What we need is Revolution. What we got is Revelation.

[omega minimo]

The peaceful revolution of the American transfer of power has allowed that nation and the world to breathe a sigh of relief.

The same old song being sung by the global corporate powers that be have picked up the same tune, though, and the rest of us are required to follow the dance.

The perceived conflict between scrutinizing the ongoing global shell game and primordial ponzi scheme that should rightfully be called Bankstergate, and pointing an unwelcome finger at a newly elected and universally welcomed American president, is overblown.

Not only is President Barack Obama Anybody-But-Bush, he is someone who appears to have a real connection with real people as a person, as a professional and as a president.

What many Americans also want to hope is that he has a real connection with redirecting the perverted status quo of the trickle down economics of the past 28 years.

Despite our homogenized, televised, corporatized culture, we Americans is not dumb. We don't need no economics degree to recall that you don't buy a pig in a poke -- and even if you do, you don't keep doin' it.

For weeks now, the economic talking heads have appeared on reputable TV broadcasts and described how important it is that valueless assets that have destroyed the economy be revalued so they can revive the economy.

And the foxes who sold the valueless assets not only get to be in charge of revaluing the valueless assets but get to run the asset chicken coop, located next to the pig poke.

We need a revolution of recognition that pigs still do not fly out of the poke and circle around through the heavens to dispense miracles, bubbles, rainbows and cash dividends.

We need a revolution of recognition that people KNOW that you don't put the foxes in charge of the henhouse next to that pig in the poke you keep buyin'.

We need a revolution of recognition that no matter how much we respect our newly elected Chief Executive, our support of him does not preclude telling the financial vampires and high falutin' snake oil salesmen to get the hell away from our treasury, our government and our future.

Meanwhile, a woman, fiery and virginal, solid and brave, emerges from church services in "a collection of villages" in East Lothian to calmly deliver REVELATION where REVOLUTION will not be found.

Meanwhile, the woman's voice, simple and free, heartfelt and unmolested by generic trends, hooker fashions and supercomputer soundboards, has kicked the props out of all the phony baloney games and gizmos that prop up corporate conglomerated crapfantastic business as usual.

One person, one voice has burnt away all the hoops we as citizens and survivors of today's global economy are supposed to jump through.

One middle aged person has trounced the youth obsessed, product obsessed, media obsessed sham for all time.

One child who was starved for oxygen at birth and ridiculed throughout life has given the greatest gift -- the breath of life -- back to a world tricked by false expectations, addicted to bogus products, shackled to servitude to feed the addictions, that the media spectacle glamorizes 24/7/365.

By the simple act of being.

That is what is truly revolutionary and revelatory. What corporate vampires fear. There are no gizmos, no levers, no knobs or focus groups, no twitterers, no pushbuttons, no magic pad to wave at, no oversaturation of options to tune out from the here and now.

This one woman is proof, that to change the world, all one need is the hear and now.

This is the Song of the Earth. This is the voice of the planet and our common humanity. This is the future.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lp0IWv8QZY

[The Wielding Truth]

1. Wow... nice.

[omega minimo]

6. thanks

:hi:

[bbgrunt]

2. beautiful .

[omega minimo]

4. cheers

:toast:

like the Brits say "Not bad" ... is high praise :pals:

[Barack_America]

3. I read that she's going to be on The Early Show tomorrow morning (Thursday)

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/04/susan-boyle-to-perform-on-thursdays-early-show.html

[omega minimo]

5. thanks fer that! Very best to her

[omega minimo]

7. I'm actually flattered that the first replies are quite subtle, followed by a deafening silence

long live the damn SCOTS!!!!!!!

[JDPriestly]

8. Thanks. Obama needs to embrace the anger and punish the criminals

that got the country into this mess. He has got to stop protecting them. It is not just the tea-baggers who are angry. There is a lot of anger on DU too.

And yes, Susan Boyle was amazing -- because her voice and her manner are so honest.

[omega minimo]

10. Yes

and honest people the world over acknowledge that something that has no real value has no real value.

The miracle of real value on the stage of phony valueless commodification makes it more obvious.

:thumbsup:

[kas125]

9. Wow, thank you, that was brilliant.

[omega minimo]

11. much obliged

[girl gone mad]

12. I like that she sings a song from Les Miserables.

Too few people these days relate to Jean Valjean, too many sympathize with Javert.

[omega minimo]

15. Good point!

[Beam Me Up]

13. Thank you, that was wonderful! n/t

[I Have A Dream]

14. Thank you for this, om.

K&R.

:hug:

[omega minimo]

16. As the one judge said

it was a privilege to hear her.


:hug:
IHAD

[KoKo]

17. K&R...

[JeffR]

18. An uplifting read on a sunny morning.

Well done!

[omega minimo]

19. Thanks JeffR. Here's to upliftingness.

:toast:

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

20. This new sitcom based on the Geico caveman commercials is really going places.

I can't wait. It'll be television history.

[omega minimo]

25. Son, sometimes cynicism is its own punishment

:hug:

[malaise]

21. Super thread

Time to take back our planet. That's my dream.

[omega minimo]

24. Looks like the Dream is dreaming us. What an eye/heart opener.

:toast:

[Uncle Joe]

22. Well done, omega minimo.

Thanks for the thread.:thumbsup:

[omega minimo]

23. Obliged, Uncle Joe

:pals:

[Turborama]

26. 15th rec. & bookmarked Thank-you

I'm speechless and don't know what to add.

:kick:

[omega minimo]

27. oh

:cry: that's humbling. the depth of this happening is stunning. I'm the one that says "you never know what will happen" esp. to, say, strategerists allowing a criminal cabal to run/ruin the country b/c they KNOW FOR SURE what would happen if investigations and impeachment were to occur... so they won't do the right thing b/c they know ahead of time exactly how it will turn out....... which is, of course, insane.

This miracle is completely unexpected and will continue to resonate.

Thank you. It's a "privilege" to witness this, like the talent judge said.

om

[Skidmore]

28. I watched that wonderful woman on my computer and then I channel surfed

and caught a glimpse of "The Real Housewives of NYC." I felt ill with disappointment. Why do we even have shows like that on television?

[omega minimo]

29. Scary, isn't it? Why do we have shows like that.............?

one big reason is "reality TV" which is NOT reality.......

What do you think?

[Evoman]

30. Give me a break!

Lol...I mean...I thought she was a pretty damn good singer. I would even like to hear more.

But people are getting carried away with this Susan Boyle stuff. Ok, she can sing. We get it. Lot's of people can. Even not so attractive people.

I mean, geez. You'd think she was the second coming of Jebus the way people are carrying on.

[omega minimo]

31. You'll understand when you evolve. We'll wait for you........

:hug:




You didn't hear the shattering of assumptions and cliches and marketing niches that have the planet in a deathgrip during that performance? :shrug:

[Evoman]

33. Oh yeah, cuz being over-emotional and irrationally exuberant because a woman can sing is

so much more evolved.

Seriously...good singer. I hope she gets a contract. I might even buy her CD.

But fuck, pretty soon you people will be praying at the Temple of Boyle, and using her angelic voice to re-fire up the Grid (the first time didn't take so well, I hear).

[omega minimo]

37. "Exuberant"? Damn straight. "Irrational"? If rational = heartless."Emotional"? Yes. "Over"? As in

all OVER the world?

All over the world people are responding to this honestly and enthusiastically. You gotta prollem with that? Doesn't the immediacy of the response speak to something deeper or transcendent?

Wonder why that's hard for you to relate to.

:hug:

[Evoman]

39. I don't know. Maybe I'm a robot. I just don't get people like you.

To me, it seems like another meme. Another viral video. It's nicer than others, I'll give you that. I just think your getting carried away.

Couple of months down the road, I'm sure something else will catch your fancy, and you'll probably proclaim a new revolution.

[omega minimo]

40. That's fine but you might question your own need to be insulting about it.

(I typoed "insulating" so there's your answer)

[Evoman]

41. Insulting about it? Dude, you told me that I wasn't evolved.

I don't recall being insulting at all, apart from telling you that your gettting carried away.

[omega minimo]

43. Dude, you could evolve a sense of humor!!

:eyes: :spray:

Your post, your opinion, fine and then the put down:

"I'm sure something else will catch your fancy, and you'll probably proclaim a new revolution."

Or maybe that's a compliment. :rofl:

[Evoman]

44. So when I get insulted, it's about getting a sense of humour, and when

I respond, I am being insulting.

Yes, I think I understand how this works.

[omega minimo]

47. so it's too late for the sense of humor? you seem to want to fight. no need.

:hi:

[Evoman]

48. I'm not fighting. I just didn't really agree with your OP because I thought your making

more of this woman (which I will repeat, is a good singer) than is necessary. The only reason I'm responding now is because, frankly, I find you condescending and want to share my real thoughts, not what you THINK my thoughts are.

If your done with this conversation, then so am I.

[omega minimo]

50. OK. I'm sorry you're offended. Thank you for sharing your thoughts. I thought I made it clear they

were also welcome and acknowledged................... musta been the missing smilie I shoulda used so you didn't take that "evolve" seriesly. Wonder if there is one for :irony: or :tongueincheek: ;)

[omega minimo]

52. Did he think that was serious?

:yoiks: :wow: note to self, must use ;)

[malaise]

54. Check this

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/apr/16/britains-got-talent-susan-boyle
<snip>
The judges were astonished. They gasped, they gaped, they clapped. They looked almost ashamed. I was briefly worried that Simon might stab himself with a pencil, and mutter, "Et tu, Piers, for we have wronged Susan in thinking that because she is a munter, she is entirely useless." How could they have misjudged her, they gesticulated. But how could they not? No makeup? Bad teeth? Funny hair? Is she insane, this sad little Scottish spinster, beloved only of Pebbles the Cat?

When Susan had finished singing, and Piers had finished gasping, he said this. It was a comment of incredible spite. "When you stood there with that cheeky grin and said, 'I want to be like Elaine Paige', everyone was laughing at you. No one is laughing now." And it was over to Amanda Holden, a woman most notable for playing a psychotic hairdresser in the Manchester hair-extensions saga Cutting It. "I am so thrilled," said Amanda, "because I know that everybody was against you." "Everybody was against you," she said, as if Susan might have been hanged for her presumption. Why? Can't "ugly" people dream, you flat-packed, hair-ironed, over-plucked monstrous fool?

I know what you will say. You will say that Paul Potts, the fat opera singer with the equally squashed face who won Britain's Got Talent in 2007, had just as hard a time at his first audition. I looked it up on YouTube. He did not. "I wasn't expecting that," said Simon to Paul. "Neither was I," said Amanda. "You have an incredible voice," said Piers. And that was it. No laughter, or invitations to paranoia, or mocking wolf-whistles, or smirking, or derision.

[omega minimo]

58. wow. thanks for posting that malaise

:wow:

[Pacifist Patriot]

35. I think part of it is timing as well as being a much needed social mirror.

Most of us could use some good news and a heartwarming story right about now. Yes, it's probably snowballed into a bigger story than anyone ever expected and much bigger than some people are comfortable with. But I'd sure rather have this saturating the airwaves than more meaningless drivel about marginally talented beautiful people. It doesn't mean we no longer care about the big issues, but sometimes we just need a mental break from debt, disease and death.

[omega minimo]

36. yes, we also need a mental break from corporations causing "debt, disease, death"

having a single wee person with a huge, heartfelt voice that resonates around the planet throw a wrench in the works of the star making machinery (thanks Joni Mitchell) that has smothered real life and real art for too long, the spectacle making machinery that is the delivery system for all the lies and cheats that corporate banksters use to suck us dry................... YES. We need that break.

:hi:

Rather than be cynical about this, Evoman might look at the cynicism of a system that controls and exploits human expression to oppress people.

[Evoman]

38. What can I say? I am a cynical person.

And I can't see how a woman trying out for a corporate show, who may or may not make a corporate record deal, is tearing down the system.

Something like this happens, people go a twitter, and next week Britney comes out with a new album. And the same people who are crying and making a fit about this excellent singer are the same people who will buy that album. It's all sensationalism. It's all emotional.

More of the same.

[omega minimo]

42. It sounds like her voice did not touch you the way it touched millions of others. That's fair.

IMHO that particular voice did shoot a hole through the human suits of the lizard people. :hi: FWIW.

[Evoman]

46. No, I thought it was quite touching.

But there is a difference between

"hmmm...that was nice. She has a good voice and seems nice. I hope good things happen to her"

and

"She flexed her voice and tore down the corporate elite with her angelic voice. Touched by god, she will reach out across the cosmos and lead a people out of corporate rule"


And one more thing: judging somebodies "soul" by their voice is no less superficial than judging them by their looks.

[omega minimo]

49. It sounds like her voice did not touch you the way it touched millions of others. That's fair.

So you're gonna be contrary about "it was quite touching" and then reaffirm that "her voice did not touch you the way it touched millions of others."

When I say, "That's fair" and otherwise in the thread acknowledge your opinion, are your comebacks really intended to have some sort of battle over it? :shrug:

And you need to restate and mock what you think my view is?

"She flexed her voice and tore down the corporate elite with her angelic voice. Touched by god, she will reach out across the cosmos and lead a people out of corporate rule"

Do you need a leader? You missed the whole point of this? The individual -- each of us -- has the power to defy corporate control of our lives. Some of us do it every day. As much as possible.



"And one more thing: judging somebodies "soul" by their voice is no less superficial than judging them by their looks."

Where did I judge her soul?

Where do you draw the line between your voice and who you are?

[Evoman]

53. How did it touch millions of others?

I guess your right, if by touching others your talking about something akin to religious transcendance. I didn't cry and thank god for her voice, so maybe your right that it didn't touch me like it touched millions (assuming of course that you know the thoughts of those millions based on some youtube comments and a high view count).

I also didn't mean to mock you...more like exaggerate to make my point. I apologize if you were offended.

"Do you need a leader? You missed the whole point of this? The individual -- each of us -- has the power to defy corporate control of our lives. Some of us do it every day. As much as possible."

No, I don't need a leader. I'm not a follower. That's basically why I risked the possible flaming for having an unpopular opinion, just to get my thoughts across. I also think there is a big difference between defying corporate control and thinking your defying corporate control.


"And one more thing: judging somebodies "soul" by their voice is no less superficial than judging them by their looks."

"Where did I judge her soul?"

This was more of a general comment, then one directed at you specifically. I just think it's ironic that people are telling us not to judge a book by it's cover, and in the next breath are telling us how beautiful this woman is because she can sing well. Being a good singer is equal parts practice and genetics. Same goes for looks.

"Where do you draw the line between your voice and who you are?"

I haven't given this much thought.

[omega minimo]

55. That would be an interesting OP.

"I also think there is a big difference between defying corporate control and thinking your defying corporate control. "

Lots of interest there, including an "if a tree falls in the forest" discussion about individual action. And your point well taken, which is why I added "as much as possible" above.

Jello Biafra keeps it simple: "Don't give them any more of your money than you have."

The "millions of people" I was referring to someone posted stats on video hits of Susan Boyle and they were coming from all over the world.

"I just think it's ironic that people are telling us not to judge a book by it's cover, and in the next breath are telling us how beautiful this woman is because she can sing well."

Some us see her as beautiful because she is, herself and her voice. When she sings, she's even more beautiful, when she smiles (like most folks) her beauty shines.

Like her voice resonating with some differently, not everyone will see her beauty either.

"Beauty is in the eye of the beholder." If you showed me a "beautiful" Barbie clone, I would lose interest if she just looked like all the other "beautiful" Barbie clones. That's not intriguing or beautiful to me, it's a costume.


"Where do you draw the line between your voice and who you are?" - - - - -"I haven't given this much thought."

Another interesting topic for discussion:

How much of "beauty" is external and how much is the animating force of the person?

Thanks for coming back

[Evoman]

56. If you showed me a "beautiful" Barbie clone, I would lose interest if she just looked like all the

other "beautiful" Barbie clones"

Lol...but what if the Barbie clone could sing reeealllly well. Or could have a deep discussion about philosophy. Losing interest over a person's facade is easy, I suppose. Trying to be non-judgemental on a meta-level....a lot harder.

Oh well.

[omega minimo]

57. here's the stats link. If you're trying to miss the point on purpose and intent on "winning"

you've lost my interest too. :thumbsdown: It's not the Barbie or beauty that's the issue, it's the CLONING.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=5467667

btw, your glee at having "caught me" is pathetic b/c I know what I said, I knew how it could be pounced on as you tried to and it makes you look like a fake, as it's the ONLY thing you selected from what might have continued to be interesting.

Oh well.

[Evoman]

59. There ARE NO CLONES when your talking about people.

That's my point. Everybody is different.

I was never trying to "get you", I was just making an observation. How the hell was I supposed to know you would take it so personally.

On edit: Where the heck did I express glee? I'm missing something.

[omega minimo]

61. you can "play gotcha" or you can "play dumb" but you can't play both at once

[Evoman]

62. Okay, this is getting ridiculous.

I think I'm done with this stupidity.

[omega minimo]

63. oh, that already happened.

[Evoman]

65. Yeah, and it didn't have to.

Later.

[omega minimo]

66. That's what I thought.

[Evoman]

67. What?

[omega minimo]

68. See you next time. My mind is always open.

[omega minimo]

79. "Trying to be non-judgemental on a meta-level....a lot harder. "

I apologize for testiness. So much food for thought and you chose one selection that may not have been meant snarky by you.

We all perceive differently. I'm not sure it is "a lot harder to be non-judgemental on a meta-level."

Isn't the meta perspective what makes a horde of people wearing Barbie costumes look like clones?

Isn't the meta perspective what makes people who are not conventionally aesthetic appear beautiful?


You've hit on some important points on the Susan Boyle phenomenon, both of which I missed before, too busy being self righteous, I guess. :blush: :spray:


Evoman 38. "Something like this happens, people go a twitter, and next week Britney comes out with a new album. And the same people who are crying and making a fit about this excellent singer are the same people who will buy that album. It's all sensationalism. It's all emotional."

It is emotional. Very. Raw, real emotion expressed through a human voice, out of a human body that held no currency for corporate media powers that be. She blew the roof off the place.

Do you really think it's the "same people" "making a fit" who will buy "Britney's new album"? What if it's a whole new thing? :think:



Evoman 59. There ARE NO CLONES when your talking about people. That's my point. Everybody is different.

Your point is well taken. However, when styles and lifestyles, mediated culture and human expression are packaged and commodified to the extreme they are now, it does induce a lot of clonish behavior, doesn't it? Including the crowd rolling their eyes and ready to sneer at the wee women on stage?


Instead of Barbie clones, I could have mentioned shaved head and baseball cap clones, which is another boring look when you've seen it a hundred brazillion times. It's a costume.


A woman with bushy eyebrows has hopped up and sent the message: "Don't hide your light under a bushel, or a plastic wig, or a baseball cap."

:hi: :yourock:

[Bobbie Jo]

32. Yes! K&R!

:kick:

[Beam Me Up]

34. I'll second your kick.

[Blue Diadem]

45. "This is the future"

A toast to the future and to your magnificent post.

:toast:

[omega minimo]

51. Bless you Blue Diadem. Nice to see you.

Now that we know the planet can wake itself up.........................

[Kind of Blue]

60. A pleasure to K&R!

This thread should continue for months and months. OM, your ability to see the whole picture and articulate it is real blessing - for me. Well done!

[omega minimo]

64. well thank you my dear Kind of Blue

"OM, your ability to see the whole picture and articulate it is real blessing - for me. Well done!"

That is highest praise. It's a curse and a blessing, ain't it?

It also is apparently a great way to put a target on and take pot shots from smart people who insist on acting stupid (using their smarts to topdog rather than engage). :shrug:

We each have to choose how we treat each other. I will continue to add to my watch list AND find new and old chums come out of the woodwork, including many supportive voices who apparently don't post very often ...... so their appearance is a privilege.

B/C of my POV, I will continue to say things that apparently baffle some but I am baffled at why that means they want to ATTACK IT.

Geez, and a middle aged virgin shakes her hips at Simon Scowl and blow the roof off the place.

I AM WOMAN, HEAR ME ROAR.

:rofl:

[Evoman]

70. Dammit, you could have kept the condescending comments in the proper subthread.

You didn't have to start a new one where the insults are harder to find.

:rofl:

[omega minimo]

71. one DUers "insults" are another's "self effacing admissions"

you wanna make it personal? okay. it does. it makes me "sad" or disappointed. the brain trust here that puts so much into puttin others down. rather than sharing their obvious gifts. to benefit all. for the purpose and promise DU provides. supposedly. I know it's the net. I know people have to pretend they have more balls than brains. even so. there it is. I ain't afraid of no "genius" who is going to use their knowledge to attack others. ever. (and that is not directed at you, evoman. it's an exagerration of people using their smarts ina stupid way and it's sad and a shame and a damn waste of time that we ain't got).

I learn the hard way, but I learn. And if I have to put a little cartoon next to something that seems obviously absurd to me, so be it. Thank you, evoman.

[Evoman]

72. Fine, this will be my last comment, and then I'm done. I'll be honest with you.

1) I really like Ms. Boyle's singing. A lot. She is very good.

2) I find you condescending as hell and it annoys me. Look me up, I'm not really into these pissing contests...I say my piece, and then I get lost. What I can't stand is self-righteousness, and on you, I detect it in spades. Don't get me wrong, I think you are a good person, but there is still a self-rightiousness that bothers me.

3) I have enough self-awareness to know that it's my problem that I let myself be provoked. I'm also aware that I am cynical, sarcastic, and prone to hyperbole to make points.

4)If you really have an open mind, consider this. I really had no intention of playing gotcha games. Really. I mean it. I'm not playing stupid. Everything that I said was earnest and every point I tried to make was a real one. If I "acted stupid", then it's because I AM stupid,and I just wasn't getting it.

5)I don't think you are as self-aware as you believe yourself to be. The fact that you let some comments slide, and others really bother you, may point to some insecurity. I don't know..I'm not you. That is for you to find out.

[omega minimo]

73. "What I can't stand is self-righteousness, and on you, I detect it in spades."

Unfortunately, what I have learned the hard way, is that I express myself in a way that gives DUers credit and credibility for taking clear words at face value and not (taking personally or) getting pissed off by something that was not intended as such. My mistake. One DUers "self righteousness" is another DUers confidence in others' reading/comprehension skills and confidence/patience/manners/adherence to DU Rules. My mistake.

[Evoman]

75. GAH...the irony of this statement.........

is that I express myself in a way that gives DUers credit and credibility for taking clear words at face value and not (taking personally or) getting pissed off by something that was not intended as such


That's what I've been trying to say when you told me I was "playing dumb".


Oh well, what about we sign a peace treaty and just agree that Susan Boyle is a good singer, but we enjoy her at different...ahem...levels.

[omega minimo]

76. indeed. let's do, eh?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x5467358#5474681

[Evoman]

77. That's rich...now your fucking knocking the fact I'm Canadian?!!!

Hehe...just kidding.

;)

[omega minimo]

78. NOW I'm intrigued

Bonehead :pals:

[Solomon]

87. Sigh. I really give you props Evoman for what you had to

go through with this nonsense. But I find it interesting to see that lost in all of this is how the posts craftily uses the emotion created by the Boyle sensation, to sell his knock on the administration.

Every one is praising the post because of Boyle thing, but the writer is feeling praise for his policy position.

[omega minimo]

88. another example of how presentation of reality is perceived as a "knock on the administration"

It's YOUR filter, bub, if all you get here is "policy position."

Evoman does not need your SIGH assist.

[Hanse]

69. virginal? hooker fashions?

Creeeeepyyyy.

[omega minimo]

74. Your reputation precedes you.

:thumbsdown:

[Echo In Light]

80. Reminds me of the spiritual message Bill Hicks used to close some of his sets with

[omega minimo]

81. I found his web site but don't know his work. Any suggestions?

:hi:

[smalll]

82. Lovely and appropriate sentiments. Considering however that you're one of those Indigo/Crystal Child

folks, if I remember right, it all comes across a little calculated and creepy.

[omega minimo]

83. Well you remember wrong b/c a few bullshit artists decided they knew what I meant better

than I did. Rather pathetic. I had no idea the insanity that could ensue from descriptive language and the name of a color.

I had no idea that the concept of human potential and development could be so threatening to individuals, as if they themselves are losing something or being diminished by expressions of our common humanity.....

I had some idea of how people will project and lump associations onto a poster even if it is not what the poster said, but have never seen it be so mindless and hateful.

What's really calculated and creepy is that vicious, venal and undemocratic agenda and the ego boost it gives the perpetrators.


So if you want to have an open mind and open conversation :toast:

and if you want to join the small minded "calculated and creepy" attackers :thumbsdown:

[smalll]

84. Well, that's actually a very nice response --

again, I think the sentiments in the OP are quite admirable, and I share in them in many ways -- I'd go with your worlds-bestriding optimism, but I'd come at it more through an End-Of-History via Buddhism kind of way. I just find the whole Indigo Children thing a little misguided. :toast:

[omega minimo]

85. Sounds interesting.......... thank you for your comments.

"more through an End-Of-History via Buddhism kind of way" Feel free to share it here. There is interest in common ground and topics that aren't mutually exclusive, although frequently treated as such.
:hi:

[omega minimo]

86. Susan Boyle

:toast:

[tabasco]

89. ZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzz z z z . . .. .

:boring:

It's gettin' old dude.

[omega minimo]

90. LOL

shall we SING you to sleep??

Nitey nite, dear tabasco........................ O8)

[Odin2005]

91. Geez, why haven't I run across this amazing thread until now? *KICK*

[omega minimo]

92. oh you...................... you have no idea...................

:hug:


best to you and your dear friend. :pals: --- No "vibes" unless welcome :scared: :yoiks::scared::spray:

[Odin2005]

93. Thank you!

(again and again and again) :hug:

Had a horrible nightmare last night. :cry:

[omega minimo]

94. Do you

write down dreams. During this time, might be worth looking back on what imagery you're getting. :pals: Also can help in processing on first writing, esp. if dream uses puns or other verbal cues in pictures.....

[Odin2005]

95. Thanks for the advice.

:hug:

Dreamed that I was tied up and forced to see my friend's rape. I woke up screaming so loud I woke up the neighbors and cried for a hour before I fell back asleep. :cry:

[omega minimo]

96. tied up.

she is, eh? Dreams speak to us in really plain terms that we picture and when repeated back to ourselves in words can provide "aha" moments (I know the sceptics condone those ;) )

In the readings I have done on dreams, one of the best is Robert Moss and he advises that one never try to interpret another's dream but offer "if that were my dream........."

I'm so sorry Odin2005 for all this.

Thank you for letting us help if we can.





Robert Moss is one -- like Roert Monroe who wrote Journeys Out Of The Body -- who is very interesting and credible b/c of how he came by and documented his experiences. For the "show me" set, these stories may suffice.

http://www.mossdreams.com/

Harriet Tubman info, I've posted on DU previously
http://www.merliannews.com/artman/publish/article_864.shtml

http://books.google.com/books?id=0OfdsmXbtZ4C&dq=reobert+moss&printsec=frontcover&source=bl&ots=pDwGdYfugM&sig=5J3dQr6uPQN5roeXQUvjWtSTPsI&hl=en&ei=K7XqSYC-O6OitgOHt4yyDg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1#PPP12,M1

[Odin2005]

97. Thank you!

the pain just hurts so much... :hug:

[omega minimo]

99. "if it were my dream"

that's why it woke you up. We are with you and her......... :grouphug: There are other resources here if you or she need recs to help her. :hi:

[Odin2005]

101. We are "all in this together", that for sure...

:grouphug:

[nonconformist]

98. Oh wow.

:freak:

[omega minimo]

100. Thank so very much

:applause: