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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 08:11 AM
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I'm calling for legal and medical organizations and boards to strip any doctor or lawyer of their
credentials who wer involved in setting up and overseeing this system of torture under the * administration. Any professional participating in this whole debacle has violated the oaths and ethics of those professions.
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 08:14 AM
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1. They do what they are paid to do. I don't think other doctors or lawyers are going to strip
Edited on Fri Apr-17-09 08:15 AM by RB TexLa
them of anything for doing something they received money for.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 08:17 AM
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2. Should th4ese doctors or attorneys have been working for a health care center
Edited on Fri Apr-17-09 08:18 AM by Skidmore
or private institution, they would be imprisoned, disbarred/stripped of credentials &/or licenses to practice for such acts whether or not they were being paid for them. They wer not passive in this but were in decisionmaking roles determining how and who carried out these acts.
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 08:20 AM
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3. Maybe if they hadn't financially supported whatever cause the disciplinary committee members
have set up. But if they had donated money or time to their organizations or charities it would be doubtful.
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salguine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 08:33 AM
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6. A contract killer—a hit man—does what he's paid to do, too.
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 08:35 AM
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7. And you aren't going to see a board of other hitmen do anything to them for doing that.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 08:55 AM
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9. So it's the money that makes it ok? If they did it for free then could they be held accountable for
their actions. What they did is not acceptable in a decent society. They were to tell their superiors to go to hell when told to commit atrocities.
Their is no acceptable rationalization or justification for this behavior. They should go to prison.
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 08:56 AM
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11. I made no mention of anything being right or wrong.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 10:55 AM
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20. Why not? Maybe I misread your post. Looked to me like you were trying
to justify the behavior of doctors and lawyers because "they were doing what they were paid to do". If I misunderstood, I apologize.
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 11:11 AM
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21. I was saying boards of doctors or lawyers are not going to do anything to other
doctors or lawyers for doing something that makes money.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 12:41 PM
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22. Got it. My error. nm
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 08:23 AM
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4. K&R
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90-percent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 08:23 AM
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5. dont be so freekin' mean!
THEY WERE JUST FOLLOWING ORDERS!

Welcome to the new and improved USA!

-90% Jimmy
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 08:42 AM
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8. The lawyers are probably up for judgeships.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 08:55 AM
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10. They should go to prison. nm
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 09:30 AM
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16. Agree but if that doesn't happen they should not be allowed to practice
these professions.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 09:00 AM
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12. The Honorable Jay Bybee, Not So Honorable
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/joseph-a-palermo/the-honorable-jay-bybee-n_b_167845.html

"Californians should be outraged that the disgraced lawyer, Jay Bybee, sits as a judge on the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit. The Ninth Circuit rules on just about every piece of environmental protection law affecting the air, water, and land of the state of California. Bybee's fingerprints are all over the infamous Justice Department memos that redefined torture for the sole purpose of allowing the Bush Administration to commit war crimes with a patina of legal legitimacy. We have a new Attorney General now and there is more than enough evidence from the Justice Department's own Office of Professional Responsibility to bring charges of unprofessional conduct and disciplinary action. The American Bar Association has a responsibility to take up the issue. The ABA doesn't have to wait for any ruling "under review" from the Justice Department...


...It is far too important to allow a potential war criminal, with all the baggage that label carries, to continue to serve as an upholder of the law for our state. George W. Bush appointed Jay Bybee to the federal bench as a reward for his legal services in the name of enabling torture and it is the duty of the new administration to put this disgraceful chapter behind us. The first step must be to remove Judge Jay Bybee either through impeachment or disbarment, or both."






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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 09:19 AM
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14. Disbarment doesn't remove a judge

There's no requirement that a judge have a law license.
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 11:12 PM
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25. How about a prison term? Will that do it?
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 09:04 AM
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13. Its not clear they have the power to do to so effectively
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 09:19 AM
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15. I agre Skidmore- the professional associations have done so for
moral and ethical reasons that don't rise to the level of some of this shit.

NO ONE can MAKE you do something that violates what you know to be right. What was that Thoreau said, something about the fact that 'when governments encourage injustice then prison is the right place for a 'just' man?'

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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 09:46 AM
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17. The ACLU believes they should be prosecuted as War Criminals.
They have sent a letter calling for the appointment of a Special Prosecutor to investigate and prosecute anyone, including civilians who were involved in torture at any level.

http://www.aclu.org/safefree/torture/39054res20090317.html

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jtrockville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 10:01 AM
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18. I agree with the ACLU. I signed the petition.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 10:03 AM
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19. Yep, disbar Bybee
Fucker sits on a Federal Bench, for god's sake!
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 11:03 PM
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23. K & R
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 11:06 PM
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24. I want Judge Bybee impeached.
How the hell can he hold a license, let alone sit on the appellate bench after advising others to violated the U.S. Code, our constitution and international law?

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