Is It Really Necessary to Purposely Polarlize People Into Obama Can Do No Wrong / Obama Sucks Camps?

[NashVegas]

There's yet-another GD: P champion trying to force people into clear lines, defining where we stand on President Obama, trying to divide DUers and goad them into insulting and slamming each other based on whether or not they agree with some outrageously slanted piece of writing, one that doesn't even come from the OP's own intellect.

I can't call out the poster and don't want to give them more attention than they deserve, anyway. Anyone who's been around long enough knows what I'm talking about.

Please don't fall for this crap. It divides our voices - do we want single payer? Sure. Does wanting single payer mean we hate Obama? FUCK NO! Do we want to see more bailouts? No. Does that mean we hate Obama? FUCK NO! - and diminishes our ability to be united about what policies are important to us - and keeps us too busy fighting against each other to have any say in the decisions made by our public servants.

Please don't fall for the trap.

[Bolo Boffin]

1. Thank you - k&r

This community can be a great place to celebrate the many victories and organize for even more. The No Wrong/Sux false dichotomy is something we can't afford.

[NashVegas]

3. 2001 - 2008

We were kept too busy hating Bush to be effective. 2004? If Kerry and the DC crowd screwed us by making the campaign about "anyone but Bush."

[patrice]

2. False dichotomies are, guess what . . . FALSE. Reality is NOT like that and the

multidimensional Truth is, by definition, inevitable, because it IS the Truth.

This is why, imho, we should concentrate on ISSUES, not political personalities.

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

4. Manichaeism:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manichaeism

Surprisingly, it applies here.

[Political Heretic]

10. Manateeism ?

Might also apply here....

[Fovea]

14. It's not that cute.

Or that smart.

[Fovea]

13. So right you are.

n/t

[ZombieHorde]

25. What made you point out that particular religion? nt

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

35. Why did I choose that?

Manaechism is a "black/white" religious view. It allows for no shades of gray. It something is either good or it is evil. It is the eyes of simplistic thinking.

And simplistic thinking, thinking that evinces little or no reason or insight, seems to be epidemic these days. On both sides of the political equation.

Try as we might to not believe it, life is nuanced.

[ZombieHorde]

36. Are not most monotheistic religions black and white? nt

a

[blondeatlast]

5. No and thank you for saying so. Holy koala bear--look at the Obamas' pet thread.

DU is a big ol' bunch of bizzyboddeez today. I kkinda wish I'd gone to Easter services! :hide:

[NashVegas]

7. I Don't Mind the Pet Thread

But that's probably because I haven't opened it. I don't care about the damn dog. I'm sure he's going to a great home and the girls will love it to death.

[Liberal Veteran]

6. At rare times, I think it is.

There are certain people of otherwise liberal credentials that make it a point to chastise President Obama consistently and are strangely silent when he does something they can't disagree with.

Mind you, I think they are a tiny minority of people. But they do exist and in much smaller numbers than the volume of their posts would have you believe.

[BlooInBloo]

11. Yup.

[Political Heretic]

8. I personally am in the Obama can do no sucks camp

:)

Hey always looking for that third way....

[drm604]

9. It's necessary to the right-wing agenda.

False dichotomies are a standard part of their toolbox.

[blondeatlast]

20. there is no doubt an element of that at play in the media as well as the blogs.

The RW is far better at exploiting that technique than the LW is, too.

[drm604]

21. Neither the RW nor the LW should be exploiting that technique.

Nobody should be. It's intellectually dishonest. It dumbs down conversation and ultimately we all suffer because of it.

[blondeatlast]

22. Good point. Absolutely agree. nt

[NashVegas]

24. As That Former Naderite Michael Moore Would Say

The LW and RW are both wings of the capitalist party. Keeping us divided is what their jobs are all about.

[Fovea]

12. Yes, without doing that,

the wide stance party may cease to exist in 2010.

[nashville_brook]

15. ah, sweet, sweet rationality. this post deserves to go to the top of Greatest Page -- KnR bigtime.

[blondeatlast]

16. No--and those who do this lose credibility in my eyes. I know which frequent posters always fall to

or the other; I find it more instructive as well as entertaining to read the complexities and doubts of a position.

[ismnotwasm]

17. Hell no n/t

[omega minimo]

18. only in a Black and White (mind) world

[Uzybone]

19. Easy to pretend that there are no posters in the "obama sucks" camp

[NashVegas]

23. Didn't Say They Aren't There

Or how fascinating it is that so many of them spent 7 months screaming (so to speak) epithets about HC last year. The Obama boosters club loved these kids so much a year ago they bought them all stars. They were attention-demanding trolls then, and they still are now. Sucks when it's your guy they're after, huh?

[geek tragedy]

29. Well, some of them are PUMAs

who never got over the primary.

But, yes, a lot of them hate Democrats who commit the crime of winning.

[leftstreet]

26. K&R

[JohnnyLib2]

27. K & R

[eleny]

28. I'm not falling for the "divide and conquer" tactic, either

K&R :thumbsup:

[Iggo]

30. Yes. Your next question is: Necessary to whom?

[NashVegas]

32. 00

clever monkey

[Captain Hilts]

31. No. nt

[Gold Metal Flake]

33. I call them the polar 'roids.

Well, I just started to call them that.

[LynnTheDem]

34. Uh huh. It's like you either cheerlead the deaths of bad guys, or

you love bad guys.

You either cheerlead invading an innocent nation, or you're a Saddam-lover.

You either love Obama blindly, or you hate Obama blindly.

Coz we're different than the other side.

:sarcasm:


I guess the good part is, we do polarize, unlike the rightwingnuts who march in lockstep. More common sense middle-ground would be highly welcome to this progressive liberal, though.

[mmonk]

37. For some, it is all or none. Someone will always exploit that.