Trail, restricting enemy movement. The initial project reported positive results, and the effort was continued from 1967 to 1972 under the code name Operation Motorpool. Although some inside the operation said their attempts to “make mud, not war” impeded the movement of enemy supplies, evidence for that is “unverifiable.”

http://discovermagazine.com/2008/jun/06-biggest-weather-weather-change-flubs-in-history
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 11:56 PM
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14. Transcript of the US Senate Hearing on Weather Modification of March 20, 1974
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iamthebandfanman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-11-09 01:12 AM
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15. can this sort of technology
be used to terra form a planet?


i like that this sorta thing could produce that in the long haul, but it really is just a sham to keep making us use oil...

time will tell i guess
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