are we planning Iran's demise?

[luckyleftyme2]

Are we about to let Iran hang itself? Since they show such a public display of ignoring nuclear enrichment warnings from the U.S.A. and other nations are they fool hardy enough to think we will not act swiftly and decisively if we think (we actually know) they endanger the area!
How can they be so foolish; do they forget the attacks we have sanctioned in the past? I believe
in the past 30 years we have made strikes in several outlaw nations. And this has prevented all out war.
I fear they are playing a dangerous game and our choices are being narrowed daily. Take a poll Iran!YOU WILL FIND THE MAJORITY OF AMERICANS WILL VOTE TO STOP YOU DEAD IN YOUR TRACKS!
It's your call;in a national game of bluff poker death is often the prize!

[vadawg]

1. quick answer, probuably, wouldnt be surprised

long answer, we would be foolish to not have plans to whack iran, and theres probuably even a war plan somewhere that deals with the invasion of penguin island.

[ThomWV]

2. If Cuba can be used as an example they don't have much to fear

[leftchick]

3. are you aware

that Israel has several hundred nuclear weapons? Talk about a 'rogue nation'. :eyes:

[vadawg]

4. honestly, as they have had them for years and dont seem to have used them, then im not to worried

Iran on the other hand reminds me of my mental cousin, not to sure i would sleep happy knowing that the crazy mullahs might wake up one day and decide todays the day to kill satan.

[MikeNearMcChord]

8. I don't think the Mullahs are jonesing for a fight with Israel

They know what Israel is capable of doing. Like it or not Iran will get their nuclear program either with Russian help or some other way, and Israel may have to deal with the fact they will no longer the the kids on the block with the big guns. Isn't other Arab nations thinking of developing a nuclear program too?

[leftchick]

9. crazy mullahs?

kinda like crazy Netanyahu? He is bat shit crazy. I see you have been totally programed by your tv.

[vadawg]

10. lol yeah like you need a TV to know that the mullahs are radio rental

apart from the SPL, doctor who, and battlestar galactica i dont watch much TV, so there :P

[leftchick]

12. yes you sound very well informed

if you were you would be aware of the IAEA report and in addition our own NIE indicating the "Iran threat" is greatly exaggerated and blatantly false.

[vadawg]

13. and going with what i know of the world and people, i still say the mullahs are mental

and i wouldnt trust them with a baseball bat behind me if i was having a dump in the woods. Would you, especially if you were israeli. I dont think so.

[leftchick]

14. you also have just a

lovely way with words. Thank god for the ignore option.

[vadawg]

15. obviously you use the ignorance option a lot then.

[leftchick]

18. one is a noun

the other a verb. Your ignorance is fucking blatant.

Thesaurus: ignorance
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1. The condition of being ignorant; lack of knowledge or learning: benightedness, illiteracy, illiterateness, nescience. See knowledge/ignorance.
2. The condition of being uninformed or unaware: innocence, nescience, obliviousness, unawareness, unconsciousness, unfamiliarity. See knowledge/ignorance.

[vadawg]

20. sorry i thought you had me on ignore, though im glad to see you know how to search the internet,

well done.

[leftchick]

21. apparently

you do not have that skill. toodles!

[vadawg]

22. deleted due to wierd computer stuff

[vadawg]

23. no need when theres always some obliging netnanny to provide the correct spelling for me

as my old man used to tell me
why buy a dog and do the barking yourself

[cherokeeprogressive]

30. So what is the "Iran threat"? Exaggerated, or blatantly false? It can't be both, can it? n/t

[geckosfeet]

11. Why do you think we support Israel in spite of all the bat-shit-crazy stuff they do?

They are our first line offense in the middle east, doing the dirty work that we can't be openly involved in.

[Skidmore]

5. Iran is an old civilization society with a strong national identity and

it has weathered invasion after invasion over the centuries with its core culture intact. Even Islam had to adapt to the Persian people, who changed it in very fundamental ways. I highly doubt that Iran will cease to exist because you seem hell bent the idea that our President would start a war of aggression rather than bring the peoples of Iran to the table. Persians invented the game of chess and President Obama knows how to play chess.

[newfie11]

6. who is the only nation to use a nuclear bomb?

What nation stuck their nose in the policies of the middle east many years ago? What nation has CIA or god knows what undercover in many many countries?

And we are threatening Iran??

It's time America stopped cruising the world trying to change it to our specs.

[elocs]

17. Evidently our hypocrisy knows no bounds.

Our philosophy must be "do as I say, and not as I do, or have done".

[vadawg]

19. yeah cause really we should let other countries use nukes so we are not the only ones

im not sure but your post reads to me that we ahould not get bothered if other countries nuke each other as we used nukes, i just hope when the bombs start flying its your house going up first.

[elocs]

24. Oooo, I guess you put me in my place. What a moron. Ignore.

I bet you're making a lot of ignore lists today.

[vadawg]

25. yeah it seems that people are scared of anyone who dosent succumb to the mind control

its weird, but also very revealing.

[The Straight Story]

28. first, we used a nuke in a time of war

second, Iran/ME in general has not had the most stellar past in how they treated other nations.

[leftchick]

32. 'the most stellar past in how they treated other nations.'

you have got to be freakin kidding me! Pot, kettle, black....

http://www.killinghope.org/


If you flip over the rock of American foreign
policy of the past century, this is what crawls out...

invasions ... bombings ... overthrowing
governments ... suppressing movements
for social change ... assassinating
political leaders ... perverting
elections ... manipulating labor unions ...
manufacturing "news" ... death squads ...
torture ... biological warfare ...
depleted uranium ... drug trafficking ...
mercenaries ...

It's not a pretty picture.
It is enough to give imperialism a bad name.

Read the full details in:

Killing Hope: US Military and CIA
Interventions Since World War II.

by William Blum


"Far and away the best book on the topic."
Noam Chomsky

"I enjoyed it immensely."
Gore Vidal

"I bought several more copies to circulate to
friends with the hope of shedding new light
and understanding on their political outlooks."
Oliver Stone

"A very valuable book. The research and organization
are extremely impressive."
A. J. Langguth, author, former New York Times Bureau Chief

"A very useful piece of work, daunting in scope,
important."
Thomas Powers, author, Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist

"Each chapter I read made me more and more angry."
Dr. Helen Caldicott, international leader of
the anti-nuclear and environmental movements

[Fovea]

7. To see how far we will go to stabilize another nation

Check out North Korea.
Check out Pakistan.

Sure, Iran has oil, but it also has Russia looking out for it's interests, as well as members of the EU.

We made several strike into Iraq before we invaded it. But we also isolated it via the powell doctrine and the U.N.

We were not even able to deal with Somalia when we had no other military commitments.
Like our banks that are too big to fail, our scariest weapons are too big to use.

N. Korea called our bluffs no more than two weeks ago. Don't you remember that?
We are in economic collapse. What we are doing fighting a mx front war we don't have to fight?
We are executing Osama bin Laden's game plan.

[luckyleftyme2]

16. My thoughts

We are on record for changing,overthrowing or squashing 14 nations in the last 110 years; this does not take into effect people like GaDaffy who we just fired a warning shot across their bow. I think if you doubled that number you would be closer.
So my conclusion is Iran is on borrowed time! And I second that motion!
Beards and insanity is hardly a defense for exploding objects!
THE CLOCK IS TICKING!
AS FOR NORTH KOREA,PAKISTAN AND WHOEVER THE FORCES ARE ABOUT TO MAKE AN EXAMPLE FOR YOU TO SEE;FIRST YOU NEED POLITICAL WILL. THAT IS BEING ACHIEVED DAILY. THAN YOU NEED REASON. (WE HAVE AMPLE REASON) NOW YOU USE IT WHEN AND ONLY WHEN NO OTHER WAY IS POSSIBLE.
I SAY WE WILL KNOW THE TARGET WITHIN A FEW MONTHS.

[Fovea]

33. Thanks for your opinion.

And thanks for seconding it too.

But one word of advice. When you second your own opinion, the chance of your being
schizophrenic increases dramatically.

Read "World War Three, August 1984" then come back an tell me why your idea is, well, STOOPID.

[MADem]

26. No. nt

[Orwellian_Ghost]

27. Who's "we?"

See how the US actually promoted nuclear for Iran when, GUESS WHAT?, the US puppet was in charge and, GUESS WHAT?, the US companies were to be getting the contracts.

The US aggression and hyperbole has zero to do with Iran getting nuclear energy and/or weapons in Iran and all to do with how US corporations gain access to vast amounts of energy and the decisions on who gets the multi-billion dollar contracts for furthering Iran's nuclear systems.



The vast majority of Iran's crude oil reserves are located in giant onshore fields in the southwestern Khuzestan region near the Iraqi border and the Persian Gulf. Iran has 32 producing oil fields, of which 25 are onshore and 7 offshore. Major onshore fields include the following: Ahwaz-Asmari (700,000 bbl/d); Bangestan (around 245,000 bbl/d current production, with plans to increase to 550,000 bbl/d), Marun (520,000 bbl/d), Gachsaran (560,000 bbl/d), Agha Jari (200,000 bbl/d), Karanj-Parsi (200,000 bbl/d); Rag-e-Safid (180,000 bbl/d); Bibi Hakimeh (130,000 bbl/d), and Pazanan (70,000 bbl/d). Major offshore fields include: Dorood (130,000 bbl/d); Salman (130,000 bbl/d); Abuzar (125,000 bbl/d); Sirri A&E (95,000 bbl/d); and Soroush/Nowruz (60,000 bbl/d).

According to the Oil and Gas Journal (1/1/04), Iran holds 125.8 billion barrels of proven oil reserves, roughly 10% of the world's total, up from 90 billion barrels in 2003. In October 1999, Iran announced that it had made its biggest oil discovery in 30 years, a giant onshore field called Azadegan located in the southwestern province of Khuzestan, a few miles east of the border with Iraq. Reportedly, the Azadegan field contains proven crude oil reserves of 26 billion barrels. In July 2004, Iran's oil minister stated that the country's proven oil reserves had increased again, to 132 billion barrels, following new discoveries in the Kushk and Hosseineih fields in Khuzestan province.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ops/oplan-1002.htm

[vadawg]

29. then is then , now is now, i know i for one dont trust the mental mullahs

to have nukes, i dont like any society that is controlled by so few people to have that much power, as i said i wouldnt trust them behind me not to take me down.

[peacetalksforall]

31. Look in the mirror. We are the terrorists. We decimated the economies and leadership

and massacred untold numbers of foreigners in many countries for decades. Who the heck do you think we are? The good guys?

If enough people in the U.S. and enough in Iran feel the same way about peace, there can be an influence on the leadership - crazy fantatics that they are including the Rabbi's in Israel and outside Israel.

While reading your post I jumped to the conclusion that you were inciting support for the Israel position against Iran. If yes, study the Israeli Rabbi's who influence everything in Israel. They are not all pure of heart.

Cheney and Rove and their teams gave us the Axis of Evil. Don't fall for it. We excel in creating enemies all centered on earth resources.

In 2005 or own NSA or one of the N's under the NSA said that Iran would not be ready for warheads for eight years - a time span that could be shortened if the all the supplies were easily obtainable. That is a complex question and the answer is complex. Who is a partner of those who sell nuclear parts to countries on the blacklist? Our former VP? Who is lying to whom?

For decades peole have said that the worst thing that can happen to the world is the escalation of war in the Middle East. Israel and the U.S. and Britain have been on the same side against all the Arab nations and Iran. Everyone is seeing it. Time to catch up?

It's time to come up with a new adage for the Middle East - Peace Is Possible.

The stakes are too high not to call the bluff of those who hide their motives at the religious-military=corporate-media-think tans levels. I place religious first.

Wake up. Think out and around and through the issue. Think profit and control benefits and who receive them. The war for the world can be stopped. The power for profit and control is gargantuan and we are tiny ticks to flick and decimate for them, including you. The power of peace can win.

[luckyleftyme2]

35. oil has killed almost as many as religion

Glad to see so many voicing their opinions; for the more we talk the more we see our weaknesses. But you see the angry cannot be perceived for their ideas because they hide their message within anger which turns so many off. The solution is to free the world of weapons that can eliminate mankind.
The reason being that some nut case may just do that(eliminate mankind)

what's your take STOOPID?
A LITTLE PAYBACK TO A WACKO!

[cali]

36. what a hackneyed and confused post.

if only it were all so simple. black and white thinking presents no answers- but it seems to be ever with is. And your obsession with "Israeli Rabbi's" is, um, bizarre- to say the least.

The history of the U.S. is checkered. But it's not the sole source of evil on the planet. And the mideast isn't the only hotspot.

Leave the confused black/white rhetoric to george bush and co.

[luckyleftyme2]

37. I find your reply

I find your reply about as foolish and irresponsible as it's author; really I had enough of
"BUSHGATE" and it's horror to last my family for a lifetime!
2 maimed and one dead in my family alone!
so take a hike -your kind only fuel the fire!

[cali]

38. uh, try again.

are your really so clueless? And yes, I'm sorry for your loss, but it has zip all to do with your confused little posts.

[rug]

34. So, how do you feel about the pirates?

[acmavm]

39. This is the third psychotic rambling moranic thread you've started

on the same subject. Are you off your meds or what?

The majority of the American people do NOT want another war. We want out of the two we're already in.