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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 09:59 PM Original message |
Poll question: What is the biggest problem in public education? |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 10:02 PM Response to Original message |
1. Administrators |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 01:44 AM Response to Reply #1 |
37. That was my exact thought when I saw the subject line of the OP. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 10:20 AM Response to Reply #1 |
67. Stupid administrators |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 10:04 PM Response to Original message |
2. 3 decades of Reaganism |
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LearnedHand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 10:05 PM Response to Original message |
3. The way subjects are fractured from Jr High on |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 04:12 AM Response to Reply #3 |
44. I'll add to that and say teachers who are trained in one subject alone |
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DefenseLawyer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 10:06 PM Response to Original message |
4. Consolidation? |
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polysciguy420 (78 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 10:07 PM Response to Original message |
5. well... |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 09:56 PM Response to Reply #5 |
90. So public education is just a farm team for colleges? |
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dem629 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 10:07 PM Response to Original message |
6. Bad lunches not enough math run-on sentences. |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 10:11 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. B-b-but, twitter just started! How can U blame it!? n/t |
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dem629 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 10:13 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. OMG, like...Tweet! Kthxbye and FTS. |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 10:07 PM Response to Original message |
7. Other: The fact that Americans basically despise learning.. |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 10:59 PM Response to Reply #7 |
22. it's hard to get past that cultural mindset no matter the resources. nt |
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Starbucks Anarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 11:48 PM Response to Reply #7 |
27. Yep. |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 11:53 PM Response to Reply #7 |
28. You can't blame it on culture. |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 12:51 AM Response to Reply #28 |
34. Schools have kids for 180 days/year, 8 hrs/day.. |
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Johonny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 01:53 AM Response to Reply #7 |
38. I disagree |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 02:42 AM Response to Reply #38 |
42. My brother's wife is an RN and far from stupid.. |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 05:04 AM Response to Reply #38 |
49. Hmm. |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 07:39 AM Response to Reply #38 |
59. "Americans they seem to "know" a lot ...' |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 09:39 PM Response to Reply #7 |
88. You beat me to it |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 10:07 PM Response to Original message |
8. Combination: teachers, parents, government. (In no particular order.) |
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etherealtruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 11:52 AM Response to Reply #8 |
78. Agreed ....but, I'd throw in |
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Political Tiger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 10:13 PM Response to Original message |
11. Uninvolved/bad parents. n/t |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 10:14 PM Response to Original message |
12. Everything starts in the home, then systems/administrators, teachers, low/lax standards, sports |
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Catshrink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 10:25 PM Response to Original message |
13. Politicians who know nothing about teaching enacting laws telling |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 10:22 AM Response to Reply #13 |
69. Bingo! |
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all.of.me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 10:27 PM Response to Original message |
14. Low pay for teachers. nt |
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polysciguy420 (78 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 10:37 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. good |
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all.of.me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 10:43 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. and raising our children...... |
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jamesbolton (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 11:47 PM Response to Reply #14 |
25. You're insane if you think the pay is too low! |
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Stellabella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 12:04 AM Response to Reply #25 |
30. You're insane if you think the pay is too high. |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 05:46 AM Response to Reply #25 |
52. Welcome to DU! |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 07:22 AM Response to Reply #25 |
55. Either your wife isn't doing her job right, |
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jamesbolton (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 08:53 PM Response to Reply #55 |
86. Did you even read my post? |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 06:43 AM Response to Reply #86 |
94. So upon further consideration, you're going with the bullshit option, OK, gotcha |
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jamesbolton (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 11:11 PM Response to Reply #94 |
96. You're just completely clueless |
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all.of.me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 10:18 AM Response to Reply #25 |
65. When teachers are eligible for food stamps, the pay is too high?!? nt |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 10:25 AM Response to Reply #25 |
71. "Teachers shouldn't make twice what experienced engineers do." |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 10:26 AM Response to Reply #25 |
72. Did you run this by your wife before posting? |
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Fireweed247 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 12:54 PM Response to Reply #25 |
80. "happy teachers are so overpaid" |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 02:53 PM Response to Reply #25 |
85. . |
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adamuu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 07:30 AM Response to Reply #14 |
56. +1 n/t |
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etherealtruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 01:13 PM Response to Reply #14 |
82. Teacher's pay is equitable to other similarly educated professionals |
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lutefisk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 01:06 AM Response to Reply #82 |
93. That "study" is very misleading |
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etherealtruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 05:55 PM Response to Reply #93 |
95. Really |
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AndyTiedye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 10:43 PM Response to Original message |
17. Proposition 13 |
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ChimpersMcSmirkers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 10:49 PM Response to Original message |
18. Other: School Board politics and administrative bloat |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 10:55 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. That's a good one. Would you mind expanding on it a bit? n/t |
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ChimpersMcSmirkers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 11:46 AM Response to Reply #20 |
77. Well, in general I think that school systems are top heavy. |
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tosh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 02:05 AM Response to Reply #18 |
39. Second that. |
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nonconformist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 10:51 PM Response to Original message |
19. I think it depends on the district. |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 10:58 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. "parents that don't care" Could it be that they're also working several jobs? |
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Telly Savalas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 08:00 AM Response to Reply #21 |
63. Perhaps |
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notesdev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 11:44 PM Response to Original message |
23. All the vested interests up and down the line |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 11:45 PM Response to Original message |
24. Not enough discipline and structure. nt |
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RadicalTexan (607 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 11:48 PM Response to Original message |
26. Other: grooming children for their future as cogs in the corporate machine |
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Stellabella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 12:03 AM Response to Original message |
29. The person who selected 'bad teachers' should be thoroughly ashamed. |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 04:55 AM Response to Reply #29 |
48. That just means we still have freepers hiding amongst us. n/t |
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Stellabella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 09:53 AM Response to Reply #48 |
64. Yep. Sigh. |
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RC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 12:09 AM Response to Original message |
31. Subjects are taught in a vacuum. |
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Smarmie Doofus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 12:12 AM Response to Original message |
32. Bureaucracy and paperwork. |
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asdjrocky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 12:14 AM Response to Original message |
33. Other- |
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Sen. Walter Sobchak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 12:57 AM Response to Original message |
35. forcing public schools to be prisons waiting room |
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SPedigrees (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 01:41 AM Response to Original message |
36. Lack of a prescribed curriculum |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 02:34 PM Response to Reply #36 |
84. Have you heard of the dictionary of Cultural Literacy? |
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Johonny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 02:17 AM Response to Original message |
40. I'll throw out this idea |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 04:36 AM Response to Reply #40 |
45. Graduating with a crushing debt burden is part of it |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 04:54 AM Response to Reply #45 |
47. I think you've touched on something very important here. |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 05:43 AM Response to Reply #45 |
51. $200/semester, back in a day when the wages being doled out could afford the costs! |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 04:46 AM Response to Reply #40 |
46. ? |
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Johonny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 11:22 AM Response to Reply #46 |
76. I mean the cultural values shifted as the relative value of |
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The2ndWheel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 02:35 AM Response to Original message |
41. The burdens of the parent/child relationship |
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buzzycrumbhunger (793 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 03:03 AM Response to Original message |
43. I'd start with "no child left behind" |
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roody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 10:33 AM Response to Reply #43 |
74. The testing is ruining education. |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 05:41 AM Response to Original message |
50. If profits are the prime motivation, then we have lost our way as a culture. |
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w8liftinglady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 05:56 AM Response to Original message |
53. teaching to standardized tests... |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 06:01 AM Response to Original message |
54. Parents |
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ebbie15644 (97 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 07:33 AM Response to Original message |
57. parent involvement |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 07:36 AM Response to Original message |
58. 1.parents. 2.parents. 3.parents. 4.parents... |
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Mr. Hyde (314 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 07:41 AM Response to Original message |
60. Ever occur to anyone that US students might be the problem with US schools? |
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ejpoeta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 07:48 AM Response to Original message |
61. i think the basic problem is the way school is thought of. it's not an investment |
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ThomWV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 07:50 AM Response to Original message |
62. Seems to me the quesiton has 2 problems |
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scrinmaster (563 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 10:20 AM Response to Original message |
66. Parents that don't care. |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 10:21 AM Response to Original message |
68. Local funding through property taxes. |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 10:24 AM Response to Original message |
70. FCAT ...it jukes the system. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 10:33 AM Response to Original message |
73. Funding |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 11:13 AM Response to Original message |
75. Proven methods of the past |
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Fireweed247 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 12:35 PM Response to Original message |
79. TV |
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Fireweed247 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 01:00 PM Response to Reply #79 |
81. this is all by design |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 01:58 PM Response to Original message |
83. Other: |
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Coffee and Cake (140 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 09:08 PM Response to Original message |
87. We strive towards mediocrity |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 09:53 PM Response to Original message |
89. It starts with intent and/or methods |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 10:02 PM Response to Original message |
91. thinking Learning should be fun or rewarded in a material way |
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92. Catering to the lowest common denominator... |
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