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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-14-09 01:38 AM
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Navy SEALS were secretly in Katrina. Fox News told not to report on it. Why?
Edited on Tue Apr-14-09 01:44 AM by pnwmom
I thought we weren't supposed to deploy our military within our borders. . . . does anyone know why the SEALS were in N. O.?

Did other news orgs see the SEALS? Why didn't they report that? Since we were not at war with New Orleans (though it appeared like that at times), why should the news media keep SEALS sightings a secret?

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,515517,00.html

VAN SUSTEREN: You know, I love to see them get the credit for this because so much of what they do, we never get to hear about because it's done secretly. They were even at Katrina. Down in New Orleans, we saw them moving around in boats, and we weren't supposed to mention them at the time because they were Navy SEALs. But the -- I mean, the operation, the training and what they accomplished is nothing short of amazing.

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wickerwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-14-09 01:44 AM
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1. Maybe residual shame over violation of posse comitatus?
Bush wiped his ass with the tradition of not deploying military troops domestically, but that doesn't mean some of his generals didn't realize it was unconstitutional.
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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-14-09 01:44 AM
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2. I'm thinking she's full of shit.
What the hell would Navy SEALS be doing at Katrina?
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-14-09 01:46 AM
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3. Exactly. What the hell would Navy SEALS be doing in Katrina?
But I'm not so sure she's full of shit.
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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-14-09 01:52 AM
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6. 82nd Airborne was deployed to N.O.
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Optical.Catalyst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-14-09 05:44 AM
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13. 101st Airborne Division was deployed to Little Rock, Arkansas in September of 1957

the 101st Airborne's deployment to Little Rock, Arkansas, in September of 1957 to assist in maintaining order during a series of civil disturbances. The unrest was a result of the integration of Central High School in Little Rock. This was a major event in the quest for racial equality and the professionalism of the troops of the 101st Airborne prevented possible tragedy.


http://www.ridinthewave.com/thinkytees/101stAirborne.html
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-14-09 01:50 AM
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5. Maybe she saw some National Guardsmen (who can deploy in national emergencies to
provide disaster relief under the direction of their governors) and she didn't know the frigging difference.

After all, the Army has more boats than the Navy (oh yeah). She might have asked some fellow in a boat what the guy was, and got goofed on by a Guardsman.
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jmg257 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-14-09 08:09 AM
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16. dp
Edited on Tue Apr-14-09 08:09 AM by jmg257
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-14-09 11:05 AM
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23. Matthew McConaughey, or however its spelled, played Dirk Pitt in "Sahara."

Dirk Pitt was an ex-SEAL. Matthew was tooling around in the area, during Katrina, helping out.

Solved.

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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-14-09 01:50 AM
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4. That's some great journalistic integrity there Greta.
NOT!
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Hanse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-14-09 01:53 AM
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7. She slept with a bunch of frat boys who said they were Navy SEALs.
And they told her not to talk about it.

Simplest explanation.
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Reform Donating Member (417 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-14-09 01:55 AM
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8. What do you need the military in Katrina for when....
You had Black water there disarming citizen's:P
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Lil Missy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-14-09 01:59 AM
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9. Her mouth is crooked. She lies. n/y
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tkmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-14-09 02:15 AM
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10. I doubt she would know a SEAL from a walrus
If a story's only source is FoxNews, it's not a story. They have less credibility than Alex Jones.
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Reform Donating Member (417 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-14-09 02:25 AM
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12. say what you will about Mr jones
He did break that MIAC report, a report that barely got a whisper here im sad to say.
That story crosses political partisanship
Describing people who support an outside party as potential criminals and terrorists is just wrong.
Having a bumper sticker that says end the fed should not be against the law im sorry.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-14-09 08:22 AM
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20. that's exactly what this fellow said,
Edited on Tue Apr-14-09 08:23 AM by merh
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katanalori Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-14-09 02:21 AM
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11. well..........
There was lots of water in New Orleans after Katrina, right? Where there is water, there are Navy seals, right? I also "see" the Navy Seals every time it rains. I "see" them even when a fire hydrant breaks, even when a dog pees. My name is Greta, and I am delusional.
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jmg257 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-14-09 08:05 AM
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14. The President has the authority to use the military in the US
Edited on Tue Apr-14-09 08:07 AM by jmg257
via the Warner Act of 2006, under conditions like Katrina...


SEC. 1076. USE OF THE ARMED FORCES IN MAJOR PUBLIC EMERGENCIES.

(a) Use of the Armed Forces Authorized.--

(1) In general.--Section 333 of title 10, United States
Code, is amended to read as follows:

``Sec. 333. Major public emergencies; interference with State and
Federal law

``(a) Use of Armed Forces in Major Public Emergencies.--(1) The
President may employ the armed forces, including the National Guard in
Federal service, to--
``(A) restore public order and enforce the laws of the
United States when, as a result of a natural disaster, epidemic,
or other serious public health emergency, terrorist attack or
incident, or other condition in any State or possession of the
United States, the President determines that--
``(i) domestic violence has occurred to such an
extent that the constituted authorities of the State or
possession are incapable of maintaining public order;
and
``(ii) such violence results in a condition
described in paragraph (2); or
``(B) suppress, in a State, any insurrection, domestic
violence, unlawful combination, or conspiracy if such
insurrection, violation, combination, or conspiracy results in a condition described in paragraph (2).

``(2) A condition described in this paragraph is a condition that--
``(A) so hinders the execution of the laws of a State or
possession, as applicable, and of the United States within that
State or possession, that any part or class of its people is
deprived of a right, privilege, immunity, or protection named in the Constitution and secured by law, and the constituted
authorities of that State or possession are unable, fail, or
refuse to protect that right, privilege, or immunity, or to give that protection; or...
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-14-09 08:07 AM
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15. But Katrina happened a year earlier, in 2005.
So under what authority were the SEALS there, and why were they kept a secret?
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jmg257 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-14-09 08:09 AM
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17. Ahh - excellent point! I stand corrected! NOT the Warner Act, then, but MAYBE the
Edited on Tue Apr-14-09 08:36 AM by jmg257
Civil Disturbance Statutes: 10 U.S.C.?...

"...Congress has also approved the use of the military in civilian law enforcement through the Civil Disturbance Statutes: 10 U.S.C., sections 331–334. These provisions permit the president to use military personnel to enforce civilian laws where the state has requested assistance or is unable to protect civil rights and property. In case of civil disturbance, the president must first give an order for the offenders to disperse. If the order is not obeyed, the president may then authorize military forces to make arrests and restore order. The scope of the Civil Disturbance Statutes is sufficiently broad to encompass civil disturbance resulting from terrorist or other criminal activity. It was these provisions that were relied upon to restore order using active-duty Army personnel following the Los Angeles “race riots” of the early 1990s.

Federal military personnel may also be used pursuant to the Stafford Act, 42 U.S.C., section 5121, in times of natural disaster upon request from a state governor.


http://www.homelandsecurity.org/journal/articles/Trebilcock.htm

"there is the Stafford Act, 42 U.S.C., Section 5121, which allows federal troops to be deployed in times of natural disaster at the request of a governor, as President Bush requested of Governor Blanco. Under this Act a president may declare a major disaster and send in forces on an emergency basis for up to 10 days to preserve life and property."

Hmmm...
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-14-09 08:11 AM
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18. There were reports of pirates.
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-14-09 08:13 AM
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19. Xenu was there, too.
He was the supernatural guiding force saving all those poor people in New Oreleans...oh, wait, that didn't happen, either.
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-14-09 08:25 AM
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21. They were secretly painting the levees with nano-thermite
Not many people know about the super-double-secret Homeopathic SEAL team specially trained in the covert application of nano-explosive coatings.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-14-09 08:25 AM
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22. Everything else aside, they were probably best equipped to provide information
as to what's really going on.

What Bush did with that info is anyone's guess, it probably just gave him a chubby to 'send in the seals'
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