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Edited on Sun Apr-19-09 09:55 AM by Democracyinkind
My take on the present case:
Using the word "global currency" for what the BIS or IMF plans, is a bit misleading. As I've heard so far, the proposal was pretty much along the lines of what the Chinese proposed too, earlier. I haven't read the whole article, I might, but whenever someone cites "tragedy and hope" I get suspicious... It is probably the most misunderstood book ever, and most of the people quoting it surely have never read it. I am pretty open to conspiracy stuff, legit or BS, T&H does strike me as an essential book, but one should consider the facts mentioned in the books and not the outrageous claims made by Quigley (you know, the whole "central bankers" are all cozy w/ each other) ... Of course there is truth in that, but it's not the whole truth, a hallmark of bogus conspiracy stuff.
My take on the BIS:
Pretty fucking disturbing, I know, especially when you go back to the Hjalmar Schacht / Montagu Norman days in the 30/40's. Yeah they were an elite that made decisions that shaped the world, and they didn't ask for permission. Yeah, they changed history, yes, they propped up the third Reich, yeah, they facilitated the American infusion of funds into the German RW. But they didn't follow a master plan. Old Henry sold and built motors for the Nazis, old Walker funneled money to the Nazis with his friends at UBC, Tom Watson sold and supplied them the technology to kill off the jews... Convincing me that they are all part of a shadowy elite, under central command, will take much since other explanations (greed, will to power, realpolitik, ideology) do a job way superior.
As for the famous
" nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent private meetings and conferences."
-claim, I and many others who have actually read the book believe that the substance of this network has been misinterpreted. "This network" consists, in my and some of my colleagues opinion, primarily in "The pilgrims society" and the offshoots that can be traced to it. The Pilgrims however are no Skull and bones, they are a social network of the American Establishment. Such networks are better described by materialist historians - f.e. applying Veblen's leisure class theory or others - than they can ever be by conspiracy theorists. They lack centralization of agenda, which does not mean that they don't have one. Qugley's "network" is not(simply) some hidden league meeting in a back room (though that can be an aspect of it), it's all about the predominant force of the establishment and how their interconnections and inter lockings enable them to usurp the means of production and the means of force (authority of definition and monopoly of power).
My two cents. You can walk into the "Tower of Basel", flirt with the secretaries. They're not protected my Mossad agents or killer monkeys, as so many believe. Yes, it is a center of establishment power in a sense, or of governmental power, but it is not a secret club of "the hidden rulers" - it is an institution driven by the predominant consensus of the worlds elite.
Hervé Kempf - How the rich are destroying the earth C. Quigley - The Anglo-American Establishment / Tragedy and hope David Rothkopf - Superclass
As for Web of Debt, also mentioned, I haven't made my mind upon that one yet - gotta read it a second time. It's hard to not get confused by this subject. " The creature from Jekyll Island " would be an example of distorting history by applying the wrong mechanism of descrpition (conspirational vs. materialist) - or simple disinfo brought to you by the ghost of John Birch. Let's give G. Edward Griffin the benefit of the doubt though, in that case he has simply misunderstood Quigleys book and pretty much cherry-picked his story together.
mail me for a rational discussion of Quigley's work or the history of the BIS, I know I totally went off topic. sorry for that. Interesting post. rec!
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