I just wonder what it would have taken for some DUers

[FLAprogressive]

to not get totally outraged over the US taking action against the pirates.

Would the pirates have had to kill a crew member? 2? 3?

I am all for peace, but I am also for self-defense and protecting American citizens.

And those wanting to turn this into some "eco-war" and make the Pirates "environmental heroes" are shameful. Two wrongs do not make a right, and taking people who have not done anything wrong hostage is immoral no matter what.

[slackmaster]

1. I'm outraged that they haven't killed a whole lot more pirates

And hoping that the rules of engagement that constrain our Navy's actions are promptly revised to allow more killing of pirates.

[rug]

3. How many pirates do you want to kill?

[slackmaster]

9. Every last fucking one of them

:hi:

[rug]

10. How many is that?

[slackmaster]

13. There are too many of them

One is too many.

[rug]

16. Can't you put a number on the amount of humans you want to kill?

[slackmaster]

17. No, why does it matter?

To be called a pirate (meaning a bandit at sea, not someone who makes illegal copies of software, etc.) a person has to commit a violent crime - Robbery or kidnapping at the very least. Use of force or threat of use of force to steal stuff. They are by definition a threat to life and limb.

It's always OK with me to use deadly force against a robber or kidnapper. If you kidnap or rob someone, you have forfeited your right to live.

[burning rain]

14. I wouldn't put a number on it; I'm not bloodthirsty.

But any number whom US forces kill while carrying out or attempting pirate attacks is fine by me. I wouldn't support bombing the coast of Somalia into a moonscape or invading that country and bringing it "democracy," as Republicans might prefer.

[Bluebear]

2. "Some DUer's"

:eyes:

Can you point out who called the pirates heroes? Thank you.

[FLAprogressive]

6. Just look....there's tons of outrage over the Navy doing what it was supposed to do

[Bluebear]

8. I'm asking you to point it out. I don't see anyone calling the pirates heroes as you claim.

[hlthe2b]

15. If ,so then YOU need to show us...

Otherwise, I suspect you are just stirring the shit.

[Two Americas]

21. it is the latest set of talking points

We will hear the lines in this OP repeated over and over and over again now for about a week, hundreds of times.

This is getting stranger and stranger. It didn't even occur to me as the story unfolded that it had anything to do with Obama. "Obama versus the pirates - pick one. If you are not for us, you are against us."

Is every single subject from here on out going to be held to this same absurd standard? Is everything going to be about Obama, and will there always be one and only one acceptable line to take on every issue, according to how it fits into the Obama drama in people's fervent imaginations?

Maybe this drama is all being manufactured by cable TV political news shows? It is the strangest thing I have seen in a while.

WTF does Obama have to do with Somali pirates? What did he do that is any different from what any other president would do under the circumstances? If Bush were still president and did the exact same thing, I am certain that we could talk about this subject just the way we are now without people losing their minds over it.



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[rockymountaindem]

4. The deployment of Spider Man to peacefully detain the pirates with webs

That would do it.

[flvegan]

5. I was chastized for suggesting a sniper hit.

Guess I was in the right on that call.

Fact is, some DUers have perpetually twisted knickers. It takes nothing to get them to squeal.

[FLAprogressive]

you evil warmonger

:P

[flvegan]

11. First vegan warmonger evah!!!

:rofl:

[old mark]

24. Actually Hitler was a vegetarian, and he was pretty aggressive....

he really hated smoking and alcohol use as well.

mark

[Hamlette]

7. This is the same strawman as "they want to read the terrorists' their rights"

both are BS

We want some resolution to the ppl at Gitmo but it is not about reading them their rights, its about a fair and just resolution.

I don't care about the pirates. They made a deal to turn Phillips over then did not keep their end of the bargain.

[hlthe2b]

12. I've seen nothing but relief and kudos for the Navy on this...

Still, some seem determined to continue the shit stirring. :shrug:

[Bluebear]

18. Notice we got no citation of the "hooray for the hero pirates!" accusation

[hlthe2b]

23. NO surprise... DU has been teeming with trolls....

[cherish44]

19. There are people who do not have any regard for human life

they would kill you in the blink of an eye with no remorse or regret. No amount of love, therapy, hugs, education or reasoning will help them. If it's between the life of an innocent person who was just doing his job and a criminal who would kill another human being if they don't get paid some money, I'm all for saving the innocent one.

[Two Americas]

20. unbelievable

No one is doing any such thing, but now we will have THIS repeated over and over and over again.

No one is denying the need for self-defense and protecting American citizens.

No one is making make the Pirates "environmental heroes."

No one is wanting to turn this into some "eco-war"

No one is saying that two wrongs make a right.

No one is defending taking people hostage.


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[EmilyAnne]

22. Bill Murray?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pOJlYcDpAw