President's Pizza Preference Poo Pooed.....

[monmouth]

Information from: Chicago Tribune, http://www.chicagotribune.com

President is having a party at the White House tonight (140 ppl.) and ordered pizza from St. Louis. He tasted it during the campaign and evidently loved it. So, okay, now Chicago deep pan guys are miffed. I don't think they're really serious but geez....

[Sebastian Doyle]

1. PIZZAGATE!!!11!!!!

Whatever will Glenn BecKKK say about this :wow:

[Cha]

35. Absofreakin'lutely..he

won't be able to stop the floodgate of tears.

[MrPerson]

2. Giordano's is teh best.

[marmar]

Yup. I really like Giordano's......

..... What the hell happened to Gino's East? They've completely gone into the crapper.

[marmar]

28. Pizza Papalis, right here in Motown. It's the best Chicago-style pizza outside of Chicago.

:9

[jeffrey_X]

52. No..it's not really that good, unless you like nothing but crust and cheese

that will sit in your gut for hours.

I've lived in Chicago for more than 15 years and will never eat it again. there is far better pizza in Chicago than Giordano's.

[MrPerson]

53. I lived there 1980-1983. I had many different pizzas.

I went back in 2007 and had Giordano's. I'm sure there are better ones. But that would involve staying in Chicago for a long period of time to find out.

[riderinthestorm]

72. Oh yeah baby. It's got to be Giordanos.

I can't believe with all the Chicago Style pizzerias, that Obama's searching out St. Louis pizza. The Medici - the restaurant in Hyde Park in Chicago that the Obamas frequented before he got "famous" - is all about pizza as well. Really excellent pizza.

Ah well. Maybe he's just trying to be egalitarian - trying to throw some biz St. Louis' way....

[hlthe2b]

3. I still like thin crust pizza... I'm sick of the bready overdose...

Sorry, Chicago Deep Pan guys. And, I might add, I don't find good think crust pizza in Denver--which might be a good thing weight-wise.

[MrPerson]

4. The reason thick crust pizza is not big everywhere...

Takes forever to make. Most people don't wanna wait.

[GoCubsGo]

22. Not all Chicago Deep Pan has thick crusts...

It all depend on who makes it. BTW, I am a Chicago native. I was in high school when I had my first deep dish. We grew up eating thin crust, and despite what others say, there's lots of great thin-crust pizza in Chicago.

BTW, what the article fails to mention is that this guy from St. Louis is coming to town anyway to visit his girlfriend. The Obamas are merely taking advantage of his offer to stop by to make dinner. I read that somewhere else earlier today...

[Cha]

36. Thanks, that answered my burning question

of .."Is he going to have it flown in?!" That sounds really neat..bringing back some love from the campaign trail.

[Cirque du So-What]

23. Maybe it's the altitude in Denver

Probably plays hob with getting the proper consistency with a pan-style crust, being a mile high & all.

[JerseygirlCT]

56. Yup, me too.

I think that Chicago style stuff is another thing altogether, actually. And I understand why people love it. But it's not pizza.

I want a nice, thin crust - it ought to crack when you pick it up and fold it over slightly. Lots of good cheese, and not too much sauce. Basically, the sort of stuff you could pick up at most any strip mall when I was growing up in NJ, but which seems hard to find everywhere but NY and NJ!

[CTyankee]

5. I'm upset. How great it was when Pres. Clinton visited us in New Haven!

We have the world's greatest pizza in New Haven, Sally's and Pepe's and Modern's, when they were law students at Yale! That was the best!

Now we have a midwestern president and oh, no! No more east coast pizza!

thank god he's coming to Martha's Vineyard (part of Massachusetts) in August! It will help.

[MuseRider]

8. Best Pizza I ever had

was in New Haven. I do not recall the name of the place, sorry.

My husband and I talk about it, in fact we did just today as we ate some very fine pizza here. We always recall the pizza in New Haven.

Mr Muse thinks it was Pepe's.

Second best was in Newport, Oregon. Mmmmmmmmmm pizza!

[CTyankee]

17. It's great here. Thanks. I've only had pizza in northern Italy outside the U.S.

It was great but I love New Haven pizza.

I'm not surprised that Oregon has great pizza. A nice blue state of terrific liberals...

[krispos42]

39. Frank Pepe's Neopolitan Pizzaria

Kicks complete and total ass!



They opened a 2nd store in Fairfield on the Fairfield/Bridgeport border... I think it's by that Mercedes-Benz dealership in Fairfield. They made it almost exactly like the original one... pressed-tin ceiling and all. Giant brick oven.


Just as good as the one on Wooster Street, IMO.

[Fuzz]

25. Nice, hardly no one ever mentions Modern when talking about New Haven pizza.

I loved that place.

The clam pie was awesome.

[CTyankee]

55. Modern Pizza is my favorite. Their fresh sliced tomato pie is also awesome.

So simple. In season, with fresh tomato slices, it is heaven on earth.

I used to work on State Street in New Haven and Modern was a block away. You can imagine the aromas wafting down State Street...

[Fuzz]

61. Oh yeah, that was always ordered.

You know that church across the street from Modern? My father's church used to be there. He was a preacher. Assemblies of God.

[CTyankee]

63. Of course. I also remember St. Stan's (I think that's what it was called). There was a

little Polish area there.

When I get a chance I go to Orange Street. You might remember Romeo & Joe's. It's now Romeo and Cesare's where I can find panna da cucina in little packages. Also Nica's Market which has some wonderful pizza as well, just plain old Pizza Margherita but great.

[Fuzz]

65. Yeah, they rented that church until they bought their own in Branford.

Nice old church. I usually skipped out and ate pizza though, being the 16 year old atheist already.

Then there was Humphry's for wings, loved that place. The green for the jazz fests in summer. We would stop at the Owl shop for a good cigar first and bring a picnic. Drink 1/2 yard after. The Grotto for concerts. Claire's for cakes.

[Catshrink]

71. Sally's is awesome!

Many fond memories of Sally's pizza and Louis Lunch from my distant and maybe not so bright college years.

[monmouth]

6. If you ever go to Jersey/Monmouth County, look for a Federici's in

the area. I go to the one right in the heart of Freehold, the best ever. My grown sons get together during the summer, leave the shore and travel 30 minutes to go to Freehold, order their danged pizza (sausage and peppers) and then call me in Florida from their table to tell me what they just ordered. Ask me if I can smell it. Greatest pizza I ever tasted.

[JerseygirlCT]

57. Federici's is pretty good. But really, I think you get spoiled

in that area, anyway. Lots of good pizza. Why is it so hard to make it right in other places?

[Tangerine LaBamba]

7. Uhhh ............

Deep dish pizza is nothing but pizza pot pie, and I never understood why anyone liked it.

Give me an original thin crust any time.

[rug]

9. St. Louis? Good grief, Jerry's is just down the block.

http://local.yahoo.com/info-12362037-jerry-s-subs-pizza-washington?csz=1600+Pennsylvania+Ave+Nw%2C+Washington%2C+DC+20006

[Trajan]

10. Chicago Deep Dish ?

My NYC-born disposition sours at the mere thought ....

Pizza joy cannot be found in a deep dish, but a hand tossed, hand rolled FRESH NY style pizza at many fine establishments all over the country ....

My favorites ? ... Marri's Pizza in Long Beach CA and Italian Pizza Rosa in North Anaheim CA ...

[tridim]

14. I wish I could have found fresh NY style pizza in NYC, but I never did

It was always old, and greasy as hell. Nasty stuff.

I like almost all pizza styles EXCEPT NY style thin crust.

Anyone ever been to Da Bronx in Kansas City? Now that was good pizza!

[GReedDiamond]

18. Another good thin crust joint...

...in the SoCal/Los Angeles area: Casa Bianca in Eagle Rock (that's right next to Pasadena). They've been doing it right since 1956.

There are always many people waiting to get a table, so if you go, expect that. I don't think they take reservations or personal checks.

[Ian David]

11. Rudy 9iu11ani was ordering Jewish deli food delived from Boston to New York.

That was a HUGE slap in the face to his home city of New York.

[Fovea]

12. St. Louis Stylee

Cracker thin crust with provel cheese and bacon.

That's St. Louis.

Served by the old Talenyas across from Wash U.

[NashVegas]

31. That's Not Pizza, Either

That's a cracker with warm toppings.

[hileeopnyn8d]

40. provel cheese

*shudder*

I don't think Pi uses provel.

[Fovea]

44. That's how we philistines out in St. Charles made it.

N/T

[JerseygirlCT]

58. That's something, but not pizza! nt

[Heidi]

62. What you're describing is really (Alsatian) tarte tlambée.

I love it, too, but I think its origin is French. :hi:

[CreekDog]

13. Is Poo Pooed pizza a Hawaiian thing?

:shrug:

[tridim]

16. I could really go for some pineapple and Canadian bacon pizza right now.

[Joe the Revelator]

15. St. Louis style pizza in complete crap

Shame on you, Barack Obama.

[GoCubsGo]

26. Don't be too hard on the President

I saw another article that said the pizza guy just happens to be in town visiting his girlfriend, and he offered to come make dinner.

[hileeopnyn8d]

41. I agree with you

about St. Louis style pizza, but that isn't the kind of pizza this place serves.

[fishwax]

42. the pizza in question, though, isn't st. louis style pizza

It's from Pi in St. Louis, which specializes in deep dish cornmeal crust: http://www.restaurantpi.com/index2.html

:)

[Joe the Revelator]

46. ah, ok, thats better, i thought he liked that provel covered abomination

[fishwax]

49. yeah, that would be bad indeed

:scared:

[stray cat]

47. Definitely not St Louis style then - but it sounds great - deep dish or thin order by the Prez?

[fishwax]

50. not sure -- the article I saw only had the name of the restaurant

so I looked it up--looks good :9

[Fleshdancer]

19. as a pizza fanatic, I don't understand all the fighting

I love it all. Thick crust, thin crust, traditional toppings, non-traditional toppings...it's all good. :9

If I'm going to judge a pizza, it'll be on the quality of the sauce.

[DebbieCDC]

20. Obviously he never had DiCarlo's pizza in Southeastern Ohio

Best pizza ever -- the sauce to die for :loveya:

[Cirque du So-What]

33. Dammit, Debbie!

You're actually going to make me get in my car and schlep 50 miles to St. Clairsville for a DiCarlo's pizza? Oh, all right, if you insist...

[Mike 03]

21. This week there was a fight about Pappa John's on the Howard Stern Show.

I love almost all pizza, but almost never get to eat it.

But so many people have told me that Pappa Johns is great. Unfortunately, having moved away from Los Angeles and into the boondocks, there's no PJ near here. In fact, we have only Pizza Hut and Domino's.

I hate this thread. It's making me salivate.

[Trajan]

24. Papa John's is hardly different than Pizza Hut ....

Domino's occupies an especially low place in the pizza universe: I cannot dip that low ....

In my experience; IF the pizza place has any of these things:

1) Is an independently owned Italian restaurant

2) Is painted the colors of the Italian flag

3) Has a picture of the pope on the wall

4) Has a picture of the only Roman Catholic President JFK on the wall ...

THEN you are bound to enjoy delicious fresh pizza ....

I could have added Graziano's in Beaverton OR and NY NY Pizza in Portland OR as yet more great pizza restaurants .... Apizza Scholls is considered among the best in Oregon, but it's so hard to get a seat, I have yet to experience them ....

If I am hungry, I will eat nearly any pizza .... but if we are looking for GOOD pizza, that is a different question ...

[Cirque du So-What]

29. 30 years after leaving the Pacific Northwest

I still crave linguiça (a Portuguese sausage) on a Pietro's pizza.

I also remember an unusual chain called Grizzly Bear Pizza. The 'default' crust contained corn meal; dough prepared with only wheat flour was a special order.

[Mike 03]

38. Point taken, and appreciated.

I'm NO expert on pizza.

I was just curious about the praise for Pappa John's.

Thanks.

[eyesroll]

54. Best pizza in Milwaukee is made by an Italian-trained Ukranian pizzaiolo.

www.transfermke.com

It's independently owned but not strictly "Italian," and has local artwork on the walls.

[Cirque du So-What]

27. It's rare that I encounter a pizza that I dislike outright

and St. Louis-style pizza is no exception. The 'Provel' cheese blend (provolone, Swiss & white cheddar) gives the pizza a tangy, 'sour-ish' edge, but it's countered by the sweet sauce.

It may not be to everyone's liking, but I refuse to become a 'pizza snob,' and I'll pretty much eat whatever's set in front of me.

[tritsofme]

30. Just by coincidence we ordered Lou Malnati's deep dish tonight.

You're breaking my heart back here in Chicago, Mr. President.

[Historic NY]

32. He must have forgot 1-800-Lou-Togo

http://www.loumalnatis.com/

[cali]

34. this is my favorite pizza:

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Our emphasis is on quality and integrity. By focusing on a simple menu, we have the ability to perfect the artisanal process to create the best pizza imaginable. We have created an experience that has a broad appeal to families, traditional pizza lovers, and critical epicureans at an affordable price.

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http://www.americanflatbread.com/restaurants/

[ddeclue]

37. They don't have a Papa Johns in Washington D.C.?

:shrug:

Why do they have to order pizza from St. Louis OR Chicago?

:shrug:

[Bonobo]

43. I am NY born and moved to Chicago at 14. First job was for "Pizza King of Chicago".

So let me answer the controversial question.

NY style is best, but in a sense it is not a comparison because Deep Dish "Pizza" isn't really pizza.

Still, Chicago pizza is rather, well, gross when considering how much cheese and dough is actually inside there. It is why all the customers there are so heavy. It is a very unhealthy proportion of carbos and cheese.

Having said that, a deep dish Spinach can be a great thing.

But NY Pizza, yum, yum, yummy! Nothing like a slice of a good "pie"!

[JerseygirlCT]

60. Agreed. It's something else, and sometimes really good. But pizza

it's not.

NY/NJ... real pizza. (And yes, I live in CT now, and no, that New Haven stuff doesn't make the grade, IMO).

[ddeclue]

45. Have just ordered an extra large with pepperoni, onions, ground beef and extra cheese from Papa John

:think:

This thread got me hungry for a Papa John's Pizza...

:bounce:

[Indy Lurker]

48. to learn more than you would ever want to know about pizza

visit pizzamaking.com

[Renew Deal]

51. There is only one pizza and it comes from NY.

The rest is bullshit imitation pizza (at best).

[JerseygirlCT]

59. Or NJ

I suspect it's in similar ingredients.

But outside that area, it's never as good.

[alarimer]

64. How much does this cost?

Is there no pizza in Washington?

I hate it when they do stuff like this. I hope the taxpayers aren't paying for it.

[ProgressIn2008]

74. Agreed, very Marie Antoinette. Bizarre how people buy into this shit. nt

[rucky]

66. Passover Pizza Pie Packed w/ Pepperoni? Pshaw!

[old mark]

67. Please! nt

[rucky]

68. Provoking poutrage? Pity.

Pass the Popcorn.

[old mark]

69. Pretty perceptive! nt

[saltpoint]

70. If kinds of pizza is the biggest complaint someone has, then everything

else must be smooth sailing.

Or perhaps I'm underestimating the grievous insult the president has just paid to Chicago-area pizza makers.

Should a Pizza Czar by appointed to mitigate the hurt feelings?

[Beacool]

73. I don't give a darn about his pizza preference,

but I would like to know who is paying for the pizza guy to be brought back and forth to DC for a pizza party.

:o

[lies and propaganda]

75. barf..... Provel cheese is rancid

I worked at a restaurant in Scottsdale Az that was all owned and operated by a group of Missiouri guys who flew their pizza and fried raviolis in from MO. The ravilolis are to die for.. butt he pizza.. oh god. They have their own cheese in MO i have seen nowhere else called Provel. It looks like white Velveeta, tastes the same.

I think we should start the impeachment procedures asap!