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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 12:59 PM
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What's Really Happening In Somalia
Edited on Mon Apr-13-09 01:04 PM by lame54
What The International Media Aren't Telling You About Somalia Pirates
By Susie Madrak Sunday Apr 12, 2009 6:30am
Johann Hari from The Independent:

In 1991, the government of Somalia collapsed. Its nine million people have been teetering on starvation ever since – and the ugliest forces in the Western world have seen this as a great opportunity to steal the country's food supply and dump our nuclear waste in their seas.

Yes: nuclear waste. As soon as the government was gone, mysterious European ships started appearing off the coast of Somalia, dumping vast barrels into the ocean. The coastal population began to sicken. At first they suffered strange rashes, nausea and malformed babies. Then, after the 2005 tsunami, hundreds of the dumped and leaking barrels washed up on shore. People began to suffer from radiation sickness, and more than 300 died.

Ahmedou Ould-Abdallah, the UN envoy to Somalia, tells me: "Somebody is dumping nuclear material here. There is also lead, and heavy metals such as cadmium and mercury – you name it." Much of it can be traced back to European hospitals and factories, who seem to be passing it on to the Italian mafia to "dispose" of cheaply. When I asked Mr Ould-Abdallah what European governments were doing about it, he said with a sigh: "Nothing. There has been no clean-up, no compensation, and no prevention."

At the same time, other European ships have been looting Somalia's seas of their greatest resource: seafood. We have destroyed our own fish stocks by overexploitation – and now we have moved on to theirs. More than $300m-worth of tuna, shrimp, and lobster are being stolen every year by illegal trawlers. The local fishermen are now starving. Mohammed Hussein, a fisherman in the town of Marka 100km south of Mogadishu, told Reuters: "If nothing is done, there soon won't be much fish left in our coastal waters."

This is the context in which the "pirates" have emerged...

http://crooksandliars.com/susie-madrak/what-international-media-isnt-telling
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 01:00 PM
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1. oh my. yet another late comer to the party...
and here we go again.

Want some? :popcorn:
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 01:11 PM
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8. Yeah, popcorn sounds good. This is becoming hysterically funny.
I think we've been overrun.
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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 04:16 PM
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15. "Overrun" by people who don't want nuclear waste...
illegally dumped anywhere. Yeah that's real hysterical.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 04:19 PM
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16. man, have you actually followed what's been going on or do you perfer your
Edited on Mon Apr-13-09 04:19 PM by Javaman
brand of knee jerk reaction.

The Italians were the ones dumping the waist. the pirates attacked a humanitarin relief ship. They did it in international waters.

What else don't you know?

man, this topic has been so popcorn worthly I've gotten stuffed! :popcorn:
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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 04:57 PM
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19. you seem to be mixing the stories -but I guess you PERFER that...
Edited on Mon Apr-13-09 04:57 PM by lame54

I'm glad the pirates were taken out
but this has brought these other atrocities to the world's attention - and they shouldn't be ignored


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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 09:58 PM
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20. it appears that you live your DU name. ta. nt
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 01:01 PM
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2. Um
:eyes:
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VeraAgnes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 01:03 PM
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3. I don't give a damn.
I would suggest they move the dumping directly onto Somalia.......
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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 01:05 PM
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4. that's comforting
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VeraAgnes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 02:32 PM
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10. One could only dream!
I have my fingers crossed!
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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 01:05 PM
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5. Bookmarked
Thanks, people have been asking me to direct them to pro-war-with-Somalia posts. This one will do just fine.
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VeraAgnes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 02:35 PM
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12. Heck....refer them to me for an I hate Somolia view
cause I have no use for pirate-criminals and/or terrorist as they seem to resemble. They certainly are not fishermen........
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 03:18 PM
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14. Somalia is a huge threat to the American people. Do you want a mushroom cloud to
be confirmation, or don't you think we should just go in right now and take over? :sarcasm:
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 04:29 PM
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18. Oh no, it must be a takeover w/o the shock & awe because we have
work to do, specifically oil to drill. Rah, rah...

:eyes:
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JPZenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 01:08 PM
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6. The pirates should capture fishing vessels and dumpers
If the pirates were capturing vessels doing the overfishing and vessels doing illegal dumping, we wouldn't be having this conversation. They could form their own coast guard and keep the ships. That does not excuse holding people hostage or capturing a ship full of emergency relief supplies.

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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 01:10 PM
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7. What's Really Happening In Somalia
What The International Media Aren't Telling You About Somalia Pirates
By Susie Madrak Sunday Apr 12, 2009 6:30am
Johann Hari from The Independent:

In 1991, the government of Somalia collapsed. Its nine million people have been teetering on starvation ever since – and the ugliest forces in the Western world have seen this as a great opportunity to steal the country's food supply and dump our nuclear waste in their seas.

Yes: nuclear waste. As soon as the government was gone, mysterious European ships started appearing off the coast of Somalia, dumping vast barrels into the ocean. The coastal population began to sicken. At first they suffered strange rashes, nausea and malformed babies. Then, after the 2005 tsunami, hundreds of the dumped and leaking barrels washed up on shore. People began to suffer from radiation sickness, and more than 300 died.

Ahmedou Ould-Abdallah, the UN envoy to Somalia, tells me: "Somebody is dumping nuclear material here. There is also lead, and heavy metals such as cadmium and mercury – you name it." Much of it can be traced back to European hospitals and factories, who seem to be passing it on to the Italian mafia to "dispose" of cheaply. When I asked Mr Ould-Abdallah what European governments were doing about it, he said with a sigh: "Nothing. There has been no clean-up, no compensation, and no prevention."

At the same time, other European ships have been looting Somalia's seas of their greatest resource: seafood. We have destroyed our own fish stocks by overexploitation – and now we have moved on to theirs. More than $300m-worth of tuna, shrimp, and lobster are being stolen every year by illegal trawlers. The local fishermen are now starving. Mohammed Hussein, a fisherman in the town of Marka 100km south of Mogadishu, told Reuters: "If nothing is done, there soon won't be much fish left in our coastal waters."

This is the context in which the "pirates" have emerged...

http://crooksandliars.com/susie-madrak/what-international-media-isnt-telling
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 01:34 PM
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9. stop it, just stop it!!!
my eyes are starting to bleed!!!
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 02:33 PM
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11. DU has some really neat features
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 03:16 PM
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13. So wait. Let me get this right. They are dumping nuclear waste in the sea, and taking seafood back
to Europe. Seems like karmic retribution, in a way.
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mudesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 04:23 PM
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17. .
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 10:00 PM
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21. Tsunamis do not work that way.
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