Kudos to Obama and the new shelter dog.

[bvar22]

Admittedly, I am an Issues guy, and don't waste time on the personality threads. I am embarrasingly uninformed about Obama's childrens schools, or Michele's wardrobe, or most anything to do with what I consider their personal lives. Since I am a frequent critic of most of Obama's policies, I felt the need to congratulate him on something he has done right.

As a supporter of no kill shelters, and an owner of several rescue pets, I was naturally delighted when President Obama announced that they were going to get a rescue dog. It indicated to me that his heart is in the right place, and that he is a man of the people unconcerned with pedigrees and bloodlines. When it was announced yesterday that he had finally gotten their dog, I wanted to post a personal Thank You for taking a leadership role in supporting the Animal Rescue efforts that so many of us are involved in. I'm sure that by setting a such public example, many Americans will follow suit.

[The Straight Story]

1. If people only do things because they see the president doing it

Then they have issues.

[northernlights]

84. show me a person without issues

and I'll show you a corpse. Seriously. I'm 55 now and I don't think I've ever met anyone, anywhere, without issues. I don't care how perfect they may appear to be, 5 minutes and I can unearth their issues. I have this way of just bringing people's issues right to the fore.

Of course people do things because the Prez does it. Just like every time hollywood comes out with a feel good kid's movie about one breed of dog or another, every parent goes out and gets their kids that kind of dog, regardless of how suitable the breed is to kids, or how suitable they are to become furparents.

And so the puppy mills thrive. Most of the concern over the Obama's choice is that they didn't rescue a labradoodle or goldendoodle from a shelter.

But some of the concern is that now PWD could be the next target of the puppy mills. Especially considering how lethally cute PWD puppies are. (I mean, I actually was *grateful* that Marley turned out to have a tragic ending that would scare non-dog people away from getting dogs. As many tears as that movie caused to be shed, that's how many yellow labs won't be badly bred and then dumped).

[LisaL]

2. I don't know if you are kidding or what?

Obama didn't get a dog from a rescue.

[stillcool]

7. no..it was a previously owned dog...

how controversial is that?

[bvar22]

14. You mean the Obama's did NOT get a shelter dog?

After all the publicity and posturing for the cameras about how they were going to get a shelter dog Obama turned around and got a Pedigree Rich People's Dog?

The hell you say.

[Beaverhausen]

That's bullshit. Obama said they would *try* to get a shelter dog

but with Malia's allergies, they had to choose from certain breeds.

edit- here is what he said:

We have two criteria that have to be reconciled," he said. "One is that Malia is allergic, so it has to be hypoallergenic. There are a number of breeds that are hypoallergenic.

"On the other hand, our preference would be to get a shelter dog, but, obviously, a lot of shelter dogs are mutts like me. So whether we're going to be able to balance those two things I think is a pressing issue on the Obama household," he said.

[peace13]

19. Please don't bring the facts to this discussion.

Always has to be someone in the crowd who was actually paying attention!

[LisaL]

25. The facts are that there are lots of dogs in shelters.

They are not likely to be Portuguese water dog puppies, but some sort of poodle mix was certainly something Obama could have found if the shelter dog was something he truly wanted.

[peace13]

67. Lisa, go back and listen to what the man said.

He did not promise to get a rescue dog. Regardless of what you think, people have the right to choose the kind of animal they want and where they want to get it.

[LisaL]

73. He said they'd prefer to get one from a shelter.

Which in my view could have been accomplished if that was something he truly wanted.

[LisaL]

24. Yea well if he truly wanted one from a shelter I am pretty sure

he could have found something.

[Beaverhausen]

41. are you kidding?

The president has a few more important issues to concern himself with, I daresay. Too bad he didn't have the time to scour every shelter to find the dog that meets your criteria.

[LisaL]

44. Right. Of course there is no way somebody could have done it

for him. The poor president is all alone and has to do everything himself.
:eyes:

[AndrewP]

94. LOL. I know, no shit!

Like he has to sit up until 2 AM looking at Petfinder.com himself.

[roody]

106. You can do it at petfinder.com.

[MineralMan]

43. Oh, for pete's sake! Go adopt a dog or something.

Get over your pouting over this. The President of The United States cannot go visiting shelters until he finds a hypoallergenic dog for his children to pet. He has other things to do, you see. Besides, this dog was a gift from a good friend and mentor.

Go at once to your nearest shelter and adopt a doggie in place of the Obamas' dog. Then you'll feel better. Or, put the lime in the cocoanut.

[LisaL]

46. Unfortunately I am all maxed out on animals.

I got too many as it is.

[MineralMan]

48. Then go pet one of them or something and leave the President

and his family alone. It's none of your business. It has nothing to do with politics. It has nothing to do with your opinion. It has only to do with the choice of a pet for his children. Why are you concerned about it?

[LisaL]

50. Who are you to tell me what I should be concerned about?

No, seriously.

[MineralMan]

56. I'm MineralMan, a DU poster, that's who.

You're expressing your opinion here in public, and so am I. Do you really see the First Puppy as a serious issue? Please explain why.

[LisaL]

63. Getting a shelter dog was a little thing Obama could have done

to make the public happy. It wasn't something outrageous or out there. That is all.

[MineralMan]

68. What percentage of the public do you suppose gives a crap

what kind of dog he chose? Do you truly think this is a matter worth any of your time? If so, perhaps you should apply for the position of pet-selector for the Obama administration. I can't even believe I'm seeing this discussion on DU.

Did you hear they rescued the Captain from the pirates? Do you have an opinion on whether the Navy did that the right way?

[LisaL]

69. Why are you posting and posting on this thread if you think

this matter is not worthy of discussion?

[MineralMan]

75. Because I'm waiting for a phone call and have absolutely

nothing better to do. I'm goofing off on Easter Sunday. Now, I could have taken a nap, but then the phone would ring and I hate when that happens. So, here I am on DU, posting in an idiotic thread about how President Obama is bad because he didn't get his kids a dog from a shelter...a NO KILL shelter, of course. And one approved of by several animal welfare organiztions, of course.

Well, instead, he accepted a specific breed that had been under consideration as a gift from his mentor, Senator Kennedy.

Thanks for asking.

[ecstatic]

62. LOL!!!! "go pet one of them or something"

:rofl:

[northernlights]

85. um, once the president and 1st lady repeatedly told the press they wanted a shelter dog

they made it our business.

If they weren't serious, they should have kept their mouths shut.

They made it an issue and then did the wrong thing.

[Huskerchub]

91. Do you people seriously not think...

that if there was a PWD in ANY shelter in the US, that the very first thing that shelter would do is get on the fucking phone to the
White House SHOUTING "HEY LOOK, PRESIDENT OBAMA!!!! WE HAVE A PWD IN OUR SHELTER FOR YOUR FAMILY!!!!" Face it, it's not going to happen. Hell for that matter, why wasn't the PWD Club of America looking for a rescue dog for the First Family? This is not a breed that shows up in shelters very often, in fact not a breed that has a huge US population. They WANTED a shelter dog and they WANTED a PWD. If one cannot be found, you get the next best thing. Damn, I don't understand why people don't get it.

Maybe you can understand this analogy. I want to pay $500 for a NEW 6 Person hot tub. But I'm constantly being told by the people who sell them that they are more like $5000. What am I going to do, I've publicly stated that I want a 6 person tub and want to pay $500 for it, should I wait around hoping that someone just happens to give me a $4500 price break or do I cough up the $5000 or look at something smaller? I can't get something smaller because I have 6 people in my family. So it seems that you would tell me to "wait for a sale" because that's what I said that I wanted. :banghead: I think I maybe answered my own question in the subject of my post.

[LisaL]

100. Well if they wanted a shelter dog and it had to be a PWD,

then it was not going to happen. What is there not to get? If he truly wanted a shelter dog, then they could have picked up some other more common breed. Labradoodle which supposedly was a choice could have been found in a shelter.

[AndrewP]

95. Bingo! If the rescue was never a serious option, then just shut the fuck up and dont mention it

[LisaL]

101. Exactly.

When it was revealed they wanted a PWD from a shelter, I said, good luck with that. I fail to see how they could have been serious about wanting a shelter dog if it was supposed to be a rare breed and a puppy.

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

102. It just shows he's dishonest and doesn't have much compassion.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

59. Go to petfinders.com and you will find thousands of young full bred

"hypo-allergenic" dogs available through shelters and rescue organizations, except for of course a rare breed like the Portuguese Water Dog. A couple of months ago there were only 2 mixed breed ones available.

Here is a partial list of "hypo-allergenic" breeds from Wikipedia. I say partial, because they left out Irish Terriers, which I had.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypoallergenic_dog_breeds

Several of these dogs are large (he didn't want a "girlie" dog)

I would just like to add that the Obamas had the right to get any dog they wanted to but it was misleading to say that they were considering a shelter dog. They didn't have to say anything.

I am also amazed at how many posters defending the decision by saying that they couldn't get a suitable dog from a shelter or rescue organization when there are loads of them (especially with our economy) out there waiting for a good home.

[northernlights]

83. Obama also said their top choice was a golden doodle, which later was

revised to labradoodle. Or Portuguese Water Dog.

There are many, many hypoallergenic golden doodles and labradoodle puppies in shelters right now. They became a "fad" and as such were overbred by puppy mills and there are plenty of them in desperate need of a home.

So the pretense that they couldn't have found a suitable hypoallergenic puppy in a shelter is simply not true, and never was.

The bottom line is that their good friend, Ted Kennedy, has Portuguese Water Dogs and wanted to give them one.

Personally, I think the better solution would have been to get two dogs. Or maybe 3 or 4. One for each. So they could have accepted the gift, and saved a few lives at the same time.

[KittyWampus]

58. This post by you pretty much proves my suspicion as to your intent with this entire thread

You are obvious.

[northernlights]

87. it took you until post #14 to figure it out?

I thought the OP was pretty obvious. :shrug:

[OregonBlue]

104. The dog was a gift from Senator Kennedy. I don't assume he would refuse a gift from a dying friend.

[merh]

105. Find me a Portie in a shelter and I will make sure it is adopted.

[Tx4obama]

57. Yes he did...

Bo was a dog without a home. The previous owner returned him to the kennel.
The Obamas have done a good thing by adopting Bo and since Malia has allergies it would have been hard for the Obamas to have found a dog at the local pound.

Obama 2012

[LisaL]

71. Previous owner returned him to the breeder.

The dog wasn't going end up on the street if that is what you are trying to imply.

[flvegan]

3. So you support limited-intake shelters but not open-intake shelters?

My mind has always been boggled by that attitude.

[Myrina]

4. but Bo isn't a shelter dog, he was a gitft from Teddy Kennedy ...

... who apparently is a big fan of Portugese Water Dogs & probably has a direct line to a high-priced breeder. :(

[stillcool]

8. the dog was returned to the breeder...

by the previous owner.

[KittyWampus]

60. the opening poster KNOWS that and intentionally started this thread as a way to start shit

[doctor jazz]

5. Uh, how exactly does that dog qualify as a 'shelter dog'?

??

[LisaL]

6. Exactly. Either the poster is being ironic, or the poster is

completely un-informed.

[hlthe2b]

11. snide....

I've never owned a pure bred dog and all my babies have been incredibly special. But, while I want to give kudos to rescue groups and shelters, it is not my desire to rid the world of dog breeders, those who try to do so responsibly. Apparently the breeder from whom the Bidens got their G. Shepherd has received an onslaught of hate mail, calls, and even death threats.

For God's sakes, the world is not a black v white environment for every social issue.... :eyes:

[Catchawave]

9. I don't think the breeder friend of the

Kennedys would liken their kennel to a shelter :silly:

Pup certainly wasn't on death row, but kudos to the breeders for "re-homing".

[robinlynne]

10. He didn't get a shelter dog. he got a very expensive purebred from a breeder.

Actually Ted Kenndedy bought it for him as a gift from said breeder in Texas.

[rocktivity]

12. I still don't understand why you can't get a hypollaergenic mutt

from a shelter or pound.

:shrug:
rocktivity

[csziggy]

20. With shelter puppies, it is hard to know what their genetics and characteristics are

So I think the Obamas were limited as to what they could adopt.

But I find it ironic that the same kind of people that laud heirloom varieties of vegetables object to adoption of purebred heirloom breeds of animals. Portuguese water dogs have a long history but there are limited numbers of the dogs bred each year in the US - according to the breed web site, less than 1000 in 1995. The Portuguese Water Dog Club of America also has a very strong rescue program that tries to make sure every single dog bred has a home, even abandoned dogs are searched out by the members - http://www.pwdca.org/breed/rescue

If the Obamas need a purebred - and it seems they do with the allergy problems of one of the girls, they could not have chosen a better breed with more responsible breeders, it seems!

[rocktivity]

23. DING DING DING! Csziggy, you're our grand prize winner!

If the Obamas need a purebred - and it seems they do with the allergy problems of one of the girls...

Thanks very much for the clarification.

I've been confused about this because because during one of Obama's first announcements about getting the dog, he said that due to Malia's allergies, it couldn't be a mutt ("like me"). But I knew there was a qualified DU-er out there who could help!

:loveya:
rocktivity

[LisaL]

26. Maybe somebody could tell me WTF does a "mutt like me" means?

Are we now saying that people have breeds, and some are more purebred than others?

[rocktivity]

35. I took it as a self-depreciating joke

Obama was making a joke about his own biracial "breeding."

:headbang:
rocktivity

[peace13]

72. Ut-oh we know how well that worked with the Special Olympics.

Now the man can't even make light of the fact that he is bi-racial. Call the Cops, our President is crazy!!!!

[northernlights]

88. goldendoodles and labradoodles are hypallergenic and mutts

and widely available in shelters.

They absolutely could have adopted if they'd been serious about it. Apparently they weren't serious about it.

[LisaL]

30. What I've always heard about allergies, is that the person

should meet the actual dog to see if the allergies flare up in the presence of that dog. And there is no such thing as a truly hypo-allergenic breed. Don't tell me I heard it all wrong.

[MineralMan]

45. What I've heard is that people not involved in

decisions regarding family pets should mind their own business. Have you heard that?

[LisaL]

49. Nope.

[AndrewP]

96. hmmmmm. Then maybe don't talk about it publicly in press conferences?

Ever hear about that?

[doctor jazz]

77. You're correct. Any given dog might trigger allergies in any given person...or not.

The ONLY way to know is to put them together and see what happens.
\

[LisaL]

79. And so what does that simple fact means for

having to have a Portuguese water dog because of the allergies?

[doctor jazz]

80. Hell, I don't know. I have nothing at all against used dogs...almost all of my dogs for 50 years

have been previously owned, as they say. Some came from pounds, some from friends who had to give them up and some just wandered into the driveway. To tell the truth, I never even heard of a Portuguese dog before...water or not. I'm sure they're delightful...I think every dog has the potential to be a terrific friend if they're just given a tiny bit of love and care. They appreciate it more than most humans do. :-)

[csziggy]

81. Maybe that is why the selection of their puppy took so long

Maybe they have been "interviewing" puppies and rescued dogs to make sure that their personalities meshed and that it would not trigger an asthma attack. It is really not our business as to exactly how they selected the girls' pet. We just get the vicarious pleasure in watching the two girls enjoy a new family member!

[LisaL]

33. I don't think you can get a truly hypoallergenic dog from anywhere.

Some dog breeds don't shed, etc, so they can cause less allergies than others, but they are not truly hypoallergenic. If somebody suffers from allergies that person should meet the dog in question to see if the allergies flare up.

[ProSense]

13. Shelter dog-gate. n/t

[bvar22]

15. Saying one thing in front of the cameras ...

...and doing something completely different gate.

[ProSense]

17. Luckily they were able to hide the actual dog from the cameras. n/t

[peace13]

18. You should go back and review what he actually said.

I think all options were on the table. Truth be told I think that Obama was a little uncomfortable with the attention and pressure the public placed on his family's choice of a pet. Watch the video again.

[ecstatic]

38. I'm sure you live your life in a rigid fashion and never make

changes to accommodate the changing needs of your family. :eyes:

[LisaL]

51. I fail to see how the needs of his family changed in any way.

They knew they were going to get a dog for a long time.

[MineralMan]

54. And once again, I fail to see how this is any of your concern.

Go to your local homeless shelter and volunteer to help serve the evening meal, OK? Do something instead of whining about the First Puppy.

[LisaL]

66. And again, WTF are you to tell me what I should or shouldn't be

concerned about?

[MineralMan]

70. And again, I am MineralMan, a DU poster who is stating his opinion.

It's not complicated.

[AndrewP]

97. Just quit feeding him

[ecstatic]

55. You don't know what the girls asked their dad

behind closed doors.

[MineralMan]

61. Nor do you. In any case decisions on family pets belong

to the parents. I told my parents I wanted a pet monkey when I was 10 years old. You could order them from the Sears catalog back then. I wanted a spider monkey in the worst way. My parents didn't think it was a good idea, so I didn't get my monkey. Children's wishes are important, but parents decide such issues.

[KittyWampus]

64. And this is the SECOND thread where you reveal your intention was flaming Obama. You KNEW

it was a re-homed dog from a breeder and NOT A SHELTER.

[Catchawave]

82. The shelter promise was for the Humane USA endorsement.

Then the allergies excuse :) No biggie, just politics.

[peace13]

16. As an expert on rescue dogs I am sure that you are aware of the special needs of these animals.

They often require special care. Prior neglect can manifest in aggressive behavior. Who at the WH would have time to make sure that such an adoption would be successful. I think that Obama has enlisted the help of friends to get a dog that will be a match for his children. That was the objective here. It does not detract from the work that you do and should not cause you to feel abandoned. The economy alone will drive the rescue dog mission. In case you wonder, we have adopted two dogs in this family but that was because the animals were a fit for us and not what someone else wanted us to have. Peace, Kim

[LisaL]

22. Well if Obama truly wanted a shelter dog, I am sure he

could have found a puppy without the aggression issues. Of course it wasn't going to be a Portuguese water dog, but he could have gotten some sort of poodle mix. And by the way I doubt most shelters would adopt out aggressive dogs, if because of liability issues.

[GoCubsGo]

27. May I add...?

The Obamas, as far as I know, have never had a dog. You don't want to place a dog with a questionable background in the hands of inexperienced people. Odds are, it would not end well, especially for the dog. I am surprised that so few people even consider that issue.

And, what are the Obamas supposed to do? Tell Sen. Kennedy to take his gift and shove it because of its pedigree? It wouldn't surprise me if this arrangement was made in order to guarantee that the dog will have a good back-up home if it turns out Malia's allergies get too bad.

[SammyWinstonJack]

34. Anyone think that any dog they picked won't have a full time trainer/handler?

Probably paid on the taxpayers' $$$. I don't know why this had too be announced publicly. :shrug: Who really cares?

[peace13]

76. I don't know about that but have you seen the list of dogs that have called the WH home?

As an asthmatic, allergic American I object! The dander in that house must be amazing. :) I like the idea that this dog is not a brand new puppy. With any luck the puddle accidents will be few. My guess is that a trainer may come in to work with the girls and the dog. Dog school is fairly common these days. It sounds like their parents are wanting the girls to be responsible for the creature. (and I use the term 'creature' in a kind way for those tenderhearted animal lovers)

[hisownpetard]

99. The dog is 6 months old and already trained.

[northernlights]

90. ding-ding-ding I call a winner

Those are the best arguments I have seen for the Obama's choice.

And I am grateful they are donating to a humane society in lieu of adopting. Although I still think adopting would have been preferable.

[Ilsa]

92. Great post! I've been away from my computer most of the weekend,

and I've read posts on my phone, but have been unable to respond.

We are also seeking a dog for our family, but we have special circumstances:

My husband wants a dog that can live indoors. That means it will have to e hypoallergenic for ME, and should be for the kids, just in case. Also, I don't want a dog the size of a standard labrador. That's too big for our house and our yard, IMO. It will have to be smaller.

I don't want to have to chase a dog when I/we walk it. It needs to be "loyal". Some dogs, like beagles, will run off if taken off leash, even dig a hole under the fence in the back yard because they feel the need to hunt.

The other important factor is that our oldest son is autistic. He has done well with labradors in the past at grandpa's house. Those dogs will let my son poke and examine and practically give them a physical. Not every dog will do that. We've entertained the neighbors' shelter dogs in our yard. They don't all work well with out kids. I have a friend who has pets on prozac.

The dog has to be smart enough to train, possibly even as a special needs service dog.

It really bugs me that some people on DU think they know enough about the Obama's and their health and living situation that they should decide for them what they HAVE to do when picking a pet.

[MineralMan]

21. Oh, the concern for this is noted....for sure.

What the heck? The White House has a dog. It's already housetrained. It likes kids. It was a gift from Senator Kennedy...perhaps one of his last acts before he's gone. If adopting a shelter dog is a good idea, and I truly think it is, then go adopt one.

Surely there are more important issues for us to discuss. The First Kids have their dog. Leave them the fuck alone to enjoy getting to know it. Find something else to kvetch about.

[Sal Minella]

29. Amen.

[Dappleganger]

37. Glory!

[FloridaJudy]

89. What you said.

:thumbsup:

[Coyote_Bandit]

28. I trust that the Obamas

will select and accept a dog that is appropriate to their needs. I hope it brings them great joy. I could care less if the dog comes from a shelter.

I personally will not take an animal from ***most*** rescue groups. Been there, done that, been approved to take in the animal only to find that its general health was completely misrepresented to me. I already had two special needs animals at the time and could not finance vet care for yet another. Although the dog was young it had severe heart problems and needed a daily regimen of diuretics and digitalis. The failure to disclose the condition was something more than a minor oversight.

I have this bad habit of taking animals to the vet for a complete blood panel and a set of x-rays before making their adoption final. It has saved me thousands of dollars in vet bills and untold heartache. It is a practice I recommend regardless of the source of the animal.

When take in an animal I am making a lifelong commitment to the animal - not to some rescue group. When I take in an animal I will not agree to permit a group to substitute their judgment for my own. After having custody of that animal for a period of time I am the one who is most qualified to know its preferences, its needs, its scope of experiences and acquaintances. Not a rescue group that has had little if any ongoing contact with the animal. And I am the one most qualified to make arrangements for the care of the animal should I be unable to care for it.

Fortunately there are many animals that need loving homes. And there are many sources other than traditional rescue groups which place such animals. The two dogs I have came from veterinarians who were voluntarily caring for animals that most likely would not have been placed by any traditional rescue group. One was a five month old pup with a history of kidney failure who came to me with a recommendation to be euthanized - his best prognosis was "wait and see." The second dog was a year old, had never been inside any type of building, had not been socialized with people and had been viciously attacked by another dog resulting in permanent vision impairment. Both of these dogs have become delightful companions and both are now in their senior years.

Your choices are, of course, your own. I have given this matter considerable thought and cannot see any reason to reconsider or change my views.

[DevonRex]

31. Stupidest post of the month.

[MineralMan]

32. Well, maybe not the stupidest post, but one that ranks up there

in the top ten, I'd say.

[DevonRex]

39. We need a new word. How about sillyupidest?

Because some of the really stupid ones are actually about stuff that matters, even tho they're stupid. This one is a combination, I think, of silly and stupid. Silly because of the subject and stupid because the Obamas said they would "like" to get a shelter dog, not that they "would" get a shelter dog.

[MineralMan]

42. Well, while I recognize that there are a lot of single-issue

folks here on DU, this is the silliest issue I know of. I'm certainly not saying that shelter animals should not be adopted. I've adopted several cats that way. But to make it an issue regarding President Obama choosing a pet for his childre, is simply moronic.

The nonsense over this, including hate messages sent to the breeder, is beyond stupid. Can we not leave our President to decide on personal issues like the choice of a dog without bitching and moaning?

For pete's fucking sake!

[LisaL]

47. Obama brought it on himself by saying he would prefer a shelter dog.

[MineralMan]

52. Yes, and he got a different dog, instead. It's not a matter

of national fucking policy. It's a dog. It's a pet for his children. Why do you care? I simply cannot understand the whining and pouting about this issue at all. It is none of your business. It's none of anyone's business.

Surely you have some other issue that is your business, right? If not, I can suggest several.

[DevonRex]

53. Wow. Now your post is right up there with the OP for sillyupidest award.

[ecstatic]

36. It's always amusing to read the latest poutrage nt

[DevonRex]

40. And to see the contortions they have to go through to BE outraged. nt

[leftstreet]

65. They got a Sheltie? I thought Peru gave them a weird hairless dog

Guess I need to keep up with the Society Pages

:P

[blogslut]

74. Congratulations!

You've won the nitpicky sarcasm FAIL thread of the day.

[Undercurrent]

78. .

Sheesh!

[LWolf]

86. The breeder is not a shelter or rescue organization,

so this dog, having been returned to the breeder, was not a shelter or rescue dog. But then, you knew that.

With that clarified, I don't have any problem with the Obama's choice.

[Born_A_Truman]

93. Unreal.

Your personal thank you was really meant to start a bashing of the Obamas.

[AndrewP]

98. Your sarcasm aimed at the Dear Leader will upset many here.

[Kahuna]

103. Whatever..

:eyes:

[roody]

107. Maybe they will soon feel the need to have two dogs,

and can adopt a rescue dog. Two dogs are much better than one.

[dionysus]

108. oh fer christs sake you are such a loser.... i for one am glad you're miserable.

now please repeat "obama is the president" 50 times...

:hi: