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Edited on Sun Apr-12-09 09:36 AM by originalpckelly
"OMG! Where's the alert button?"
Why is it when you see that you assume:
1. I'm sanity challenged
2. A crank/ignorant
3. High on some pretty good shit
4. Or some combination of the above
But when the physicists literally working on the same thing, based upon observing a single planet in depth, a moon through telescopes/robots/a few guys, other planets/bodies through robots/telescopes and everything else through telescopes say the same thing, you don't think they are total morons/insane/high?
It's obvious that no one would publish a thing on DU even if they had found something, I hate to inform you, it's not the pinnacle of peer review.
It's also plainly obvious to me, that if a theory is only as good as its weakest evidence, then their evidence for such a theory would be pretty fucking weak. Yes, that's right, I really don't think it's possible to find a "theory of everything" after observing only a single planet in depth. Oh and by the way, we're still figuring shit out about Earth, if we don't have Earth down pat, how the fuck can we know about everything? Knowing error, as I understand it, is a vital part of science. If that's true, then they should have a pretty fucking big margin of error (the vast majority of the universe), wouldn't you agree?
I submit to you that these "scientists" are doing nothing more than holding math laced bull sessions or looking for God through science. If you want to be a man of God, join a church and become a priest, not a scientist. Even if there is a God, there is absolutely no evidence for God, it is the pinnacle of unfalsifiable claims.
I pick on scientists, because although many still have inherent credibility, scientists get kicked around more than Dick Nixon, even when they're not full of crap. (Where my chemists at or my real physicists? Stand up and be counted, you guys fucking rock!) Any other topic would have been sent to the dungeon(s)/locked.
I have studied the idea of inherent credibility the last few years, mainly through the perspective of politics. I have come to the conclusion it's a bunch of bullshit to think someone won't lie to you, simply because they speak from a position of authority. My evidence for these claims?
THE WHOLE FUCKING WORLD, FUCKHEAD!
What are you people a bunch of morons? You all must have been the kids who believed that Johnny really did have a magic unicorn as a pet in school. I hate to break it to you, but Johnny was:
1. Sanity challenged
2. A crank/ignorant
3. High on some pretty good shit
4. Or some combination of the above
Just about every part of our lives is touched by the evil of inherent credibility:
1. Economists/business types (aka rich bullshitters): Show me a controlled experiment where people behave like they do in the real world, the economy is the ultimate uncontrolled experiment, and in that case, all economists are doing is studying history. I will not let a person in authority tell me how to interpret history, no one should. Making a lot of money is the ultimate position of authority, and it would seem, the ultimate reason to bullshit someone.
2. Politicians ("elected" bullshitters): Yes, I hate to break it to you, they're all a bunch of fucking lying douchebags.
3. Religulous types ("holy" crappers): Today there will be some teen boys who find out that their going to hell for spanking the monkey, or rather their own monkeys, the priests can spank theirs or have the alter boys do it for them, then it's all good. <---Don't you DARE talk about the reality that some of these men of God got in trouble for diddling kids. This is SUNDAY, after all, if God could give it a rest today, why not you? :spank:
A guy can be gay his whole life, and take better care of the kids than the priests do, but he's going to hell, while the kididdling priest will be going to heaven because he asked for forgiveness. Or lets make this really more absurd, a gay humanitarian v. ax murderer. Ax murderer is going to heaven, because he found God at the last minute while the gay dude is going to hell after a life of good work. (Death sentences tend to do that, maybe we should give everyone a death sentence first, then they should work their way up. It's not like it would take less than a lifetime to run through the appeals. It's a life sentence with the possibility of parole to the great unknown.)
Not all religions are intolerant, and the ones who are tolerant can exempt themselves. You may still be full of crap, but if you don't hurt anyone, then it's none of my business what's going on in your head. If you are a model citizen because the Great Pumpkin tells you to do it, I won't argue against that. Just don't lecture me on the Great Pumpkin? OK? :P
Inherent credibility = believing what someone says without evidence based upon the credibility they have either earned through studying the subjects long and hard or from their position of authority (NO ONE in a position of authority would have any reason to lie to us, you stop implying that!)
1. Degrees are great, but they are meaningless if you only use them to back up your claims instead of using the tools you learned in the process of education to prove your claims. Having a doctorate means precisely dick, as long as you only back up what you say by citing it for credibility. Even intelligent people make mistakes, even when they don't intentionally mislead their peers for some reason. For the most part, it appears science has learned the lessons of not having inherent credibility, except for those theory of everything types.
Citing a degree on a discussion forum for anything more than a pat on the back from people after receiving it is meaningless, prove to us you know what you're talking about. Even if you scanned the degree in, we'd have no idea if you are actually the person on the degree. Show us you know what you're talking about. That's the idea of a discussion forum on the internet, people learn by debating, and sometimes they must fall on their face to learn a lesson. It's the way I finally learned how to lose. (I am that stupid, but I'm not a looser anymore! :P)
2. It's obvious those in positions of authority will lie to people in the jurisdiction of their authority. How else do you think these people managed to raid the Social Security trust funds in the late 90s to fill in for the deficit, while still making it look like there was a surplus? Oh and you know Bush? Yeah, remember that whole Social Security reform? He's part of the reason Social Security is fucked, because after arguing to privatize it (like 401Ks, that really worked well for everyone, right?) because of insolvency, his budgets literally stole billions from that and the government employee pension funds to pay for his deficits.
You see folks, America is done for because of all the bullshit. It's crashing under the weight of its own bullshit. I hate to say it, because I live in this fucked up country. I also hate to say it, because I see people making pleas to inherent credibility (Glenn Beck on a "fair and balanced news network" and that dude dressed up as Thomas Jefferson) and they clearly don't mean well and they highly sanity challenged. If you think those two are the end of this, you're out of your minds. To quote Emperor Palpatine, everything I have foreseen is going according to plan. Not because I have some mystical force, but because although I'm a total moron, I am just smart enough to see shit with common sense (although, I have licked a couple cold metal poles myself, so it's not all common sense for me. I'm still a loser.)
I've been trying to say this for years now, now it's important because the fate of everything rests on America restoring its common sense. Common sense is not believing a charismatic person or their advisers based upon inherent credibility, no matter how nice they seem, if they really are nice they will open shit up. You have the inalienable right to know. If there's just one thing you should hold true without any evidence, it's that in a lack of evidence, you shouldn't hold the statement to be true.
Now, before the fuck up vultures descend to point out some major flaw in my logic, spelling, or grammar, I would like to tell them one last time to go fuck themselves. We all make mistakes, even the fuck up vultures.
*I fucking misspelled headsplodation. I made the shit up, and I still can't spell it right. :rofl: Now that's some funny shit.
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