Outrage: Torture vs Steroids/Baseball

[The Unknown Derelict]

Why was there more outrage over steroids & baseball as compared to the 'torture memos'?

[Bluebear]

1. Our President has said it is the time for reflection, not retribution.

Certainly an independent counsel should be appointed, but there doesn't seem to be any appetite for it from the Executive branch.

[originalpckelly]

2. "Our President has said it is the time for reflection, not retribution."

"Certainly an independent counsel should be appointed, but there doesn't seem to be any appetite from (sic) it from the Executive branch."

:rofl:

[Bluebear]

3. What's so funny?

[originalpckelly]

6. The reason I'm laughing was not your insignificant typo.

I'm not a fuck up vulture. :P It's cool.

I personally think Obama should smoke 420 tomorrow, then he might get the munchies and get the "appetite" to prosecute.

What a pompous ass he is to think he can lecture this country on anything after he so much as thought about not prosecuting these people for war crimes.

If he doesn't prosecute these people for torture, then he no longer has enough credibility to tell us what socks to wear.

Torture is it. That's it, that's all she wrote. Notta, zip, zilch. Not gonna happen. Not anymore. The game is up. It's over. If these people can get away with torture, they can get away anything. If this President can ignore torture, then he's capable of anything.

That's what the OP is getting at. That's what all these posts on DU are getting at. Why is it there is so little outrage over the most outrageous thing that can be done to a person, perhaps only rivaled by death?

This whole country is fucked.

[Bluebear]

7. It's cool...

I fixed the typo anyhow. And it's nada, not notta lol!!

I would recommend your post a thousand times if I could. That people think it's cool just as long as it's a Democrat in power is repulsive.

And now the OP has been watered down to mostly a steroids topic. What to do? :)

[originalpckelly]

20. It's the old Lex Rex v. Rex Lex debate.

And unfortunately, if we have to rely on the goodness of a politician's heart to protect us, then it's Rex Lex.

[The Unknown Derelict]

15. That's exactly what I was getting at.

That's exactly my point. Very good originalpckelly!

"Why is it there is so little outrage over the most outrageous thing that can be done to a person, perhaps only rivaled by death?"

Shame on Rush Limbaugh and his "Club Gitmo" shirts, and for saying torture is harmless fraternity pranks.

[originalpckelly]

21. I know, I'm becoming more ashamed every day to be an America.

:-(

It's very depressing to know we live in a high class banana republic.

[noamnety]

17. but but but

sure he's soft on torture, but remember how stern he was about not letting kids eat popeye's chicken for breakfast?

[Skittles]

14. I had to read that twice to make sure that was really what I was reading

:rofl:

[The Unknown Derelict]

4. Another observation...

...the usual cast of characters is making all sorts of excuses for torture.

From my point of view, it seems the torture apologists think that a bunch of jocks cheating in a ball game is more heinous than despicable acts of torture as described in the torture memos.

Steroids and torture both disgust me and should NOT be tolerated, but my message to the apologists is let's see some consistency in their school of thought for a change.

A special prosecutor must be appointed to look into the torture.

[paulsby]

5. who gives a flying fuck

if baseball players use steroids?

it makes the game more exciting. and the only reason congress even HAS jurisdiction is the monopolistic exception for major league baseball.

[The Unknown Derelict]

8. Reread the OP

Actually baseball players who don't use steroids care. But this topic isn't about that.

Please reread the OP and use some critical thinking skills.

[paulsby]

10. i did

the last poster said he thought it was disgusting.

personally, i think it's fine

[The Unknown Derelict]

12. Are you drunk?

...I'm confused, you think the previous post was just a 'baseball/steroids' issue?

Reread it again, lol.

[paulsby]

13. i'm not drunk

just high on life.

i was just saying i don't think bball and steroids are bad. i agree that torture IS bad. but that's obvious. or should be

[The Unknown Derelict]

16. Please read...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x5492655#5492865">Post #6 by originalpckelly

[uppityperson]

22. Please read...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=5492655&mesg_id=5493194

Because trivial topics are handleable, while huge ones are too much to deal with?

[valerief]

9. That's what the media puppetmasters wanted.

Hell, there was more media noise over Natalee Holloway than war protest coverage.

[Gregorian]

11. Or Schiavo?

And the can't give us the "well they were terrorists" bullshit. Many of them were innocent. And I"m sure someone can come up with an even better context.

[The Unknown Derelict]

18. Oh yeah, Frist's video diagnosis of Shiavo...

....wow what grandstanding.

I didn't see the compassionate conservatives pull up a preachin' (with Jesus on a trailer hitch) when John Yoo was spouting his immoral and outrageous legal theories such as:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt1-eWU2Ii0



WWJT? (Who would Jesus torture?)

[Gregorian]

23. Wow, the video responses on that Youtube are outrageous!

Judging from what I've just read there, I would bet it's safe to extrapolate that this country is outraged beyond anything we've hear in the press.

We did horrific things to people.

[RufusTFirefly]

19. Mistakes were made. Time to move on.

Sheesh. It's only torture. A college prank.

Besides, those little kids should know better.

:sarcasm:

[Lerkfish]

24. although I understand you point, I wish to point out that the ONLY people

concerned with steriod abuse was congress while trying to distract from other more important issues.
I never got the impression that the general population gave a crap.

[The Unknown Derelict]

27. Nobody did care...

I know I didn't. Heck I don't even watch baseball. I do have an opinion on it though if asked.

[ninety lives]

25. Because America likes to shame itself

Americans would rather feel self-righteous about something they are addicted to than do something as embarrassing as read
about their government.

It is embarrassing to our country, that people make a living here and think more about sports than government.

[The Unknown Derelict]

26. DU is a smart crowd!

That's exactly my point! Good one ninety lives!

The steroid scandal isn't the issue of this thread, but rather that people care about sports (or any other non-issue...Shiavo, Holloway, baseball/steroids, etc) more than our government.

[flvegan]

28. Complicity.

Seems to be a disease sweeping through Congress.