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Mike 03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 07:55 PM
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President Obama and Family: Didn't you get the fuckin' Memo: You should be adopting four million
Edited on Sun Apr-12-09 07:56 PM by Mike 03
homeless dogs and cats, not just one.

There are four million dogs and cats without homes. What is the matter with you? How can you only adopt one dog? Holy smoke, how insensitive you must be...

While you are at it, why don't you lift the world on your shoulder and bless it in the gleaming light of eternal good luck?



:sarcasm:

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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 07:56 PM
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1. They didn't adopt any. It was purchased, a purebred.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 08:00 PM
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3. It was given to them by their good friend Ted Kennedy
after having been returned to the breeder by the first owner.

Frankly, I don't see why their children's pet is anybody else's business. Although it does divert some DU poutrage away from the mistreatment of innocent Somali pirates by the Navy.
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PopSixSquish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 09:18 PM
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14. Ok, I Laughed
Clearly, I'm going to hell...
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ladym55 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 08:03 PM
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5. Actually, it was a gift from Senator Kennedy
Here's a link to one of the stories on the puppy published today:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7995570.stm
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 11:47 AM
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45. who purchased it from a breeder. not an adopted rescue.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 09:19 PM
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15. And that is their business. They don't need to get anyone's approval
on how to obtain a pet for their kids. PERIOD.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 10:49 PM
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23. It was a purebred that the original owners couldn't keep,
for whatever reason.

So they gave it back to the breeder -- because most good breeders have a contract clause that requires that any dog that can't be kept has to go back to them, instead of a shelter. Then the breeder will "re-home" the dog.

Shelters do have some purebreds. But breeders with that contract clause help to reduce the number of dogs who end up in shelters.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 07:59 PM
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2. I like dogs. I like Democrats.
Thank you.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 08:00 PM
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4. this is really juvenile
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 01:31 AM
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31. So . .
are most of his contributions.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 08:03 PM
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6. The point of their getting a dog is IMO to bring some happiness to
the kids.

Ted Kennedy gave them the dog.

I like Ted Kennedy. I like dogs. I like Democrats.

Thank you.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 09:23 PM
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20. WRONGO!!! Apparently the point of getting the dog was to bring happiness
to millions of Americans who presume to have a say so in the matter. :crazy:


:sarcasm:
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 09:26 PM
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22. I guess that's true, My god I am SO provincial.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 01:31 AM
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30. Yes. It's not like all these people would be voting or anything.
:eyes:
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 06:58 AM
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40. So what! Your vote doesn't give you the right to rule his personal life.
:wtf:
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AndrewP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 08:05 PM
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7. The fucking point is to not bring it up if your not going to do it.
Not sure how fucking difficult that is to fucking understand about this fucking issue.

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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 08:07 PM
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9. I think it might be called changing one's mind for personal reasons
Something my X did on a daily basis I might add :) "I will paint the kitchen color X" and then it ended up Y.

He is our president, not our priest.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 09:21 PM
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17. Some people need to act like grown ups and not have a hissy about
something that was never any concern of theirs in the first place.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 10:55 PM
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24. The dog he got COULD have ended up in a shelter, because the original
owners couldn't keep him. However, the breeder had a contract clause requiring that the dog never be put in a shelter, but instead be given back to the breeder if necessary.

This kind of contract clause keeps the number of shelter dogs down. It's a good thing to take a dog in that needs a new home, whether it comes from a shelter or a kennel, like this one did.

Besides, Obama never promised to get a dog from a shelter -- he said he hoped to find one there, but he also needed a dog that would be good for allergies. Getting a dog that needed re-homing was a reasonable alternative.

He also made a donation to a Washington DC humane society.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 12:53 AM
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27. This dog was never in danger of ending up in a shelter.
Edited on Mon Apr-13-09 12:58 AM by LisaL
He is a rare purebred puppy, and the owners would return the dog to the breeder if they couldn't keep it. Which is just what they did. To pretend that somehow the dog was gonna end up on the street if not for Obama is ridiculous.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 01:36 AM
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33. Not all breeders require that dogs be returned, and some people might prefer
to drop off a dog they couldn't handle at the nearest shelter, rather than to have to make arrangements to ship them on a plane back to a breeder.

To anyone who was familiar with these breeds, it was clear that the odds were vanishingly small that the Obama's would find a healthy low-allergy puppy at a shelter. Almost all of those animals either go back to breeding kennels or get taken in by pure bred rescue organizations.

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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 01:40 AM
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34. Well, Obama's dog breeder required that the dogs be returned
to her. By the way I never believed Obama was going to find a Portuguese water dog, a young puppy, in a shelter. If he truly wanted a shelter dog, he should have picked a less rare breed. One of the choices was a poodle mix, which he could have gotten from a shelter.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 01:53 AM
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35. Yep. The minute he said it would be a PWD, I knew they weren't
considering a shelter dog. I figured they had a breeder in mind, too. Apparently, I was right.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 07:03 AM
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41. Poodle mix dogs also get scooped up by poodle and poodle-mix rescues.
Edited on Mon Apr-13-09 07:08 AM by pnwmom
Few poodle-mix puppies end up at the pound; those that do, usually end up being transferred to rescues.

It's been clear from the very beginning that the only thing the Obamas "truly wanted" was the best dog for their daughters. In theory, they hoped to get a medium size hypo-allergenic puppy from a shelter, but they didn't know how difficult that would be -- neither of the Obamas had ever even owned a dog before. So they listened to a close friend's advice and chose a healthy puppy, with genetic testing, from a trusted breeder. That breeder has a "no shelter" contract, so at least that breeder won't be contributing to the shelter overload.

And the Obamas made a donation to the local pound. I'm sure most pounds would love it if every person who bought a dog at a breeder also sent a donation their way.

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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 08:06 PM
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8. You know, the funniest is: the ihateoabam people, from Clinton primary season onward....
whined about how Obama supporters "worshipped" him like he was god.

Naturally, that was complete bullshit, like pretty much everything ihateobama people say.

But now that he's here, they're acting disappointed that not every single thing is going perfectly. That is, they're disappointed that he isn't god.

Fucking worthless whiner hypocrites.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 07:53 AM
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43. Whom, exactly, are you referring to?
I don't approve of Obama's nomination, election, or agenda. I never have, and I was never a Clinton supporter, either. A point so many can't seem to "get."

Yet I do approve of the new Obama dog, and hope he brings as much love to the Obama family as my dog brings to me.

I have no problem with acquiring a dog from a responsible breeder. If we are ever able to "fix" the pet overpopulation problem, responsible breeders will be the only breeders left. What, exactly, are we working towards?

To continue the flood of "accidentally let it happen" breedings, feral breedings, and puppy mill animals, so that there are always millions of excess animals who can't find good homes?

Or to end those breeding events and rely on responsible breeders to perpetuate the pets?

Meanwhile, I suggest the following measures as a good start:

1. Require a license to breed, along with harsh fines and sanctions for irresponsible breeding practices. How harsh? Harsh enough to discourage violators.

2. Require all breeders, shelters, pet stores, rescue operations, and pet owners to microchip their pets, entered into a national database.

3. Require all pets not owned by licensed breeders to be spayed/neutered.

4. Make sure that all animals picked up by any shelter, rescue, or similar organization are microchipped, spayed, and neutered before rehoming.

5. Require training classes for pet owners, that not only teach animal "obedience," but sound, humane care of pets.

Encourage responsible pet ownership, and discourage dumping, through a massive public awareness campaign.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 08:08 PM
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10. Ok, I like cats too. I like dogs better but I do like cats.
I'm kind of neutral on goldfish. I got nothing against 'em, though. If you happen to have goldfish or other fish of one or another kind, that's entirely fine with me.

Hampsters? Gerbils? Rabbits? Truth be told, I haven't developed a strong opinion of them one way or the other. Again, I certainly can't object to someone's having any or all these creatures as pets. I've known people who had on or more or several of these kinds of animals.

And they all did pretty well over an extended period, with a few tragic exceptions.

Did anybody ever read John Steinbeck's THE RED PONY? What a good story that is.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 01:13 AM
Response to Reply #10
28. I like gerbils. They are friendly and low smelling for rodents
they love to dig and chew and you can hold them in your hand. They are very cute and sweet.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 06:44 AM
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39. Although I've never owned one I know folks who do and they agree with
what you said.


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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 08:10 PM
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11. Now you know what's interesting is that in olden times there were dragons
and they like, you know, hung around with people. And people could ride them and take care of them.

This is documented in story books, by the way.


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PopSixSquish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 09:20 PM
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16. 2nd Time on This Thread I've Laughed
I'm deranged and need to be sent to one of those "holier than thou" re-education camps...
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 09:23 PM
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19. LOL! They may have to send us both in the same wagon.
I'm pretty much at the point where I'll require massive p.r.n. medication and 4-point restraints.
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PopSixSquish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 09:26 PM
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21. I Knew There was a Reason I Read Your Posts
Edited on Sun Apr-12-09 09:26 PM by PopSixSquish
Like always knows like...
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 01:15 AM
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29. Riding dragons is well documented
"I'm a nasty nasty dragon" was my 3rd grader's favorite poem also
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 06:42 AM
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38. Well there you have it! the evidence is clear, the tradition is strong,
and dragons it is!


:thumbsup:
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 08:27 PM
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12. An inane exaggeration of the kind made by idiots.
Who want to discourage people from ever doing a good or decent thing because there is always so much more to be done.

People of intelligence tend not to be taken in by idiotic exaggerations...but it does tire us.
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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 08:43 PM
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13. God forbid anyone in this country ever wants a purebred
Our boys were neutered before we even brought them home. We signed a contract, one which states that our cats are surrendered to the breeder if we ever find ourselves unable to take care of them. We've had many shelter cats over the years, and after we lost our beautiful Merlin to fibrosarcoma, we'll never have another shelter pet again that we can't verify how many vaccinations, etcetera...

In the meantime, here's the most ironic part of all of this to me.

Some of the same people who are bitching and moaning about how terrible those who breed animals are don't give two shits about the fact that there are 250,000 kids in foster care in this country who are ALSO looking for a home. The anti-shelter people insist on breeding their own kids, don't they?

Isn't it the same thing?
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 12:52 AM
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26. You've lost me. WTF do children in foster care have to do
with Obama getting a dog from a breeder? By the way Obama didn't adopt any kids either. What point are you even trying to make?

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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 01:56 AM
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36. Here, let me help you
It's verboten to ever consider getting a pet from a breeder here, isn't it? At the same time, some of those who are the most vociferous anti-breeders have no problem with having a baby, as opposed to adopting one of the 250,000 children currently in the foster care system in the USA. In other words, animals bring howls of protest; humans? Meh. They should have chosen better, huh?

I think it's comical. I also think that one has quite a lot to do with the other.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 02:07 AM
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37. Are you proposing "spay and neuter" campaign for humans?
I fail to see what one has to do with the other.
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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 11:16 AM
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44. It certainly wouldn't be a bad idea
Considering the fact that there are so many kids in the foster care system who have no hope of an adoption, perhaps it would be a good thing to even attempt to find those kids homes first.

And yes, they have everything to do with each other. In other words, perhaps the anti-breeder folk need to mind their own business, unless they can back up their rhetoric in their personal choices.
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Control-Z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 01:34 PM
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49. While LisaL insists on
being obtuse, I agree with your point and had the same thoughts myself. I almost said as much yesterday, but before posting my message I realized there would be a whole slew of LisaL's who would claim to not get it.

I understand the passion that people have for whatever cause they hold near and dear. But dictating what others do is complete BS and freeper like. I was in foster care as a child/teen and believe children should be a priority. I would still never insist that an infertile couple adopt rather than use fertility treatments.
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 09:21 PM
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18. Aren't you just too cute
:eyes:
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cherish44 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 11:06 PM
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25. Pet ownership enslaves animals
Edited on Sun Apr-12-09 11:07 PM by cherish44
AMENSETY!!! Free them from their tyrannical overlords!!!
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 01:32 AM
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32. How long does it take you to think up this shit?
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 07:08 AM
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42. Some people didn't get the memo..
that it is none of their damn business what type of dog they choose or where they got it from...Did these same people tell Bush or any other president what type of dog to choose. People think that they have the right to ask some asinine questions of this pres and set up different standards that we have never heard of before..
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 11:51 AM
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46. Universal blessing... didn't know Obama was also the Pope
piece of trivia... the pope does issue a blessing for the world on Holy Sunday

things that US Papers will never, ever cover... but am reminded of it every time I visit home
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tuckessee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 12:01 PM
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47. Are you trying to be witty?
You failed miserably.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 12:04 PM
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48. They saved a dog that would have otherwise ended up in a shelter
So, please all you special interest group people, cool it!

And in any event a hypoallergenic Portugeese Water Puppydog is not exactly easy to find in a shelter.

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