To hell with the Democrats who had the power to impeach Bush and didn't do it...

[rateyes]

Bastards. With the release of the torture memos today, we have PROOF that the Bush administration is guilty of FUCKING WAR CRIMES. An impeachment hearing would have brought that to light. Bush could NOT have claimed executive privilege over it because it would have been evidence in an IMPEACHMENT HEARING. If he hadn't turned over the memo, he could be impeached for that action in and of itself.

But, NOOOOOOOOOOOO, "it wasn't the right time." "We didn't have the votes." (Well, if the investigation had started, and this had come out, we WOULD have gotten the votes).

It only leads me to the conclusion that Nancy Pelosi and others in Congress were COMPLICIT. THEY KNEW, and they APPROVED. And, they were covering their own asses.

And, it seems that right now, President Obama (who I voted for, and I like, but he gets criticism for this, and if I'm wrong I'll publicly apologize) is trying to cover up those war crimes.

That torture was done in MY name, and in YOUR name. And, NOT PROSECUTING it is a crime. WHAT THE HELL HAS HAPPENED TO OUR COUNTRY??

Fuck you, Nancy Pelosi. Fuck you, John Conyers. Fuck every damned Republican in Congress, and everyone who looked the other way (and continue to look the other way.)

Excuse me now, I have to :puke:

[rateyes]

1. We've become a banana republic.

[MsLeopard]

32. Yep, a banana republic

with nukes.

[seemslikeadream]

2. I understand

[femrap]

36. Too funny....'serfs up.'

I've been singing 'Serfing, USA.':evilgrin:

[Autumn]

3. " WHAT THE HELL HAS HAPPENED TO OUR COUNTRY??"

We lost it after our Democrats got the majority and decided "impeachment is off the table." But you are right THEY KNEW and they APPROVED of it.

[Initech]

4. The fact that they looked the other way still pisses me off.

We had the chance and didnt take it. This could come back to bite us in the ass as Neil and Jeb Bush could still be contenders in 2012. Of course I hope the American people are not stupid enough to continue the Bush oligarchy but I'm not ruling anything out.

The simple fact of the matter is though - We NEED to make sure these fuckers never achieve power again as long as they're around. Period. End of story.

[rateyes]

5. I think that every one of the members of Congress knew about these crimes

and only a handful had the courage to speak up. My DINO Congressman, Jim Marshall said that he thought laws might have been broken but it wasn't the time, during war, to investigate...that we had to support the "commander-in-chief," who turned out to be the "war-criminal-in-chief."

I'm so pissed off right now, I'll probably have a damned stroke.

[Initech]

23. I hate the Bush administration with every micro-fiber of my being.

[arcadian]

15. They will. And it will be worse.

Nobody ever learns.

[Initech]

22. Yup. I think we've only seen the beginning.

[Echo In Light]

30. To "learn" would be to admit the obvious. Too many inducements for not learning

None of em any damn good

[Supersedeas]

6. Just consider the Democrats that openly supported the Bybee nomination to the Federal Bench

[rateyes]

7. Thanks for reminding me. My blood pressure just shot up 10 points.

Why the HELL didn't Leahy stop that confirmation?? :banghead:

ARRRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH :mad:

[Hubert Flottz]

10. That judge needs to be impeached and put in jail.

[rateyes]

16. And, so do the Senators who voted to confirm him. nt

[Hubert Flottz]

18. Do you have a list of their names?

[rateyes]

26. We could find out. I'll look tomorrow. Going to bed. nt

[Hubert Flottz]

28. Bingo...

Assistant Attorney General Jay Bybee Confirmed as Ninth Circuit Judge



By KENNETH OFGANG, Staff Writer/Appellate Courts



Snip...

Barbara Boxer and Dianne Feinstein, voted against the nomination.

The other 17 no votes were cast by Democrats Robert Byrd of West Virginia, Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York, Jon Corzine and Frank Lautenberg of New Jersey, Mark Dayton of Minnesota, Richard Durbin of Illinois, Russ Feingold of Wisconsin, Tom Harkin of Iowa, Daniel Inouye of Hawaii, Edward Kennedy of Massachusetts, Carl Levin and Debbie Stabenow of Michigan, Barbara Mikulski and Paul Sarbanes of Maryland, Patty Murray of Washington, Jack Reed of Rhode Island, and Ron Wyden of Oregon. MORE...

http://www.supremelaw.org/rsrc/commissions/bybee.jay/Assistant%20Attorney%20General%20Jay%20Bybee%20Confirmed%20as%20Ninth%20Circuit%20Judge.htm

I see that one of my senators, Jay Rockefeller voted to confirm the worm.

[Supersedeas]

29. None other than Senator Harry Reid was pushing and pushing for confirmation

See:

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2003/feb/10/more-questions-delay-bybees-confirmation/

[Hubert Flottz]

31. Harry is a dandy!

DAMN!

[karynnj]

34. Here's the list

Grouped By Vote Position
YEAs ---74
Akaka (D-HI)
Alexander (R-TN)
Allard (R-CO)
Allen (R-VA)
Baucus (D-MT)
Bayh (D-IN)
Bennett (R-UT)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Bond (R-MO)
Breaux (D-LA)
Brownback (R-KS)
Bunning (R-KY)
Burns (R-MT)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Carper (D-DE)
Chafee (R-RI)
Chambliss (R-GA)
Cochran (R-MS)
Coleman (R-MN)
Collins (R-ME)
Conrad (D-ND)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Craig (R-ID)
Crapo (R-ID)
Daschle (D-SD)
DeWine (R-OH)
Dodd (D-CT)
Dole (R-NC)
Domenici (R-NM)
Dorgan (D-ND)
Ensign (R-NV)
Enzi (R-WY)
Fitzgerald (R-IL)
Frist (R-TN)
Graham (D-FL)
Graham (R-SC)
Grassley (R-IA)
Gregg (R-NH)
Hagel (R-NE)
Hatch (R-UT)
Hollings (D-SC)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Jeffords (I-VT)
Johnson (D-SD)
Kohl (D-WI)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Leahy (D-VT)
Lieberman (D-CT)
Lincoln (D-AR)
Lott (R-MS)
Lugar (R-IN)
McCain (R-AZ)
Miller (D-GA)
Murkowski (R-AK)
Nelson (D-FL)
Nelson (D-NE)
Nickles (R-OK)
Pryor (D-AR)
Reid (D-NV)
Roberts (R-KS)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Santorum (R-PA)
Schumer (D-NY)
Sessions (R-AL)
Shelby (R-AL)
Smith (R-OR)
Snowe (R-ME)
Specter (R-PA)
Stevens (R-AK)
Sununu (R-NH)
Talent (R-MO)
Thomas (R-WY)
Voinovich (R-OH)
Warner (R-VA)
NAYs ---19
Boxer (D-CA)
Byrd (D-WV)
Clinton (D-NY)
Corzine (D-NJ)
Dayton (D-MN)
Durbin (D-IL)
Feingold (D-WI)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Harkin (D-IA)
Inouye (D-HI)
Kennedy (D-MA)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Levin (D-MI)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Murray (D-WA)
Reed (D-RI)
Sarbanes (D-MD)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Wyden (D-OR)

Not Voting - 7
Biden (D-DE)
Campbell (R-CO)
Edwards (D-NC)
Hutchison (R-TX)
Kerry (D-MA) (my comment - he had cancer surgery a few weeks earlier and was likely stil recovering)
Kyl (R-AZ)
McConnell (R-KY)

However, it is ridiculous to blame all these Senators because of something he had not yet done. Notice that Leahy, the ranking member on the Judiciary committee voted for him.

[Hubert Flottz]

8. We tried to tell Nancy...

I can't/won't vote for anyone again, that turns a blind eye to this. Obama offers the same defense for these CIA goons that the NAZIS offered to cover their asses at Nuremberg(just following orders) Those same NAZIS ended up hanging for their crimes.

[rateyes]

11. Makes me ashamed to be an American. nt

[rateyes]

14. I literally called her and told her to do her damned job or resign.

Pissin' in the wind.

[derby378]

9. I think what's happened is that our nation has lost its collective will

After eight years of tyranny and oppression, too many Americans have become soft and compliant, averse to confrontation, and all too willing to sweep injustices under the rug in the same of some kum-ba-yah idealism.

On the other hand, you have all of these ridiculous teabaggers and all of their outrage - they'll protest helping out people with their mortgages, but not war crimes and illegal wars.

[rateyes]

13. War is peace. Down is up.

War crimes are peacemaking. It's one fucked up country, isn't it?

[Mnemosyne]

12. ...

:puke:

[bdamomma]

17. if they (Dems or Repigs) think we are going to roll over on this one

they can forget it, yes, these crimes were done in all of our names, maybe we (and Congress) were all wiretapped by the bush regime, criminals to the highest degree. I want to see Dick get his so bad, he has been the force behind all miserable 8 years of hell, he put his plan into action a very long time ago, and justice must be done to him. Very frustrating.

[PufPuf23]

19. Excuses and deflections

The apologists are getting tiresome.

I want a decent country not a military empire.

Nothing works anymore.

Those that have act feel entitled.

[bdamomma]

20. PETITION from ACLU

https://secure.aclu.org/site/SPageServer?pagename=Nat_Petition_SpecialProsecutor&s_src=UNW090001ACT&s_subsrc=homepage&JServSessionIdr009=yunb0p16j2.app23a

[rateyes]

25. Thanks. Will do right now. nt

[Hydra]

21. The Dems in Congress were just doing their jobs

They serve moneyed interests...and that doesn't include most of us here.

I'm most disappointed in all of the people here who argued that it wasn't important to hold ourselves accountable for torture and all of the other things going on...and most especially, the people who claimed "a deeper game of strategy was being played"

Ya, it was so "deep" that you found yourself in the deep end when our leaders told you to "jump."

[rateyes]

24. I hear that. nt

[Rocknrule]

27. And yet the Republicans are sputtering that Obama should be impeached

for not showing his birth certificate, "spending too much money" (on the American people instead of on war), jaywalking, forgetting to wash his hands with soap and water, having political views to the left of Hitler, not brushing his teeth twice a day, being a Democrat, Presidenting While Black, etc.

[omega minimo]

43. Yes let's not impeach Reagan/Bush or Bush/Cheney; let Repuke TOOLS use it as THEIR tool for BJs & BS

:evilfrown: :sarcasm:

[karynnj]

33. Only if almost all in the House agreed could they impeach

and the Senate would very likely not have voted to remove.

[femrap]

35. k and r

You have no idea how many letters I sent to Pelosi and ALL of the Dems on the Judiciary Committee!!! I wrote until my hand hurt. I wanted them to PHYSICALLY see how I felt about getting those 2 fucking criminals impeached. They weren't going to just hit a button and voila the emails are gone.

Of course Shooter had his own assassination squads and he could have been threatening 'accidents' to family members.

But when they didn't write up articles of Impeachment, I knew it was over. And it remains over. During the election, I knew Obama was not what he appeared.

This isn't the first time Obama has gone against his promises...all we'll get is bones tossed our way. The Banksters own him....just look at all of our money given to them. See their profits today?

WASF.

[leftstreet]

37. The Dry Powder Brigade has put Obama in a horrible position

Fuck 'em

[ChelseaCenior]

38. I agree

I am almost ashamed to call myself American. So many people say that other countries hate us because of our freedom, the fact is they hate us, (and by us I mean our government, etc.) because we stick our proverbial nose where it doesn't belong and create irreparable chaos, and then say it was their own damn fault for not being us to begin with! There are many other countries in the world with the same rights as we have, they just do not do what we do.

[rateyes]

40. welcome to DU.

[bigwillq]

41. Hello.

Welcome to DU! :hi:

[earth mom]

39. I've been saying that the dems in Washington have been complicit for a long time.

It is more important to them to play politics than uphold the law or do the job the people elected them to do.

Obama has a law degree and is a Constitutional scholar, right?

That Obama is doing nothing should speak volumes to everyone.

:grr:

[omega minimo]

42. yup -- although Conyers tried to do what he could. Pelosi be damned.