Time for Reflection

[Solly Mack]

Well, reflect on this




Manadel al-Jamadi, whose body had been stored by CIA personnel (after they beat him to death) overnight in a shower room at Abu Ghraib

"Other government agencies"

[The Straight Story]

1. It is only a crime when you or I do it

When politicians do bad things, it is best to look forward and move on.

[Solly Mack]

6. Amazing isn't?

We're just citizens. If we don't obey the law "our way of life" will be harmed. Whereas my government and its agents can torture with impunity and "our way of life" is preserved.

[valerief]

2. One murder makes a villain, millions a hero. Numbers sanctify, my good fellow.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

3. It's time to reflect ...

on the evil that some people do.

This makes me weep.

K&R

[Solly Mack]

7. Me too, CaliforniaPeggy

:(

[Orwellian_Ghost]

4. K&R

[spanone]

5. knr

the torture may have happend in the past, but we will pay the consequences for years.....how many future terrorists have we created???

[slipslidingaway]

8. Looks as if noboby was held responsible...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manadel_al-Jamadi

"On May 28, 2005, Navy SEAL Lieutenant Andrew Ledford, the commanding officer of the platoon of SEALs that were accused of inflicting the fatal beating, was acquitted of all responsibility for al-Jamadi's death.

Ledford had been charged with assault, dereliction of duty, conduct unbecoming an officer and making false statements.

Eight members of Ledford's platoon received administrative punishment for abuse of al-Jamadi and other prisoners.

According to an article on the Court TV website: "Another lieutenant received a career-killing punitive letter of reprimand following a hearing before the Navy's top SEAL."

Mark Swanner, the CIA interrogator, has faced no charges. In August 2007, Thomas Pappas, the most senior officer present during the interrogation and time of death, was granted immunity in return for his testimony at the court martial of his subordinate Lieutenant Colonel Steven L. Jordan."



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_L._Jordan#Court_Martial

"Steven L. Jordan

On January 8, 2008 Jordan's conviction and sentence were wiped clean by Major General Richard J. Rowe, commanding general of the Military District of Washington. Rowe did issue Jordan an administrative reprimand questioning Jordan's decision to disobey Fay's order. Rowe's action means that Jordan will have no record of a criminal conviction and will continue to serve as an active-duty officer at Fort Belvoir until his retirement. <13>"

[Solly Mack]

10. Ain't it grand?

Pappas did lose some pay

Poor thing

[EFerrari]

9. What do you have against "dedicated men and women"?

:sarcasm:

[Solly Mack]

11. I know, I know. I don't know what got into me.

[ProgressIn2008]

12. K&R for a hard truth. nt

[glitch]

13. Perhaps his first reflection should be on the difference between retribution and JUSTICE. nt

[Solly Mack]

15. Justice...what a concept.

[bvar22]

14. But they tortured in "Good Faith",

and they had a note from their lawyer, so its All Good!
Time to move on.

[Solly Mack]

16. and the dog ate my homework

The checks in the mail

You're going to feel a little sting

[chill_wind]

17. Mistakes were made.

Shit happens. It was all in good faith, but just for kicks, we took out extra legal insurance policies.

And DESTROYED the TAPES.

[Solly Mack]

20. The lies people are willing to swallow to remain in their comfort zone

because sadly, some people have chosen to accept the lies.

[seemslikeadream]

18. Peggy Noonan said that we need mystery

[Solly Mack]

21. I saw that! She really meant that people should remain ignorant

At least I think that's what she was really saying

[seemslikeadream]

22. What an elitist pig she is and so is Kooky Cokie

[Solly Mack]

23. Yes! Just so happy the tapes were destroyed!

[seemslikeadream]

25. Oh yes thank God those tapes were destroyed

What a bitch

[puebloknot]

19. "Reflection, not angry retribution": Thus sayeth Rahm Emanuel.

He's carrying water for every unconstitutional act the last administration engaged in, and offering an apologia for their continuance under Obama.

Ersatz morality, ersatz integrity, ersatz attention to the constitutional review Obama spoke of. (I won't say "promised" because it would be pointed out that I'm hallucinating and Obama never really said that.)

[Solly Mack]

24. It is disheartening

and that's putting it mildly

[leftstreet]

26. 'The guy just died on us.'

That article is chilling.

A very sad K&R

:cry:

[pleah]

27. K&R Words fail me.

:cry:

[Soylent Brice]

28. KICK AND RECOMMEND.