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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 11:32 PM
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What's the diff between a pod cast & streaming the radio over the net?
O lee[ hearing Mike Malloy talk about buying the pod cast of his show to help keep him on the radio. I always stream his show live, and would be willing to pay the small amount he wants for the pod cast, but I don't understand how it would differ from what I have now.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 11:34 PM
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1. You download the podcast onto your Ipod or other mp3 player.
Live streaming you just listen to as it happens, on the net.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 11:37 PM
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3. So if I don't have an MP3 or ipod, it doesn't matter? I want to help
Mike & Kathy, but it sounds stupid for me to pay for something I can't use.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 11:40 PM
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6. As far as I know. I think i-phones, and some of the other phones
can use podcasts, too.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 11:42 PM
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7. The podcast is a computer file
Once you download it, you have it forever. Including days or hours where you'd normally miss some of the show.

I keep podcasts on my hard drive... I have Thom Hartmann, Rachel Maddow, the free Stephanie Miller segments, Bill Maher, Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me, Car Talk, Ring of Fire, and Keith Olbermann going back for about a year now.

I put them on my iPod and bring them to work or on long car rides. I can also play them on my computer through the speakers whenever I want to.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 11:46 PM
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9. I just IPodded my first podcasts tonight, and will listen in bed, instead of
a book have on CD.

any good sites that list available free podcast sites?

how about online books that one can IPOD?

thx
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 11:59 PM
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11. iTunes has a bunch of them. Look for the free ones.
The ones I listed above are all free.

As to books-on-tape for free, well, you'll have to do filesharing. Which is moderately illegal, of course.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-11-09 06:44 AM
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22. I Think You're Going to Start Seeing Free Podcasts Dry Up
A lot of people who went into writing/photography/music and other media fields for a living, for relatively small salaries, have careers to protect. Meanwhile, bloggers and other freebie content providers who all have well-paying day jobs are starting to wake up and realize Google ads ain't going to cut it.

As more and more career writers realize how much more work they're doing for less money, you're going to start seeing them change their tune on free downloads.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-11-09 12:28 AM
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17. Amy Goodman
Democracy Now has free podcasts.
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zeos3 Donating Member (912 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-11-09 01:15 AM
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19. Along with the ones mentioned in post #7
and Democracy Now, check out Blast the Right on iTunes. Does the Young Turks have a pocast available?

Also check out PodcastAlley.com
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 11:36 PM
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2. Streaming=live, podcast=previously recorded
And if you always stream live, why not just hit the "record" button on your player? Then you have both.
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 11:39 PM
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5. And send him the money anyway...
you don't HAVE to download the podcasts... but he is on his own now.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-11-09 12:11 AM
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14. I didn't mean to take anything away from Mike
If I subscribed, I'd definitely get the podcasts.

High sample rate streaming is not for us dial-up people and a podcast takes hours to download.

When I'm finally able to get high-speed internet, I'll subscribe.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 11:49 PM
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10. So, "streaming" is configured for best-quality realtime interpolation, but "podcasting" blurts...
...files optomized for maximum download speed,
destined for decompression & viewing on a 'device to be named later'?

Is that what you're saying? I've always wondered about the difference
myself, and what you said makes sense to me...but I'm so out of touch
with the current geek lingo that I sometimes misunderstand the simplest things.
The last time I actually WROTE a program was 1985.

It's no sin to get old, it's just damned inconvenient.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-11-09 12:02 AM
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12. Actually podcasts usually have MUCH better sound quality
Streaming audio has a lot more 'compression processing' to make it small and fast enough to play live.

And sometimes, podcasts are in stereo, when streaming isn't.

If you care about quality, get the podcast.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-11-09 12:21 AM
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15. So, bandwidth limitations limit STREAMING to "just good enough" quality levels...
...but podcasts compress FULL quality into their blurts?
That makes a lot of sense to me. I think I just UNDERSTOOD
something new!

Back when I was on an iMac with a cable connection,
the Hartmann Show in realtime kinda *FELT* like listening
to the radio at Grandpa Steele's house when I was a kid...
(except it didn't have "The HYMN of the HOUR" sponsored by
GARY'S Mobile & Modular Home Service...)

But the QUALITY of the stream was similar. Which is to say: LOW.

Thanks so much for taking time to explain these things to me.

I owe you one. :thumbsup:

Richard
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-11-09 12:25 AM
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16. Exactly
No probs. :hi:
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-11-09 12:52 AM
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18. Wow, after all these years, I finally understand something related to computers!
Please never tell me anything about computers again-
just let me savor this moment for a decade or two.

By gum, it's BEEN a while!
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-11-09 12:05 AM
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13. The streaming sound isn't usually anything special either
Remember, they have a lot of listeners at once and they have to pay for the bandwidth.



The bit rate and sampling frequency of a podcast is perfectly acceptable for a talk radio show, IMO. No scratchiness or harshness that I've ever been able to hear.


:shrug:

Thom Hartmann, for example, runs about 22 megs for 46 minutes, about a half-meg per minute, and a 128-kbit stereo 44 MHz-sampling music recording runs about a meg a minute.

Olbermann's show is 10 megs for 43 minutes.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 11:38 PM
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4. You can get a whole library of podcasts on your iPod to re-listen to whenever, wherever.
I listen to stuff at work a lot, when I'm doing something that I don't need to think about.

Streaming, live, or archival files, has to be done at your computer.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 11:42 PM
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8. a podcast is a portable file
streaming radio requires a high speed connection constantly to play.
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ConsAreLiars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-11-09 01:35 AM
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20. The podcasts are recordings you can listen to or share with others at a later time, and
haveall the commercials stripped out. Subscribing also gives you access to some other stuff, like a weekly or so video of Mike reading his uncensored hate mail, and who knows what else might be added.

But the main point in subscribing, for me, is that it helps support his show and keep it going. Of course, if you are just asking "what's in it for me?" and that isn't enough of an answer, I can't help you.


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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-11-09 06:25 AM
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21. I'm sure you know what a pod cast is by now. No commercials and
is sweet too. You can buy a cheap little 1GB MP3 player for less than ten bucks now days. 1GB mp3 player can hold an unbelievable amount of pod casts. For less than 5 dollars on e bay you can buy an FM transmitter. You plug the transmitter into a cigarette lighter and the other end into the mp3 player and you can listen to it through your car radio. Really sweet on long trips or even a short commute to work or to the grocery store!
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