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yy4me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 11:26 AM
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Indictment of Bush Officials may come in Days
Edited on Fri Apr-10-09 11:38 AM by yy4me
Source: ImpeachBushNow.org

Headline and article just rec'd via e-mail from ImpeachBushNow.org. Quotes that Newsweek is breaking the story.

"Breaking News: Indictment of Bush Officials may come in Days. Newsweek Breaks shocking new revelations about disappeardd persons."

Story follows.

No link yet.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 11:28 AM
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1. check your spelling in the title/subject
please add link when you find it
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POAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 11:30 AM
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2. Yea I thought they were
being inducted into the military to serve in Iraq. Either way, inductment or indictment it's all good.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 11:37 AM
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7. They must be getting inducted into the Hall of Shame.
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 11:32 AM
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3. Or it may not
I'm not optimistic about this. I still expect nothing to happen to anyone, except possibly some scapegoats at the bottom.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 11:33 AM
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4. Here's a link, but it's a hope, not a reality...
http://democratsagainstthedlc.blogspot.com/2009/04/indictment-of-bush-officials-may-come.html

Indictment of Bush Officials May Come in Days


Publicizing the indictment movement requires placing newspaper ads, organizing national call-in days to pressure Congressional representatives, intensive media work, teach-ins and educational forums. Please consider taking a moment right now to make a donation to this new movement for the indictment of Bush.

* The imminent indictment in Spanish courts of former officials of the Bush Administration is being applauded by civil and human rights organizations and legal scholars. The popular wave of support for indictment of Bush officials will inevitably lead to Bush himself.

* Newsweek Magazine blew open more shocking news about Bush' system of kidnapping, secret prisons and torture. A secret Red Cross report indicates that many kidnapped and tortured people were turned into "disappeared persons" by the CIA under instructions from Bush and Cheney. A former Bush administration official told Newsweek's Michael Isikoff that the information had been hidden from the Red Cross. "The majority of the people in the CIA program are unaccounted for. We don't know what happened to them," a human rights investigator told Isikoff.

* Like Bush, former Chilean dictator Augusto Pinochet, thought his power would shield him from criminal prosecution when his regime kidnapped and tortured and assassinated individuals who became known as the "disappeared." It was when Spanish courts brought indictments against Pinochet that everything changed. As Michael Ratner, president of the Center for Constitutional Rights said, "the importance of this investigation can not be understated. Contrary to statements by some, the Spanish investigations are not 'symbolic.' Just ask Augusto Pinochet, who was stranded under house arrest in England and who ultimately faced criminal charges in Chile because of the pressure of the Spanish courts. If and when arrest warrants are issued, 24 countries in Europe are obligated to enforce them. The world is getting smaller for the torture conspirators.”

Ramsey Clark, former U.S. Attorney General has called for the prosecution of Bush and other high officials in the United States, stating, "The greatest danger arising from impunity for President Bush and his cohorts would be that all subsequent officials will feel secure in committing the same crimes and the people, having failed to compel impeachment for such open, notorious and egregious crimes, will feel even more helpless to prevent them. Ultimately the power and the responsibility to prevent criminal acts by government is with the people."

Now is the time for massive outreach and publicity. This requires newspaper ads, organizing national call-in days to pressure Congressional representatives, intensive media work, teach-ins and educational forums, and providing literature for people of conscience to distribute in cities and towns across the country. Please consider taking a moment right now to make a donation to this new movement for the indictment of Bush. There is no time to spare. The time to act is now and we will.

--All of us at IndictBushNow.org
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 11:33 AM
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5. I'll believe it when/if I see them in prison....
....then and only then...if the IRAN CONTRA scandal had accomplished anything we probably wouldn't even be here at DU discussing any of this. :nopity:
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 11:53 AM
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14. JUS_THE_FACTS NAILS IT
it sickens me to see DUers saying Obama has more important things to do - NO HE DOES NOT - holding people accountable for the mess they made should be priority number 1 - at the very least the investigations should have started WHILE he was taking on other issues - if nothing is done, that's pretty much right up there with an endorsement
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 12:00 PM
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17. Thank You Skittles....there needs to be some ASS KICKIN' GOIN' ON....
....serious ASS KICKIN'...straight to the Hauge...the SCOTUS can't be trusted anymore either. :rant:

:hi:
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 04:53 PM
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30. I agree.
We can't move forward until we clean up the past.
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Dennis Donovan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 11:34 AM
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6. Is this going to be the Spanish indictment?
http://www.pubrecord.org/torture/822.html?task=view

Ex-Bush Officials May Be Indicted in Spain This Week For Torture
Written by William Fisher
Tuesday, 07 April 2009 10:20
By William Fisher

Human rights organizations and legal scholars are applauding the efforts of Spanish lawyers in seeking the indictment of six former officials of the administration of President George W. Bush in connection with the torture of detainees at the U.S. military's Guantanamo Bay prison.

Spanish prosecutors may decide this week whether to proceed with an investigation. The prosecutors were asked to review the case by Baltasar Garzon, the crusading investigative judge who ordered the arrest of the former Chilean dictator Augusto Pinochet in 1998.

The official said that it was “highly probable” that the case would go forward and that it could lead to arrest warrants.

Garzon asked for the review following a complaint filed by Spanish human rights lawyers, who could pursue the case in court even if prosecutors decide not to take it further. This occurred in the Pinochet case.

The U.S. officials involved in the investigation include former U.S. Attorney General Alberto Gonzales; John Yoo, the former Justice Department lawyer who wrote secret legal opinions saying President George W. Bush had the authority to circumvent the Geneva Conventions, Douglas Feith, the former undersecretary of defense for policy; William Haynes II, former general counsel for the Department of Defense; Jay Bybee, Yoo's former boss at the Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel and now a Federal judge; and David Addington, chief of staff and legal adviser to former Vice President Dick Cheney.

The investigation would likely focus on whether these officials violated international law by providing a legal justification for the torture. It was triggered by a complaint filed by the Association for the Dignity of Inmates, a Spanish legal rights organization.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 11:40 AM
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10. Yes, I gather that it does refer to Spanish indictments. What a Goddam shame.
Edited on Fri Apr-10-09 11:41 AM by Jackpine Radical
I mean that literally. It is shameful that our country, with a Democratic administration, seems to be dropping the ball so badly that a foreign nation has to be the one to lead the way in indicting American war criminals.
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Dennis Donovan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 11:51 AM
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12. Crimes committed BY Americans in the NAME of America should be...
...TRIED in America. Since grade school, our grand system of govt and the "rule of law" has been piped and underscored into my consciousness. It would be a DAMN shame to come to believe otherwise because they won't prosecute the Bush Crime Family. Shit, why not let the Gotti's out of jail, while they're at it?:shrug:
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 12:05 PM
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18. I don't trust our system anymore...if the SCOTUS hadn't fucked us back in 2001....
Edited on Fri Apr-10-09 12:17 PM by jus_the_facts
....and as I said above...if IRAN CONTRA had gotten these bastards put away then there'd be a HUGE difference in our world today.
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 12:29 PM
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22. Uh . . .
Not to blanket your excitement or anything like that, but it's rather difficult to get an indictment when the investigation hasn't even begun, don't you think?

This is gonna be another one of those "Karl Rove has been secretly indicted and is locked down in a Washington law firm which is also locked down and he has three working days or twenty-four hours whichever is more to get his personal affairs in order because he has been secretly indicted and there is a sealed indictment and you know we're all excited about this because we're flaming asses who don't know reality if it slaps us in the face with a wet codpiece" extravaganzas, isn't it?

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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 11:38 AM
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8. Can't wait to see Bush behind bars - on Newsweek's cover
That would be a picture remembered for centuries
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 11:56 AM
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EOTE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 01:28 PM
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26. Attacks? Clinton kept the country safe for 8 years.
Less than 1/10th the people died due to terrorism in this country than died under your fuck buddy bush's watch. Are you proud that his ignorance and laziness caused the death of 3000 Americans and thousands more overseas? And Clinton kept us safe without resorting to constant calls for us to be afraid of the latest boogiemen. And the economy flourished under Clinton and DIED under Bush. Bush was the most miserable, by far worst president this country has ever had. He oversaw nothing destruction and death. Are you so intellectually deficient you don't understand the differences between these two administrations? That was a rhetorical question because I already know the answer. Oh, and since this post has been relying a bit too much on facts for my tastes, I'll leave you with this. You're an asshole and a fucking moron. It's people like you who are responsible for the sorry shape of the country right now. Enjoy the rest of your sorry life you dumb fuck freeper.
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nilram Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 11:40 AM
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9. By courts in Spain, maybe. We outsource justice ... -nt
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Platypus Donating Member (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 11:55 AM
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15. Well...
...we outsourced the torture, so there's a certain symmetry to this.
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 11:41 AM
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11. That word again, may.
I'll believe it when I see it.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 11:53 AM
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13. Bigfoot may be captured in Days.
I got that from an email from some website.

No link yet.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 12:07 PM
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19. I read that same email...
Something about Elvis being sent years ago on a top secret government mission by the president, to bring back the big hairy one alive or dead.

Nobody in Washington has any courage or patriotism left, IMHO. It's all about their political ambition, country and rule of law be damned. When we take out the US Constitution and dust it off and read it, we are looking back into our past. Do we burn that too, so that we can't "Look Back"
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 12:16 PM
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20. If this is a "Rove indicted in 48 hours" thing, I'm going to have to hurt somebody.
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hugo_from_TN Donating Member (895 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 12:19 PM
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21. Is that "business days" ?
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 01:41 PM
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27. No -- biblical "days"
Like "on the third day," which was about 250 million years after the second "day"
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 01:01 PM
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23. Oh how I wish this were true. I SO want it to happen. but I cannot forget .......
.... Jason Leopold.



I recall what he wrote on may 13, 2006.

Valerie Plame is still without the career she so loved and Karl Rove, rather than being in jail, is writing political pornography in the Murdoch-owned Wall Street Journal.

I'll wait to cheer for this because my tired old heart has no tolerance for an emotional roller coaster ride.

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Mira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 01:27 PM
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25. That was something to forget, wasn't it! The Germans have
a saying: "Jubilant to the heavens, then destroyed on the ground" that surely applied to me then.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 01:19 PM
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24. Don't hold your breath!
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 01:47 PM
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28. Is Jason Leopold working on this story? nt
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jtrockville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-11-09 12:19 PM
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31. He's a great writer, but sadly it turns out to be mostly fiction.
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WA98296 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 02:21 PM
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29. "disappeared persons".....is Randi Rhodes among them?
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-11-09 02:01 PM
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32. And Sibel.... n/t
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