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never cry wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 05:01 PM
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Susan Boyle sings - "Cry Me a River" Her first CD
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/2009/04/16/exclusive-susan-boyle-s-first-ever-song-release-revealed-listen-to-it-here-86908-21283564/

THE Daily Record has uncovered the only CD ever made by Scotland’s singing sensation Susan Boyle.

And you can listen to it EXCLUSIVELY on our player below.

It emerged last night that Susan, whose Britain’s Got Talent triumph has made her an instant superstar, is being lined up for an appearance
on the Oprah Winfrey show which would give her the chance of a number one album in the US.

But the Record can reveal she made her first recording back in 1999, when she sang blues ballad Cry Me A River for a charity CD.

Only 1000 copies of the disc were ever produced, but we’ve got hold of the long-forgotten recording and it’s now on our site. A showbiz insider said: “This is a real coup for the Record. The whole world would have wanted to find this.

“People will be scrambling to get their hands on this CD. They will be like gold dust soon.”

Audio at link....

It was not just a fluke...

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/2009/04/16/exclusive-susan-boyle-s-first-ever-song-release-revealed-listen-to-it-here-86908-21283564/
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 05:04 PM
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1. Julie London, cool!
(Joe Cocker, too)
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 05:44 PM
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30. Lovely...as Hissy said: Julie London...but where did she get the accompanyment for it?

Is some person who did the soundtrack going to come after her for using it for a Charity CD? I wondered the same thing about the professional soundtrack on her performance that's all over the internet.

What a lovely voice...I hope good things come to her and she isn't destroyed by what the media can do to people when they "FIND YOU" and the Public wants their ounce of flesh, too.

Go Susan!
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 07:19 PM
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49. That's probably a karaoke track.
If the charity didn't get permission to use the track, they could get sued, but the most they would owe, with legal fees, would probably be less than five hundred bucks.
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 09:13 AM
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75. That's when national notoriety has it's down side. Gotta know your copyright laws.
Another mistake amateurs make. And it can cost you. Big time.
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 07:21 PM
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51. The song was written for Ella Fitzgerald
and someone--the producer of the film it was written for?--said they had to change the lyrics because nobody would believe an African American saying the words, "told me love was too plebeian."
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 08:25 PM
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66. It was written for "Pete Kelly's Blues!" I had completely forgotten that.
Edited on Thu Apr-16-09 08:28 PM by Hissyspit
Ella never got to release a version until 1961. London's version showed up in the movie "The Girl Can't Help It."
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 05:05 PM
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2. oh very cool. nt
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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 05:05 PM
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3. wow, better than the one in the contest!
(of course, I'm not a great fan of songs from musicals)
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MedleyMisty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 05:06 PM
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4. I would freaking camp out to buy her CD.
Or go to a show.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-19-09 04:48 PM
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112. Same here!
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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 05:06 PM
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5. Bullshit.
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 05:11 PM
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8. Huh?
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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 05:16 PM
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13. It doesn't sound like her at all. It's somebody's idea of a joke.
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never cry wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 05:19 PM
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14. Did you read the article?
Does the Daily Record have a reputation like the National Enquirer? I am not familiar with them, sure seems legit though.

"It’s all a far cry from 1999, when Susan recorded her track for the charity compilation CD at Whitburn Academy, where X Factor winner Leon Jackson went to school.

The Millennium Celebration disc, which was partly funded by Whitburn Community Council, was the brainchild of local newspaper editor Eddie Anderson.

He launched a search for unsigned acts to take part. And as soon as he heard Susan at the auditions he knew he had found something special.

“I was amazed when she sang,” Eddie said. “It was probably the same reaction as everyone had last Saturday.

“Susan was exactly the same then as she is now. She has a fabulous and unique talent.”"
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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 05:35 PM
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24. I'll go listen again.
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MedleyMisty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 05:47 PM
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31. There is an Eddie Anderson who's 55
Edited on Thu Apr-16-09 06:03 PM by MedleyMisty
and his hometown is Livingston, where she said she trained on CBS this morning.

http://www.bebo.com/Profile.jsp?MemberId=1517569921

Also, I don't know if this is her specific church but apparently they floodlighted it to celebrate the millenium, which would seem to indicate that the area did have millenium events.

http://www.polkemmet.net/Whitburnsouthchurch/homepageforSouthChurch.html

And there is a Whitburn Community Council.

http://www.yourcommunitycouncil.co.uk/index.php?cn=whitburn

Oh, I just found this - did some more Eddie Anderson searching because the Miss West Lothian thing seemed - well, a bit off.

I got this.

http://www.eddieanderson.co.uk/

Which also looks sketchy. I don't know.

But then it seems that the Miss West Lothian thing is a big deal there.

http://www.westlothiancourier.co.uk/
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 05:32 PM
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23. She's just that good.
Susan totally adapted her vocal styling for each genre of music. This was a jazz-style love song, so she used an intimate, slow style. For the BGT show, she used the blockbuster Broadway style to bring down the house. What's the same is the talent & the incredible ability to interpret each song with such emotion.

I'm a fan!!
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 07:31 PM
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54. I really do think it is her for three reasons.
1. Women's voices change a bit over ten years.
2. Good singers alter their vocal quality depending upon the style of music.
3. Her a capella singing on the CBS morning show sounds more like this than the YouTube version everyone has seen.

I just listened to the CBS clip again followed immediately by this (listening to it as I type right now). It's definitely her. I have no doubt whatsoever.
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BlancheSplanchnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 10:26 AM
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88. oh please, can you post the CBS link?
I've been turned into a Susan fan! She's wonderful!
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 04:10 PM
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102. I stumbled on to it at a Huffington Post article. Go here.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/letty-cottin-pogrebin/why-susan-boyle-makes-us_b_187790.html

Scroll down and currently it's the third video in Related News. She's shown wearing a white jumper.
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BlancheSplanchnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 11:54 PM
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107. Thank You!!
:thumbsup:

:hi:
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 05:06 PM
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6. We are crying a river
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targetpractice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 05:11 PM
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7. Wow...
She can do silky and sexy, too.
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GoesTo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-19-09 04:46 PM
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111. The voice is the window to the soul
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 05:13 PM
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9. Doesn't that run a little contrary to the narrative?
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 05:27 PM
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18. isn't your running narrative a little contrary?
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 05:28 PM
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19. That's almost a complete thought.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 05:40 PM
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28. Too bad you only have one
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Control-Z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 07:52 PM
Response to Reply #18
59. I've noticed
a pattern with said poster. Unpleasant, to say the least.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 08:00 PM
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62. Deleted sub-thread
Sub-thread removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 10:56 PM
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68. Unpleasant and yet predictable. A schtick. Sad.
Edited on Thu Apr-16-09 10:56 PM by omega minimo
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 09:12 AM
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74. That's the only person I've ever put on ignore.
Guess i got the right one.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 05:13 PM
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10. Sure wasn't a fluke.
She sang as though she'd seen and felt that heart break...

Wow.

What. A. Voice.

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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 05:15 PM
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11. I don't get it...
First of all, it does not sound like her at all, the timber and range is quite different to my less than expert ears, and secondly, if it is her, and I repeat my skepticism, it was for a charity cd which is a good thing, right?
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 05:52 PM
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34. The recording is 10 years old, and her voice was 10 years younger.
She still has her range, but the timbre or whatever they call it is deeper, which happens with age.

It's the same woman. She has a phenomenal voice.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 06:17 PM
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39. Ahhh, okay, thanks!
I will eagerly await what comes next in this very heartwarming story!
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 07:14 PM
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47. Not only will a woman's voice change in ten years, but gifted and/or well-trained singers...
have the ability to adapt their vocal quality to the style of music. My mom trained as an opera singer. She sang soprano in her 20s, but now in her early 60s is somewhere between a second soprano and an alto. I remember her voice transitioning over those four decades. She also sounds like a completely different person when she is singing a hymn, opera, show tunes, torch songs, etc. It wouldn't surprise me at all if this is legitimate.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 07:16 PM
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48. Thank you! I didn't take into consideration the years between the CD recording and...
her recent performance. What you are saying makes eminent sense.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 09:29 AM
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77. I bet the clips of Pat Benatar singing opera
are on the internet. Hit me with your best aria...
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-19-09 04:50 PM
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113. Well Pat was trained as an opera singer.
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 07:21 PM
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50. That's her.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 07:25 PM
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52. I went back and listened again after reading the two response posts to me and...
this time, taking the 10 years into account, I believe it is too. I am in awe of the woman's gift.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 05:16 PM
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12. OK, that's impressive
Show tunes are something you belt out.

Blues requires some nuance and she's got it.

It needs a little work, but for a church choir singer who did karaoke in the pub on the weekend, she's amazing.

It's commercial just the way it is. With a little work, she could really have something.
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ljm2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 05:22 PM
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15. Wow, that was a wonderful rendition!
I hope she does it for one of the future shows.

She can belt out a show tune, she can caress a sexy torch song. Wow! She's gonna have a dynamite CD on her hands, that's a fact! I'll buy it without hesitation!

And to all you naysayers -- ha ha, she's soon gonna be worth more than any of us here on DU. Good on ya, Susan!
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 05:26 PM
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16. Thanks for posting!
I'm just stunned by her voice & her range. How many people can do Broadway & blues so well?
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 05:30 PM
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21. Few - one who comes to mind is Christine Ebersole, who really never received enough spotlight
Edited on Thu Apr-16-09 05:38 PM by blm
for her wide range of talents, imo. Rosie O'Donnell tapped Ebersole for her first post 9-11 show. Christine sang an incredibly haunting version of Lullaby of Broadway.

It was also Christine Ebersole who first sang the song Single Women on an early 80s SNL skit. Dolly Parton's husband caught it and Dolly recorded it soon after, it became the most played jukebox song for that year (83?) - would have been an even bigger hit except shortly after the release of the song, Dolly became ill for many months and stayed off the road for some time. The song still spawned a TV movie starring a young Christine Lahti.
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 05:37 PM
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25. Apparantly Susan will!
Edited on Thu Apr-16-09 06:00 PM by Marie26
As a wanna-be singer myself, I'm just in awe. It's not just the voice, but her phrasing, breathing, & intonation are just spot on.

ETA: And I hadn't heard of Christine Ebersole, but I'll make sure to listen to her as well.
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timtom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 05:26 PM
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17. An even greater performance than her TV contest spot
(though, not nearly as emotionally stirring).
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mecherosegarden Donating Member (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 05:30 PM
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20. What a voice! N/T
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 05:31 PM
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22. A charity CD to boot
Go Susan! You can sing!!!
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 05:38 PM
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26. Truly awe inspiring!
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 05:38 PM
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27. I do a better Cry me a river any night of the week...
Sorry, but there are alot of great singers in the world. This is not about her voice. It's just the ridiculous show that tries to humiliate contestants.

Real singers don't appear on crap shows like this.
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 05:49 PM
Response to Reply #27
33. you are so humble and gracious
about singing better than her, it's inspiring. ;)
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 06:03 PM
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36. Why don't you put up a video?
Or just an audio.

Judge not lest ye be...

Well, whatever.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 09:34 AM
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78. .
:thumbsup:
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ellie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 06:11 PM
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37. Yes, please
I would love to hear you sing.
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 06:34 PM
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42. Me too. However, she won't even put up a profile -
so I sincerely doubt she will put up a video or audio.

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Control-Z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 08:15 PM
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65. I didn't know you could
actually hide your entire profile. I've never seen anyone do that.

I guess it's pretty easy for a Chicken-ass to come on a message board and spew bad will.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 06:11 PM
Response to Reply #27
38. Sorry to burst your balloon and shove those sour grapes down your throat, but
Susan Boyle has a great voice. Perhaps you are a bit jealous?

I consider these types of shows ridiculous, but appearing on them does not automatically make one a talentless hack.
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 06:26 PM
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41. Posts like yours are exactly why I hate message boards
I read your subject, and now all that's in my head is "grapes - I should go downstairs and grab some grapes."
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TheBigotBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 06:25 PM
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40. Absolute rubbish.
I guess real singers do not try whatever it takes to get discovered; real singers do not want money; real singers do not want to go in front of an audience?

To many a show like this represents an opportunity that a demo tape / cd could never provide. That is why it is successful- although I do appreciate at the early stages they are nothing but a freak show - however that i swhat the music industry has to put up with on a daily basis Simon Cowell just repackaged it and stuck it on tv.
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 06:47 PM
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43. Jealous much? nt
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 08:58 AM
Response to Reply #43
69. real musicians wouldn't be caught dead on that ridiculous show.
The entire thing is for wannabe's.

And talent like hers and mine can be found all over the world. It's not that tough. There are high school kids everywhere who can sing like she can.

Go to your local community theater and anywhere that people do Kareoke- It's pretty common if you shut off the TV and go be in the real world with real people.

That entire show is an abomination.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 10:00 AM
Response to Reply #69
85. jealousy is an ugly thing.
it's nice to see you stewing in it...:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Mrs. Overall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 10:40 AM
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90. Real singers wouldn't be caught dead on an anonymous message board bragging about their voice--
You do realize you are on a political message board hiding behind a made up name claiming that you can sing "Cry Me A River" better than Susan Boyle or any other singer who may have had their start on TV?

Now that's what I call pathetic...and rather humorous.
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 04:47 PM
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104. Whatever
I guess Susan Boyle should've kept singing in total obscurity at the village pub to satisfy you. But now she's an international sensation w/a big record deal. Oh, well.
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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 12:46 AM
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110. agree jazzjunkysue
My Dad was Vegas orchestra leader for 50 yrs.. saw so many brilliant singers come to house shaking it's foundation..brilliant singers but never had the proper representation and ended up as secretaries or lounge acts. Very sad...and the stars today are woefully untalented but marketed.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 06:53 PM
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44. There are few really great singers but many who think they can sing when they can't!
Its always great to see talent emerge to change someone's life and bring a smile to peoples faces
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 07:32 PM
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55. Yes, there are a lot of great singers in the world.
Lots of real singers don't get the chance to appear on any stage. Lots of real singers who do manage to have a performing career will never get the chance to make a living from it, which Boyle may be able to do specifically because she appeared on that crap show.



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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 09:03 AM
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70. I agree with you, but she'll have to continue to be the subject of public humiliation
which I don't think she deserves.

If she gets any lucrative work, it will be short lived and quickly forgotten. I'd like to be wrong, but, that's show biz.

Most people think someone is a "good singer" if they're thin, beautiful, and can dance well.

Celine Dion makes me gag. This woman is 3 times the singer Celine Dion is, but Boyle doesn't have "the look."

Bette Midler is a champion, but he status is always just under the national radar because she's bawdy, intelligent, and real. I adore Bette Midler, and she's still performing in her 60's.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 10:24 AM
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87. If she listened to your advice, Bette Midler would still be performing in the Baths
Edited on Fri Apr-17-09 10:25 AM by OmmmSweetOmmm
and a very select few would ever have gotten to know what a great talent she is.

Meanwhile, are you aware that she has a long standing show in Vegas now? The horrors!
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 12:34 PM
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99. Bette Midler made it the real way; Gradually building into bigger and
bigger venues. That's how real musicians become famous. Not by going on humiliating TV contests.

She's earned every penny. Nothing was given to her.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 02:23 PM
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101. The real way? There are no "real" ways. With her drive, back in the late 60s,if given
Edited on Fri Apr-17-09 03:15 PM by OmmmSweetOmmm
the chance to appear on tv, she would have jumped at it.

As it was, her rise in fame wasn't too slow of a build up.

A year after she came to NY, she landed a part in Fiddler On The Roof on Broadway, playing one of Tevye and Goldie's daughters for 3 years. Ah yes, the obscurity of Broadway.....

After that gig, and after playing a year in the Baths, with Barry Manilow (I can't even begin to think what you're opinion of him is), she had 2 albums in two years. Barry produced the first. I used to listen to them a lot.

I remember her appearing a few times on The Tonight Show, omg tv...I just checked and her first appearance was in 1973! Don't you think that helped her career??? Big T Big V. If you recall, Bette appeared (and won an Emmy)on the last Tonight Show with Johnny Carson. It was an homage to him and the national exposure he gave her.

She was also in the original production of Tommy by The Who and then landed The Rose(my first date with my ex).

At the same time The Rose was a huge hit, I saw her Broadway Show, and a couple of years later saw her in concert with a new version of her revue. But by that time she was part of the lexicon.

Yes, she made it but not the way you want to think she made it. She made it with chutzpah and hard work, yes, but with a little help from others (Johnny Carson, Barry Manilow) along the way.


On edit...I just checked something kind of cool. I saw Fiddler with my family during her stint and must have seen her play Tzeitel. :)

And the magic of the Internet...Midler on The Tonight Show -1973

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eV91lFBA8As



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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 12:25 AM
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108. my brother toured with Bette for 3 yrs and made movie with her
sbe has earned everything she has. Have great respect for Carson...he flew to Vegas several times a week to catch my Dad's show. Most decent man and terrific respect for musicians. Bette's show in Vegas now is the best have ever seen....actually sang song laying on the floor as exhausted. Only gripe about her is her paranoia about employees' drug use. LOL..bet she has them all tested now.
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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 12:27 AM
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109. DITTO! n/t
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 07:40 PM
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56. Out of curiosity, what is a fake singer?
Either someone is singing or they aren't. :shrug:
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 09:05 AM
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71. If you try to start your singing career on a TV show, you're fake.
If you sing in local venues and become a known musician at home, with regular work, off TV, you're real. If you think all you need is a microphone and a nice TV studio and a TV show, you're fake.
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mainegreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 09:37 AM
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79. Delusional. It's like people who declared modern art to be fake.
If you do it, and make money off it then your real.



Mamby-pamby whining won't change that.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 10:02 AM
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86. aaahhh...
so is all the money she's going to be making with HER voice 'fake' as well?

your extremely thinly-veiled envy of this woman is quite amusing. :rofl:
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 11:14 AM
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92. Where does all of this snobbery come from?
Edited on Fri Apr-17-09 11:14 AM by Lorien
If you think that there's only one legitimate path to success in the singing world then you have proven to everyone here that know nothing about the subject.

BTW-Ms. Boyle sang at local venues for most of her life.
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Lisa0825 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 11:29 AM
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96. Hmmm.... definitely sour grapes.
I understand the frustration in working hard in the local music scene and not getting discovered, and watching someone else get a lucky break. But that doesn't have anything to do with her level of talent. If you didn't link the two things together, I might think you really are only judging her talent, but since you directly correlate her talent to not having to work as hard as you (supposedly) have, then you're just plain bitter.

Your logic is seriously flawed.
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Control-Z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 07:58 PM
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60. I have found that
when it comes to singing, it's the braggarts who really don't sing all that well. And I hear a lot of live singers. My husband is in the business. So go ahead, put up a recording and show us what hot shit you are. I'm waiting.
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 09:08 AM
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72. It would be a complete waste of time, because this kind of talent is so common.
I have a real musical career that doesn't rely on TV gimmmicks. And I don't need your approval or national notoriety. I don't even want it.

At least you go hear local talent. I applaud you for that.

I'm always complimented when I step out and perform, but that doesn't mean I should put myself on national TV.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 09:43 AM
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80. Sorry, but I'm in 'the biz'
and this kind of talent is not 'so common'. The fact of the matter is that finding talent is a difficult and time consuming chore. Hundreds audition for major roles, the producers spend days and weeks looking for the right stuff.
Singing is a really great talent to have, because one can so easily prove one's talents by merely singing. Those who sputter excuses about why they can not let you hear how great they are are never any good. Talent can not help but share itself. Mediocrity can not help but cower.
What is sad to me is your classism. Showbiz is a hard nut to crack. There is no dignified road to sucess. Many talented people who lack connections and money use those shows as the only avenue they can find to seek career movement.
A touring revival show just played my city. Both of the advertized stars-performers making a living-got started on Idol or somesuch show. That is how they got work.
An amature can afford to fantasize about being 'discovered at Schawbs' or in some musty club. But serious talent will always seek to move forward by any means. They need to feed the kids and pay the rent.
Anything a preformer does to get a leg up is just part of that life. Performing is never a bad thing for a performer. The only folks I've known who 'did not want' sucess and yet criticize those who have a bit, have been folks who tried and failed or were too craven to even give it a shot.
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mamalone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 09:58 AM
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84. wow.. if you weren't on the other side of the internet...
I'd kiss you:loveya:



I only wish it were possible to nominate a reply!
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 11:17 AM
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93. Well said!
:thumbsup:
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 01:13 PM
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100. Here's why a trained, professional musician won't subject themselves to this show:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x5476251

It will only end badly. Because it's not about music or talent. This show is about objectifying people, either positively or negatively. Mostly negatively.
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 09:18 AM
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76. Then put up or shut up...
as the saying goes.

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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 09:48 AM
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82. Too bad, so sad
Maybe someone will hear you and like it some day.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 05:42 PM
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29. Deleted...wrong space...
Edited on Thu Apr-16-09 05:43 PM by KoKo
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Extend a Hand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 05:48 PM
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32. That was beautiful. n/t
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 05:54 PM
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35. K&R - simply beautiful!!!
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Joey Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 06:55 PM
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45. I think she's great! nt
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 07:04 PM
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46. That. Was. Awesome. nt
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NoodleyAppendage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 07:31 PM
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53. Damn it! I just got over bawling my eyes out with her contest song...now this! AMAZING!
I'm buying an iPod download of whatever album this woman produces.

With this single person, she has redeemed the whole American/British Idol bullshit. I used to think it was mindless and without merit, but if these shows allow for truly unsung talents like Susan Boyle to shine through, then I'm cool with it.

J
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 07:48 PM
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57. Why wasn't this woman "discovered" earlier?
Why did she spend almost a decade as an unknown talent, devoting her life to her ailing mother with nothing but a meager salary as a charity worker?

I just listened to the song. She's got more talent than half the stars making $millions selling their mediocre offerings.

The arrangement sounded as lush as a James Bond soundtrack and her voice was no disappointment.

She SHOULD have the privilege of being the next Shirley Bassey.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 11:29 AM
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95. She sang in her church choir and at a local pub
but I guess the right person wasn't there listening at the right time. I'm glad that she took the initiative to get herself out there since success wasn't coming to her on it's own!
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mamalone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 11:42 AM
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98. Nobody really cared.
I asked the very same question.. and my daughter simply said, "You know nobody really cared enough."

I think she's absolutely right... there she was: an "odd" little woman who liked to sing. Sure she sounded good, but her ordinariness got in the way of people seeing how very extraordinary she really is.

I am so pathetic... I've watched this video dozens of times and still end up in a puddle before I'm halfway through.
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 04:51 PM
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106. She's Eleanor Rigby
Edited on Fri Apr-17-09 04:51 PM by Marie26
Except this song has a happy ending. Who can't become emotional about that?
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 07:52 PM
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58. Any song that works the word plebian into the lyrics
Is cool by me:)

This lady is awesome!
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Control-Z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 08:04 PM
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63. Good point! n/t
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Blue Diadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 07:59 PM
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61. Thank you for posting this ncw! WOW just WOW!
She has enormous talent! I could listen to her sing all day. Beautiful, just beautiful.

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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 08:05 PM
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64. Sorry. Kathleen Ferrier she ain't.
Nasal, and amplified. Let her sing Mahler's Kindertotenlieder without amplification, and then judge her singing.
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 09:09 AM
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73. Agreed. This is all hype. She's not bad, but she's no phenomenon.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 09:51 AM
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83. Still awaiting your fantastic singing....
please share with us your wonderous voice! Why so hesitant to share?
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 09:48 AM
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81. Why?
She's not that kind of singer. She's West End style. Let the unamplified Mahler singer sing 'Piece of My Heart' with a full blues band and I'll judge that.
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 04:50 PM
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105. Unfair comparison
Susan Boyle isn't an opera singer, & shouldn't be judged by that standard. Comparing her rendition of this song to that of other popular singers, IMO her version is as good if not *better*.
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 08:38 PM
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67. Just posted the YouTube video of Susan singing Cry Me A River at ....
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x297926

I'm getting an video error message at the newspaper video link.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 11:26 AM
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94. That's a beautiful rendition
Edited on Fri Apr-17-09 11:26 AM by Lorien
I just compared it to an Ella Fitzgerald version.Both are great, but the latter had a smokier, more practiced quality to it, while Boyle's was more-velvety?-and soulful. She's got a great career ahead of her!
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Lisa0825 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 11:36 AM
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97. THANK YOU!!!! I have been wanting to listen, but getting the error too!nt
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BlancheSplanchnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 10:37 AM
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89. Holy Toledo!! What a voice!!
WOW!!

I'm not really a torch song fan, and showtunes aren't my thing either, but huge talent IS my thing. God, I love this woman!

Ha, forgive me, I'm getting giddy..but I just love her lack of glitz. I loved her goofy humor on BGT-- I could see how she's developed that as a response to a life of being bullied. Love her poise in spite of all that. (love her Scottish accent too. Isn't it funny how often you can't hear the accent when Brits/Scots/Irish, an' awll tha', sing American styled songs?)
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 11:08 AM
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91. Wow.
That's amazing.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 04:40 PM
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103. What an amazing track! I'd buy her CD in a heartbeat. nt
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