In light of all the recent murders and the anti gun ops where do you stand?

[L0oniX]

Poll question: In light of all the recent murders and the anti gun ops where do you stand?

I am curious as to the pro and con percentages within the DU community.

[Marrah_G]

1. #5

[rucky]

2. Can we keep the comments to a minimum and watch the votes?

I don't want to see this poll moved into the Gungeon.

[Turborama]

7. It does need the occasional kick, though...

:kick:

[L0oniX]

17. Here's kicking you.

[Davis_X_Machina]

3. My biggest concern...

...is that a somewhere a Catholic Palestinian will go on a shooting rampage over no-smoking legislation, and DU will collapse under the load, never to rise again.

[L0oniX]

4. LOL

[baldguy]

5. #5

The #8's are clueless.

[L0oniX]

6. I'll just go ahead and say my choice is #5

[DBoon]

8. Guns are not magic

Guns are not religious icons

Having a firearm at home will not compensate you for the loss of your other constituional rights

Guns are a useful but dangerous implement, and should be treated like any other useful but dangerous implement

Normal and sane people own guns for self protection and other purposes. This ownership should not be unnecessarily impeded

American gun culture is not normal and sane. When guns are treated as the avenger of all injustice, people who are not normal and sane will use them as such,with dire consequences

American gun culture is why our firearms murder rate is higher than other countries that have as many guns as ours (Canada, Finland)

[L0oniX]

10. Guy at the CWP class asked those kinds of questions that get you denied.

He thought it might be ok to shoot his daughters boy friend if he saw the boy friend trying to get into her pants. Scary thought that this guy might go to another CWP class and get passed. He definitely should not be allowed to own a gun.

[jody]

9. Polls work best when answers are mutually exclusive and collectively exhaustive.

Stratified sampling

[quakerboy]

15. seconded. One could easily be 2,4, and 5

And probably throw in at least one more for fun

[otohara]

11. Did Anyone Watch 20/20 Last Night?

http://abcnews.go.com/2020

Heartbreaking statistics our country holds when it comes to death by guns - 30,000 deaths each year.

The first segment was very interesting - showing how people with some training in gun safety, lose all control when faced with a real life possibility of having to defend themselves or others.

Rooting, tooting gun toting American's don't know the first thing about defending themselves unless they take hours and hours of gun safety, training.

Stupid idiot John Stossel was not on this particular show - now i know why, he did this report back in 07 about how "more guns prevent gun violence". http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyoLuTjguJA

Just scanned through the comments on last nights show - of course it's the old "liberal media" meme again. Damn liberal media - how dare they present statistics when it comes to guns in America.

[jody]

16. ROFLMAO "take hours and hours of gun safety, training" would exclude most of the 825,000 sworn LEO

in the U.S.

But of course you knew that, didn't you?

[L0oniX]

19. Odd ...my CWP instructor was a LEO.

[jody]

26. Odd, how many of the over 825k+ LEO do you believe are CWP instructors? n/t

[L0oniX]

30. No clue n/t

[MercutioATC]

12. There is NO SUCH THING as an "automatic assault weapon".

"Assault weapons", by definition, are semiautomatic rifles.

...and fully automatic weapons have been heavily regulated by the federal government since 1934.

[Quantess]

13. The recent spate of shootings are a symptom of illness in American culture.

It takes more than guns alone for shootings and mass murders to happen.

[benEzra]

14. All automatic weapons are ALREADY restricted, so I wasn't sure how to vote.

I'm OK with the existing controls on automatic weapons, but oppose banning NON-automatic civilian rifles with handgrips that stick out (aka "assault weapons"). The latter are the most popular civilian rifles in America and have been for a while.

[ThomWV]

18. STFU is strong language, but it is decided law that individuals have the right to arm themselves

And so it should be in my opinion - but it is not one that is universally shared. So be it, I do not attempt to take away any anti-gun-nut's rights and I certainly can not understand why they wish to take away mine.

[mvd]

20. I voted..

"I am fine with guns as long as there is strict licensing, registration and manditory training." Also would like some kind of assault weapons ban brought back.

I don't own a gun and don't plan to, but banning guns wouldn't work in the U.S. The gun culture is too deep. I'm not sure I'd trust law enforcement and the military to own all the legal guns. And there would be a large, criminal illegal market.

[BigBluenoser]

21. There is no good choice in your menu...

#5 is unacceptable to me, and #8 is clearly too far from #5.

No registration please. I have no interest in aiding some future confiscator in the theft of my personal property.

Expand background checks if you want, make them more intensive, whatever. Investigate me all you want. But I'd really rather not have a list of my possessions floating around. Especially how the registration/inventory of gun owners in Canada was used as a shopping list for burglars.

Mandatory training, this is nothing more than an attempt to keep guns out of the hands of the "I bought a gun for self defence" crowd than anything. Any shooting enthusiast could walk through a LEO qualification range of fire blindfolded and throwing bananas. If the gun grabbers want people to get training, it had better be free. Y'know since RKBA is a right. Hey, maybe we could do it in High School. That way everyone would get it!

[BigBluenoser]

22. Mandatory Req. Trainging is okay. Do it in High School and make everyone do it.

That way it is available and affordable (free) for all. In fact, do it in 10th grade, that way we catch the drop outs before they drop out!

I just wanted to stick that out there since it is buried in my post above, and I know I don't read all the body text of other posts :)

[-..__...]

23. #8, but to be more specific...

registration, licensing, bans on categories of firearms, waiting periods, limits on purchases, limiting magazine capacities and closing the "gunshow loophole" are unacceptable.

Try and pass any of the above legislation, and I can only promise you that myself (and millions of others), will work day and night, spare no expense and give %110 effort into defeating any such proposed nonsense.

[depakid]

25. The above is exactly what's needed- and has worked in other nations

Only irrational and obsessive people (or organizations) find responsible regulation objectionable.

Indeed, when I read posts like these, the first things that come to mind are questions about the posters' mental health.

[baldguy]

29. And so we have the NRA

and the GOP exploits it to the hilt.

2nd Amendment Uber Alles!

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

32. What about the Greek NRA you were complaining about earlier?

[DevonRex]

24. #5. And in order to own an NFA weapon, you have to apply, be approved, and pay a tax.

Edited to explain NFA. That's the National Firearms Act. It makes it illegal for anyone to own a machine gun or sawed off shotgun (for example) unless you've gone through the application process, been approved and have paid the NFA tax.

It is NOT easy to get this transaction approved.

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

27. Kick

[L0oniX]

31. ReKick n/t

[L0oniX]

28. This poll has reassured me that I am not alone here in the DU community.

All these latest ops about the crazy shootings and anti-gun rants seemed to be one sided, unfair and unbalanced. Most of them seem to be knee jerk responses to these latest shootings. I found a few sites that list cases where self defense gun owners actually used their guns for defense and saved lives and property. I will admit that owning a gun does increase the chance of accidents and suicides. Even the police get shot and killed even though they have guns. I will still keep my guns and stay practiced and ready to defend my wife and myself. I am relieved to know now that DU is not one sided on the gun ownership issue.